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ADB has played in 51 games already?

Wow. I remember a lot of poeple saying his hard nosed style combined with his smallish frame was going to mean a short career. He seems to be doing just fine thus far.

btw, great thread. Wish I had more hands so I could give it 4 thumbs up.

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Happy":21o8uhkd said:
ADB has played in 51 games already?

Wow. I remember a lot of poeple saying his hard nosed style combined with his smallish frame was going to mean a short career. He seems to be doing just fine thus far.

btw, great thread. Wish I had more hands so I could give it 4 thumbs up.

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It helps that Angry Doug has played in 5 playoff games.
 

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#89
FirstLastCollegePosYearsGamesStarts
AlvisDarbyFloridaTE197610
DukeFergersonSan Diego StateWR1977-1979338
MarkMcGrathMontana StateWR1980-198160
ByronWalkerCitadelWR1982-1986633
JimLaughtonSan Diego StateTE198760
BobWilliamsPenn StateTE198700
BrianBladesMiamiWR1988-1998157120
ItulaMiliBringham YoungTE1997-200611744
JerhemeUrbanTrinityWR2003-2005112
BooneStutzTexas A&MLS200780
JohnCarlsonNotre DameTE2008-20114938
DougBaldwinStanfordWR2011-20135118

Now that we're out of the 90s we finally go back all the way to the beginning -- 1976. That first year roster was a mish-mash of expansion draftees, draft picks, and castoff from other teams. The start of the season rosters were at 49 players but after two weeks it pared down to 45. Alvis Darby was a 6th round pick who played in the first game in team history, but was waived on the cut to 45.

If you remember the early Seahawks, the #89 that more likely comes to mind is Duke Fergerson. Fergerson was a speedster whom the Seahawks gave up a 2nd round pick in a trade with Dallas, but his career never lived up to his potential and he was cut during the '79 season.

Byron Walker was a solid WR target for Dave Krieg during the good teams of the mid-80s.

Itula Mili wore #49 when he was drafted in 1997 but switched to #89 in 2000 just as he was established as the starting TE. For whatever reason he switched to #89 mid-way through 2003 until his career faded to an end in 2006. I put him at #89 for this list but really I just wish he would have made a choice and stayed with it!

When I was doing this list I was shocked that Boone Stutz was here 8 games. Don't let anyone tell you Long Snapper isn't a vital position!

Our current #89 is the brilliant Doug Baldwin, who started his career as #15 but switched to #89 in deference to the almighty Matt Flynn. Baldwin will probably be very pissed off if I don't name him the greatest #89 in team history and yet I feel compelled to withhold this honor so that he may continue his Seahawk career with one more giant boulder on his shoulder. I suspect if he stays with us a few more years I may have to relent.

Until then, the MVP at #89 goes to one of my all time favorite Seahawks:

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If you never saw Brian Blades play let me say he would have fit in very nicely with our 2013 Seahawks. The man defined toughness and competitiveness. Watching Baldwin today I wouldn't say they are the same player, but I will say the #89 today brings back a lot of great memories of the #89 back then. How Brian Blades is not in the Seahawks ring of honor is a mystery to me.

What do you remember of some of the great #89 receivers in Seahawk history?


Brian Blades is easily one of my favorite Seahawks of all-time. He and Tez were very bright spots in an otherwise very dark period for the Hawks. Though he was eventually exonerated, I think the shooting incident with his cousin is the reason Brian will never see the Ring of Honor. If not for that incident, I think his credentials would've gotten him there already.
 

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Blades had big shoes to fill and though he was doomed to fall short of his predecessor he still put together a sold career. I would say ADB needs 2-3 more seasons playing at his current level to edge out BB as our best #89.
 
