Mad Dog":2ycnj3ch said:It's interesting the logic we try to use to convince ourself that moving on from Pete is anything more than restoring hope. Every time we look for something better it's to remain hopeful. Watching sports itself is filling ourselves with hope every year only to push that forward to the next season if this season doesn't turn out as we'd "hoped". It's purely emotional and nothing logical about it. Yet we debate endlessly and try to use "logical" arguments to rationalize trying to make ourselves feel more hopeful.
There is no data to back up the assertion that moving on from success leads to success. The outcomes of teams moving on from a successful regime has varied from abject and dismal failure (miami, NYG) to one hit wonders (Phi, TB) to ongoing mediocrity (Dallas) to a true success (if you consider NFC north domination by GB a success). Very little data to suggest you immediately improve a situation but of course you might get lucky. But luck is a fickle mistress so don't count on her.
Life is really two options...
Stick with what you're doing, but don't expect your patterned outcome to change
Try something different, it could lead to better success, it could lead to even more failure. (some are so afraid of failure, they never try something different, some do just fail and which they never tried something different, some keep failing until they eventually succeed or never succeed, and others do succeed or at least feel good that they are trying to succeed)
Making it to the playoffs is "success"...but you have a lot of fans who have watched how this team has played the last 5-6 years (which is A LOT of time) and the trajectory has been down as other teams who also succeed seem to hit that conference championship game time to time. There is a large group of fans (which it includes me) that doesn't believe Pete will be able to get past the divisional round of the playoffs again. The success this fan group is desiring is perhaps more than playoffs, its that NFCCG. There are others who believe success is just making it to the playoffs where it's any team's chance to win the SB (by definition) even though the team on the field perhaps is not a true contender year after year.
So yeah it is restoring hope you can be MORE successful, but of course it is not a guarantee. But there are those that see what the current guarantee of success is...as it's a grade B team in the NFL year after year. For most aspects of life, having a Grade B guarantee is better than risking it all (otherwise I would have quit my job and invested my life savings into Bitcoin a few years ago). But the NFL for us fans is entertainment, so yeah as a fan I'm good with risking failure and not being able to talk trash to other team fans if it perhaps means in a few years they truly contend for a SB vs squeaking into the playoffs and getting exposed as we've seen the last 3-4 seasons.
Who knows maybe RW is truly the one who is 100% at fault (His performance in the playoffs certainly could make one think that), but you'd hope the head coach had enough say to work around his ego and decision making.