Vikings got Sheldon

[JimmyG]

The trade basically came down to swapping a 2nd round pick for a late 3rd/4th to rent Richardson for a year. That's not that bad a deal, especially when you factor in McDowell being lost to injury. If anything you should be more upset they were relying so much on one guy (McDowell) that when he went down they got desperate.

No it didn't. Compensation picks are not a guarantee. If we sign someone of comparable salary (e.g. we are rumored to be interested in Suh), we do not get the compensation pick.

More like "the possibility of a 3rd/4th round pick".

 

[hawknation2018]

The trade basically came down to swapping a 2nd round pick for a late 3rd/4th to rent Richardson for a year. That's not that bad a deal, especially when you factor in McDowell being lost to injury. If anything you should be more upset they were relying so much on one guy (McDowell) that when he went down they got desperate.

No it didn't. Compensation picks are not a guarantee. If we sign someone of comparable salary (e.g. we are rumored to be interested in Suh), we do not get the compensation pick.

More like "the possibility of a 3rd/4th round pick".

Suh would not cost us a compensatory pick because he was released.

 

[JimmyG]

The trade basically came down to swapping a 2nd round pick for a late 3rd/4th to rent Richardson for a year. That's not that bad a deal, especially when you factor in McDowell being lost to injury. If anything you should be more upset they were relying so much on one guy (McDowell) that when he went down they got desperate.

No it didn't. Compensation picks are not a guarantee. If we sign someone of comparable salary (e.g. we are rumored to be interested in Suh), we do not get the compensation pick.

More like "the possibility of a 3rd/4th round pick".

Suh would not cost us a compensatory pick because he was released.

Okay, good point. I will concede Suh, but the point still stands.

 

[DJrmb]

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So two 4th round comps for Jimmy/Sheldon and a possible 5th for Paul. Mingo should cancel out Shead. Not sure who Dickson would cancel out, yet.

I don't think chasing compensatory picks is normally the best way to improve a team, but those three picks could help a little in the future.

Shead was released, not a UFA. He will not count in compensatory figures.

Mingo likely cancels out PRich, and at this point Dickson cancels out whoever the lower pick is of Jimmy/Sheldon.

That being said, it's not over yet. A guy like Luke Willson signing somewhere will stop the cancellation of the Jimmy/Sheldon pick if they don't sign any more UFAs.

 

[vin.couve12]

Meh...done with the Richardson subject. Glad he's gone.

Spilled milk everywhere. Clean it up and move on.

 

[rcaido]

We were one bad kicker away from the playoffs and without the secondary injuries probably been cake walk to the superbowl.

It was a good trade/gamble....Kearse was already going to get released. Sheldon would either be our future or he walks and we get a comp pick from him for one year rental. Be amazing if we replace him with Suh who is a better player and doesn't mess up the comp pick.

 

[RussB]

Well, they wasted a 2nd rounder and kearse for literally no reason. Im glad they didnt give Sheldon a huge contract though, hopefully Malik can play next season, he can still make a huge impact.

 

[DJrmb]

The trade basically came down to swapping a 2nd round pick for a late 3rd/4th to rent Richardson for a year. That's not that bad a deal, especially when you factor in McDowell being lost to injury. If anything you should be more upset they were relying so much on one guy (McDowell) that when he went down they got desperate.

No it didn't. Compensation picks are not a guarantee. If we sign someone of comparable salary (e.g. we are rumored to be interested in Suh), we do not get the compensation pick.

More like "the possibility of a 3rd/4th round pick".

Suh would not cost us a compensatory pick because he was released.

Okay, good point. I will concede Suh, but the point still stands.

That's exactly why they're looking at Suh, and bringing in lots of guys that have been cut. In a sense, yes they can guarantee a comp pick if they stick to signing players that were cut or sign players later down the road in May when the cutoff is. They can also still trade for guys as well.

 

[Decimation]

Damn time to go all in on Suh then.

 

[hawknation2018]

Damn time to go all in on Suh then.

All signs are pointing that way. Apparently, the Seahawks did NOT offer Richardson $11M. A lot is riding on the Suh deal.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/974361223293743104[/tweet]

 

[jammerhawk]

It's time for Pete to back away from being the driving force behind some of these personnel decisions

Score is 0 for 3 now, Harvin (unable to be used effectively, Graham (unable to be used effectively), Richardson (not worth the price paid 2nd round pick and $ million for 1 year, for 4th rd. pick. Go big or go home doesn't always work. Suh will want more than $11 million/year and that is a big price to pay for a player who is 31. Richardson said his deal with Minnesota was for a higher offer than the Hawks made to him.

Let's hope Vita Vea fall to the Hawks at 15 b/c of his hamstring pull.

 

[HawkRiderFan]

Damn time to go all in on Suh then.

All signs are pointing that way. Apparently, the Seahawks did NOT offer Richardson $11M. A lot is riding on the Suh deal.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/974361223293743104[/tweet]

So he didn't just chose the Vikings over Hawks with all else being equal

 

[adeltaY]

We were one bad kicker away from the playoffs and without the secondary injuries probably been cake walk to the superbowl.

It was a good trade/gamble....Kearse was already going to get released. Sheldon would either be our future or he walks and we get a comp pick from him for one year rental. Be amazing if we replace him with Suh who is a better player and doesn't mess up the comp pick.

Cakewalk to the SB?? Lol we were going into Philly or Minny and winning easy and then beating the Pats?

 

[CalgaryHawk]

Graham and S. Richardson should each net 4th round comp picks (at a minimum). P. Richardson should net a 5th or 6th.

Dickson's contract is probably structured in such a way that it won't cancel out any of the three comp picks, ie. he is valued as a 7th and only cancels out one of our other free agents (Shead, Willson, Joeckel, Aboushi, Lacy, etc.)

Shead signed a deal for $3,350,000, which is on par with Dickson's deal.

Shead was released by the Hawks officially so his contract does not cancel out any free agents the Hawks sign. If the Hawks want any comps next year, then we’ll need other teams to sign Joeckel, Maxwell, and Willson to decent contracts.

 

[JimmyG]

No it didn't. Compensation picks are not a guarantee. If we sign someone of comparable salary (e.g. we are rumored to be interested in Suh), we do not get the compensation pick.

More like "the possibility of a 3rd/4th round pick".

Suh would not cost us a compensatory pick because he was released.

Okay, good point. I will concede Suh, but the point still stands.

That's exactly why they're looking at Suh, and bringing in lots of guys that have been cut. In a sense, yes they can guarantee a comp pick if they stick to signing players that were cut or sign players later down the road in May when the cutoff is. They can also still trade for guys as well.

That's fair, but, we cannot ignore that they have backed themselves into a corner now. Compensation picks come with asterisks -- non-trivial ones.

 

[Uncle Si]

Locking this for the moment.

This will re-open in the NFL forum.

If someone wants to start a thread about compensatory picks or just continue to post about their overall concerns about the direction of the team, please use the relevant threads.

 

[Blitzer88]

Wow.............only 8 mil plus incentives.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/974767012596633601[/tweet]

 

[DJrmb]

Wow.............only 8 mil plus incentives.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/974767012596633601[/tweet]

Yuck, now that stings...

 

[Blitzer88]

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[sdog1981]

Looks like he just wanted to get out of town.