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#88
FirstLastCollegePosYearsGamesStarts
DonClunePennWR197691
BrianPeetsPacificTE1978-19802514
PeteMetzalaarsWabashTE1982-19843916
ByronFranklinAuburnWR1985-1987331
JohnSpagnolaYaleTE1988174
WillieBouyerMichigan StateWR1989-199010
JeffChadwickGrand Valley StWR1989-1991390
DavidDanielsPenn StateWR1991-1992291
TerrenceWarrenHamptonWR1993-1994160
RickyProehlWake ForestWR1995-1996247
DeemsMayNorth CarolinaTE1997-1999480
JamesWilliamsMarshallWR2000-2002294
MarcusPollardBradleyTE20071612
JebPutzierBoise StateTE200861
CameronMorrahCaliforniaTE2009-2012287

What a long, mostly unspectacular list. When you think about the NFL #88 sure seems like a glamorous list. Lynn Swann! Michael Irvin! Deems May! What we really have is a lot of guys, many of whom were decent in short stretches, none of whom was around long.

The starting WRs in the first ever Seahawks game were Steve Raible and Don Clune, an expansion draft pick from the Giants. Those two combined for one catch for 6 yards, meanwhile a couple of backups named Largent and McCullum combined for 9 catches, 198 yards and 2 TDs. I'll let you guess who the starting WRs were in week two.

Pete Metzalaars was traded for Byron Franklin. Metzalaars went on to have a nice career in Buffalo. Franklin went on to have a typical Seahawks #88 career.

David Daniels and Terrence Warren were both fast receivers drafted by Tom Flores to try to develop the Raiders stretch offense.

Deems May was one of those TEs who would catch a pass every month. He kind of epitomized the idea of the 3rd TE being as a designated blocker, an idea we still seems to hold onto.

The most recent #88 was Cameron Morrah, who really showed some promise until he missed the 2012 season with a mangled knee. At last report he's still trying to work his way back into the NFL.

Finding my MVP at #88 was tough, but Jeff Chadwick did manage 57 catches for 828 yards and 7 TDs in 3 years. This is currently 47th place on the all-time Seahawks receiving yards list. Franklin is 53rd. Morrah is 94th. May is 152nd. Don't take my word for it: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/t ... eiving.htm

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Brian Blades is totally the right call, but i hope Doug Baldwin replaces him...

Yep. And my guess is he does just that in a few years. With stats that eclipse Cris Carter's at the same point in their careers, that's a whole lot of potential to do just that.

Stay angry, Doug! Stay angry!
 

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Hawkstorian":1allnayd said:
#89
FirstLastCollegePosYearsGamesStarts
AlvisDarbyFloridaTE197610
DukeFergersonSan Diego StateWR1977-1979338
MarkMcGrathMontana StateWR1980-198160
ByronWalkerCitadelWR1982-1986633
JimLaughtonSan Diego StateTE198760
BobWilliamsPenn StateTE198700
BrianBladesMiamiWR1988-1998157120
ItulaMiliBringham YoungTE1997-200611744
JerhemeUrbanTrinityWR2003-2005112
BooneStutzTexas A&MLS200780
JohnCarlsonNotre DameTE2008-20114938
DougBaldwinStanfordWR2011-20135118

Now that we're out of the 90s we finally go back all the way to the beginning -- 1976. That first year roster was a mish-mash of expansion draftees, draft picks, and castoff from other teams. The start of the season rosters were at 49 players but after two weeks it pared down to 45. Alvis Darby was a 6th round pick who played in the first game in team history, but was waived on the cut to 45.

If you remember the early Seahawks, the #89 that more likely comes to mind is Duke Fergerson. Fergerson was a speedster whom the Seahawks gave up a 2nd round pick in a trade with Dallas, but his career never lived up to his potential and he was cut during the '79 season.

Byron Walker was a solid WR target for Dave Krieg during the good teams of the mid-80s.

Itula Mili wore #49 when he was drafted in 1997 but switched to #89 in 2000 just as he was established as the starting TE. For whatever reason he switched to #89 mid-way through 2003 until his career faded to an end in 2006. I put him at #89 for this list but really I just wish he would have made a choice and stayed with it!

When I was doing this list I was shocked that Boone Stutz was here 8 games. Don't let anyone tell you Long Snapper isn't a vital position!

Our current #89 is the brilliant Doug Baldwin, who started his career as #15 but switched to #89 in deference to the almighty Matt Flynn. Baldwin will probably be very pissed off if I don't name him the greatest #89 in team history and yet I feel compelled to withhold this honor so that he may continue his Seahawk career with one more giant boulder on his shoulder. I suspect if he stays with us a few more years I may have to relent.

