BigMeach":1p8jact8 said:I'm so tired about hearing the Superbowl pass had anything to do with Lynch or Wilson. That is just ridiculous. As if any highly competitive person on the verge of winning the biggest game of their lives is going to even think about that... Just ludicrous.
getnasty":1c3v9la1 said:Losing Unger hasn't hurt this team in any year other then 2015. Britt has been better then Unger the last 2 years.
TwistedHusky":3j6yg478 said:I think Lynch would have been a worthy bet.
And I think Lynch with adequate blocking gets us to the SB the year after the Minnesota miss. But that is besides the point.
I don't think that Lynch was faking but I do think we could have gotten one more useful year out of him. That year, the tremendously weak Panthers made it.
The Unger deal was the shift, from a power running team to a finesse passing team. And some of you were right, we did a halfass job on that transition but the personnel moves were CLEARLY in that direction. Most player moves past that point,, on the offensive side of the ball, weakened our run game,
A key point, already previously brought up was the decision to remove the FB (which was stupid stupid stupid).
To me, that is a pretty strong indication this team changed focus and did its best to showcase the QB. The offense of 2015 was about the best Wilson could play, and even so - with him playing about as well as he could....we made a wildcard game we almost lost.
If Lynch goes down, as suggested, with the framework for a run game we had - we still probably would have been OK. But the shift to a pass oriented offense, while somewhat successful in the regular season, murdered us in the playoffs. Apparently everyone is forgetting the interception and fumble that we had to come back from that was a large part of the reason the Panthers had such a big lead in the first place.
Say what you want, but that Unger trade led to a series of cascading failures in our run game, the defense and eventually the Seahawks as reasonable SuperBowl contenders. It turned us into a wildcard team because we went far away from what worked in order to try to win on the back of a QB that was not ready for it at all.
You remain convinced Lynch would not have mattered, I disagree, but that is immaterial. Losing Unger was a symptom of a change in strategy that was doomed to failure and it was rooted building our passing attack at the expense of our run game.
The Pass sets up the Run game, just as the Run sets up the Passing game.original poster":k3jchpwo said:This should be a good one.
I’m surprised Seattle still hasn’t found an identity, they’ve had long enough. Looks like the starting pieces are at least in place to get one, though.
Lynch was in his prime for Christs sake, AND some of the Seahawks success in the Run Game was because Russell Wilson was ADDING 500 to 600 Yards of runs to the tally...That's right, Lynch actually benefitted from Wilson's ability to do the RO, which helped to keep drives alive.TwistedHusky":2wwu8evh said:I am suggesting that even while hurt, a hurt Lynch would have been a better bet to focus the team on than a healthy Wilson.
Especially with some of the other backs spelling Lynch at the time.
Lynch being hurt did not remove our chances to get to the SB in the other runs.
Why would we expect that to be different the very next year?
What DID diminish our chances was trading away a key cog in our blocking for him, in order to get a shiny new toy for the passing offense. A toy we never really bothered to use anyway, until years later.
At the time of the Unger trade, I pointed out this would drive out Lynch. It likely was not the ONLY reason, but it was very likely a contributing factor. And it was certainly an indicator that we were going to try to push our QB to move the chains instead of the RB being the workhorse on that task.
Lynch made this team a SB contender and the Unger trade was a sign to anymore looking that we wanted this team to ride the QB to the SB instead of relying on the run game.
It was a bad bet , this trade was the evidence that our efforts shifted, and it was very likely one of the changes that shut the door on our chances.
Sports Hernia":1eip1g4h said:most importantly not having enough talent to cover the severe coaching deficiencies was the key.
pittpnthrs":3eqsado9 said:Bobblehead":3eqsado9 said:There was only one move they needed to make after the SB.. that was to fire Bevel. Hawks would have cut ties with their escaped goat and all probably would have been happy.
This 1000%. By keeping Bevell the locker room became divided.
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Regardless, I believe if Bevell was fired like he should have been after 49, the players would have stuck together and the results would have been better.
pittpnthrs":34fs1ogf said:BigMeach":34fs1ogf said:I'm so tired about hearing the Superbowl pass had anything to do with Lynch or Wilson. That is just ridiculous. As if any highly competitive person on the verge of winning the biggest game of their lives is going to even think about that... Just ludicrous.
Yeah I dont look very far into all that favoritism jazz either. It was just a horrid play call that had horrid results.
MontanaHawk05":1533hyq8 said:Reading way too far into things.
And Lynch was hurt worse in 2015.