SoulfishHawk
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No matter what they do with that pick, plenty of people will complain about it. Happens every year. You didn't pick who I WANTED, you guys suck!
I actually think you are in the majority on this site (that villainizes Carroll as much as humanly possible) with the thought that he has been screwing up his underlings, especially in the draft. Personally the reports that have been saying that he gave his underlings a lot of input into who was drafted is telling. I don't consider it a coincidence that we finally got rid of Norton's influence (without him on staff, 2015-17, we drafted our best DLinemen in Clark and Reed and a pro bowl corner in Griffin) on the draft and our defensive drafting was the best in almost a decade (I think it will turn out to be our best in Seahawks history). The often stated report that Carroll vetoed picks comes directly from Me3's top shill in Colin Cowherd, who has hated on Pete Carroll for most of his career.Oh I fully admit its a blind faith lol and it all could very well be false. I'm just trying to concince myself they won't screw up this position they're in for my mental health. In fact I honestly agree with everything you wrote.
I have been super critical of their drafting because outside of last year its just been flat out bad in my opinion even when factoring in the usual arguments like they pick low every year. My gut says this comes down to the power struggle between Pete and John on what they do and I'm in the minority but I think Pete could screw this up and set the franchise back and I hope that doesn't happen.
I have Young as the 3rd QB taken. Young was a very good college QB but in many cases doesn’t translate to being a good pro. I feel if a QB is available JS will trade down especially if the trade includes a 2024 1st rd pick with Carolina being the targetIf teams are concerned about Young's size, I could see him dropping to #5, with Stroud and Levis picked before him. Not likely probably, but certainly a possibility. If he's there at 5, do the Hawks pass?
As often as I can. Trust me, it is appreciated.No matter what they do with that pick, plenty of people will complain about it. Happens every year. You didn't pick who I WANTED, you guys suck!
But I don't want it to sound like I hate Pete Carrol either, I think he is an all time great coach and has helped bring us the greatest era of football in franchise history. Like most coaches though he has some strong points and weak points. I think he is near best all time at what he's good at and not so good in other areas. No coach in history has been great in every single area.I actually think you are in the majority on this site (that villainizes Carroll as much as humanly possible) with the thought that he has been screwing up his underlings, especially in the draft. Personally the reports that have been saying that he gave his underlings a lot of input into who was drafted is telling. I don't consider it a coincidence that we finally got rid of Norton's influence (without him on staff, 2015-17, we drafted our best DLinemen in Clark and Reed and a pro bowl corner in Griffin) on the draft and our defensive drafting was the best in almost a decade (I think it will turn out to be our best in Seahawks history). The often stated report that Carroll vetoed picks comes directly from Me3's top shill in Colin Cowherd, who has hated on Pete Carroll for most of his career.
I've moved off Young a little. But watching him he was incredible. His size is almost unprecedented though and it has to be a factor.I have Young as the 3rd QB taken. Young was a very good college QB but in many cases doesn’t translate to being a good pro. I feel if a QB is available JS will trade down especially if the trade includes a 2024 1st rd pick with Carolina being the target
A thought I have had was how much different Young and Stenson Bennett are? Both about the same size and were successful with top programs 1 is thought to be the top pick in the draft where the other won’t be drafted before the 5th rd. I don’t think much separates themI've moved off Young a little. But watching him he was incredible. His size is almost unprecedented though and it has to be a factor.
That's a really good point.but do you think that's pete's prerogative? to take somebody at #5 (he ain't lasting to #20) that raw at QB? a QB that needs serious 'molding'? at this stage of the franchise?
If the Seahawks draft a TE in the first round....then the FO needs to have their heads examined. I don't care if he's the top TE. That's the position that should be the least priority for adding to in the first round.Realistic:
#5 Myles Murphy
#20 Michael Mayer
#37 Hendon Hooker
#51 John Michael Schmitz
Hopeful:
#5 Jalen Carter
#20 Lukas Van Ness
#37 Siaki Ika
#51 Hendon Hooker
Totally agree Largent, I see us trading down to no. 9 and taking Bresee. Maybe at 20 also.If Anderson or Carter aren't there at 5, I think we trade down a couple spots and draft Wilson, Bresee or Murphy.
Not sure which guy Pete and John like out of these "not Anderson or Carter" guys, so hard to say. But I'd bet money we drop down, Schneider can't help himself.
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