Until then, the MVP at #89 goes to one of my all time favorite Seahawks:

100823blades250.jpg


If you never saw Brian Blades play let me say he would have fit in very nicely with our 2013 Seahawks. The man defined toughness and competitiveness. Watching Baldwin today I wouldn't say they are the same player, but I will say the #89 today brings back a lot of great memories of the #89 back then. How Brian Blades is not in the Seahawks ring of honor is a mystery to me.

What do you remember of some of the great #89 receivers in Seahawk history?

How many years did Mili wear #89? Forgot he wore that #. He wore 88 and 49 as well
 
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Regarding Itula Mili

He wore #49 from 1997 - 1999 but he only played 24 games in those three years. He was on IR his entire rookie season (The Therald Simon plan).

He switched to #89 to start 2000 and kept that until through the first 3 games of 2003 for a total of 51 games, and I consider those the most productive years of his career.

He was #88 for the rest of his career which ended in 2006. He played 42 games at that number.

So I put him at #89 for this list, even though he had some decent years at #88 and ended his career there. Mili is the all-time receiving yards leader for a TE with 1743, ahead of Stevens, Fauria, Carlson, Tice and Miller. Miller would need two full seasons like his last two in order to catch Mili.
 

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Pete Metzellars has my vote. BTW, can we vote or is Hawkstorian the undisputed dictator of this thread? It might be fun when all is said and done to take some of the disputed number MVPs and have a .net vote.
 
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Doing polls would be nice but I can't do them within the thread, only at the top of the thread.

When I'm all done, I'll do a re-cap with my choices and also the feedback I received on other players. I'm in the minority on Patrick Kerney vs. Rufus Porter!
 
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#87
FirstLastCollegePosYearsGamesStarts
RonHowardSeattleTE1976-19784236
RogerCarrLouisiana TechWR198292
CharleYoungSouthern CalTE1983-19855048
WilburStrozierGeorgiaTE1987133
RobertTylerSouth Carolina St.TE198999
PaulGreenSouthern CalTE1992-19943523
CarlesterCrumplerEast CarolinaTE1994-19986731
DerrickMayesNotre DameWR1999-20003023
RussellStewartStanfordTE200110
KevinKasperIowaWR200230
TacoWallaceKansas StateWR2003-200440
JoeJureviciusPenn StateWR20051913
BenObomanuAuburnWR2006-20127014
KellenDavisMichigan StateTE2013175

The idea to convert a college basketball star to TE didn't begin with Antonio Gates. In 1974 Dallas signed Ron Howard out of Seattle University. Howard never played college football but developed into an NFL TE and was selected by the Seahawks in the 1976 expansion draft. He went on to play 3 seasons and was the leading receiver on the team not named Largent or McCullum.

Joe Jurevicius had perhaps the greatest "One Year Wonder" season in team history. I predicted he would be cut during the 2005 training camp which is why no one pays attention to my predictions anymore.

The next year the Seahawks drafted Ben Obomanu, who last 7 seasons as a backup WR and core special teamer.

The current #87 is Kellen Davis, who played 17 games (including 2 playoff games) after being signed in week 2. He was then made inactive for the Superbowl. Just remember that "Always Compete" means some players get left behind.

My MVP for #87 could come from any number of guys. Some of you will certainly pick JJ based on his 10 TD 2005 season. My favorite, however, was a veteran signed by Chuck Knox to help his 1983 team win sooner than later. Charle Young caught 97 passes in three seasons and helped pave the road for a young tailback from Penn State named Curt Warner.

Sorry, couldn't find a good pick of Young, so here's another

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Sorry Hawkstorian, but I'm not sure how you can be a member of the 38 club and choose Patrick Kerney over Rufus Porter!
 

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Yep, Charle Young, who also could be considered the TE MVP in Seahawks history.
 

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What???? Boone Stutz isn't the best Seahawk to wear #89? What a farce....

Seriously, Hawkstorian an outstanding job. Nicely done. Much appreciation that you chose to share this with us.
 

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