Time for a partial rebuild?

[massari]

If they can get a high draft pick(s) for Bennett this coming off-season, then they've gotta do it. High draft pick(s)+an extra 7.5M to spend on FA's >> 31 year old Bennett.

Big IF

Don't see the market there. We're not talking a Richard Seymour situation where he's in his mid/late 20s.

In addition, if you're getting an R1 pick -- then it makes more sense to just draft a DT in 2017. The pass rush options are very thick next year.

Was thinking more like a 2nd. Hopefully more. Nothing less.

Also, Seymour was 30 when he was traded, so one year younger than Bennett. Both guys in the final year of a contract.

 

[lukerguy]

I think the notion of a rebuild as you mean it is emotionally charged, knee-jerk reaction.

However, the notion from a Seahawks team philosophical perspective isn't far off. I believe they plan a partial rebuild every off-season.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Should JS cut some salary and partially rebuild this team?

Trade a few players for picks and pickup some young talent for the offensive line instead of dumpster fire FA's?

I think now is the time for JS start thinking about it.

MB and JG would be the players to unload.

What the wat.


Lemme get this straight. You want to trade our best players who make a ton of money two games into the season for young players that I assume are also very talented yet don't make even half as much and therefore any other team would be insane to part with only two games in cause everyone's still in contention?

I've seen some premature knee jerk threads, but this might be the knee jerkiest knee jerk that ever knee jerked in Jerktown.

 

[seahawk Dan]

You do not rebuild when media is still saying you have a good chance to win a super bowl with this team .

 

[YYZHawksFan]

yes. seasons over and they should just accept that and move on.

man is it becoming harder and harder to come to this place during the season.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

man is it becoming harder and harder to come to this place during the season.

+1

Expectations have grown so much in four years -- they're now barely realistic in the slightest.

Every loss magnified, every off-day = someone needs to be fired or cut or traded.

And there are probably 20 teams out there with very little hope of winning anything this year -- and we can't enjoy being one of the 12 who could go all the way.

This team and staff won't be around forever. Live the ride while it lasts.

 

[OkieHawk]

Expectations have grown so much in four years -- they're now barely realistic in the slightest.

Every loss magnified, every off-day = someone needs to be fired or cut or traded.

And there are probably 20 teams out there with very little hope of winning anything this year -- and we can't enjoy being one of the 12 who could go all the way.

This team and staff won't be around forever. Live the ride while it lasts.

While this is a valid point, one can't expect everyone to act that way. Last I checked we were all human, therefore we will all react differently. Add in frustration at the way things are going, whether real or perceived, and people will come to their one place they feel that they can complain about it, .Net.

It's like people have never been to a forum before...

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

Expectations have grown so much in four years -- they're now barely realistic in the slightest.

Every loss magnified, every off-day = someone needs to be fired or cut or traded.

And there are probably 20 teams out there with very little hope of winning anything this year -- and we can't enjoy being one of the 12 who could go all the way.

This team and staff won't be around forever. Live the ride while it lasts.

While this is a valid point, one can't expect everyone to act that way. Last I checked we were all human, therefore we will all react differently. Add in frustration at the way things are going, whether real or perceived, and people will come to their one place they feel that they can complain about it, .Net.

It's like people have never been to a forum before...

One of the things I've noticed on internet forums is that for every complaint, there's a complainer complaining about the complaint.

 

[Siouxhawk]

Expectations have grown so much in four years -- they're now barely realistic in the slightest.

Every loss magnified, every off-day = someone needs to be fired or cut or traded.

And there are probably 20 teams out there with very little hope of winning anything this year -- and we can't enjoy being one of the 12 who could go all the way.

This team and staff won't be around forever. Live the ride while it lasts.

While this is a valid point, one can't expect everyone to act that way. Last I checked we were all human, therefore we will all react differently. Add in frustration at the way things are going, whether real or perceived, and people will come to their one place they feel that they can complain about it, .Net.

It's like people have never been to a forum before...

One of the things I've noticed on internet forums is that for every complaint, there's a complainer complaining about the complaint.

Sounds like the government.

 

[OkieHawk]

One of the things I've noticed on internet forums is that for every complaint, there's a complainer complaining about the complaint.

Agreed. And then someone will occasionally complain about said complainer.

 

[YYZHawksFan]

One of the things I've noticed on internet forums is that for every complaint, there's a complainer complaining about the complaint.

Agreed. And then someone will occasionally complain about said complainer.

well alrighty then. see you later. as a moderator, can you just cancel my account? enjoy the tin foil hat fans.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

One of the things I've noticed on internet forums is that for every complaint, there's a complainer complaining about the complaint.

Agreed. And then someone will occasionally complain about said complainer.

Not me, I only complain about the complainer when they complain about complaining.

 

[hawk45]

If there were a way to lose Graham's salary and spend it on the offensive line, I'd be for it. Not because I hate Graham - clearly he can be a beast if he's thrown to - but because I think it's been proved over and over again when the OL starts slow because of replacing 5 guys that this team can succeed without Graham when the line is clicking. But not vice versa.

Last year was a case in point. Graham healthy early but OL awful, passing offense sucked. Lewis in at center and OL starts clicking, passing offense looked great.

The quick passing had a lot to do with it obviously but we've seen this pattern of sucking early in seasons and being fine later every year. And every year the line has sucked early as well - sometimes due to injury, sometimes due to replacing 3+ players.

I don't see a case for anything approach a "rebuild", if rebuild is defined as trading away any of our core defensive players.

 

[12th_Bob]

I remember Pitt won a few years ago with an absolute garbage O-line and a pretty good defense against Arizona.

Denver won without a super awesome run game or oline as well just last year, not too worried.

 

[LickMyNuts]

I am not talking about letting a few veterans go in exchange for rookies like the team does every off season. I'm talking about dumping MB and his big mouth off on another team in exchange for a draft pick or two. And getting rid of JG who is grossly overpaid for his role in our offense. Take those picks and move up for a real LT.

I'm talking about protecting our QB for the long term. I don't see a backside tackle on this team.

 

[LeftHandSmoke]

I am not talking about letting a few veterans go in exchange for rookies like the team does every off season. I'm talking about dumping MB and his big mouth off on another team in exchange for a draft pick or two. And getting rid of JG who is grossly overpaid for his role in our offense. Take those picks and move up for a real LT.

I'm talking about protecting our QB for the long term. I don't see a backside tackle on this team.

What LT?

Once Ifedi returns after the bye I see Gilliam moving to there as originally planned, with Webb at RT also as originally planned. And with Fant also threatening for time at LT, that guy could well be the anchor there given time.

 

[theENGLISHseahawk]

I am not talking about letting a few veterans go in exchange for rookies like the team does every off season. I'm talking about dumping MB and his big mouth off on another team in exchange for a draft pick or two. And getting rid of JG who is grossly overpaid for his role in our offense. Take those picks and move up for a real LT.

I'm talking about protecting our QB for the long term. I don't see a backside tackle on this team.

Yeah... who needs one of the best DE's in the league. Bloody big mouth.

Trade him for all the picks in the 2017 draft and take seven left tackles.