Will the Hawks let Geno walk after this season?

[seabowl]

Geno is playing out of his mind right now and better than anyone, including the Hawks thought he’d perform. My thought is if he got a decent sized contract offer from another team this offseason then the Hawks may not be willing to match it. Right now he’s at an all time high in terms of play and I’m not sure he’s going to continue playing near this level next year and beyond and I’d be concerned giving him a big contract.

Lastly, at this moment, he’s the best qb for the Hawks and we’re by far the best team for his skill set as he again IMO would not do nearly as well on another team. If Geno is smart he’ll take a fair deal and not ask for the moon from Seattle this offseason.

Thoughts?

 

[Spohawks]

Side question but OP related, how much will Geno make on the open market as top 3 QB and best QB available? I think 40 million.

But to answer the OP, oh he is GONE! Hawks won't pay top dollar, when they can have their pick of freah talent for pennies.

 

[Boohman14]

I don't think Geno wants to walk anymore than the Hawks want him to. I think Geno will take an incentive laden contract to remain here and have a chance at a championship. The city/fans embraced him, his teammates love him. He's getting respect around the league. He's fully functional in Waldren's system plus the team backed him in the press and in actions all pre-season. I think he's home and will negotiate a good contract for him that allows him to remain a Hawk.

The Hawks will look for a QB in the draft to compete plus we really don't know what Lock can do in Waldren's offense. I'm starting to think Denver's sh*t show on offense didn't help Lock develop.

 

[Bootsy51]

Very early thoughts....Just relax and enjoy the presence

 

[nwHawk]

I think a fair question to ask is does Geno lead this team and perform on game days in a way that makes you feel you have a chance to win a championship. Right now, he’s been talked about as an MVP candidate.

This guy followed up Seattle legend Russ and has played out of his mind.

Geno plays within the team and that allows the team to prosper. This is what you hope for when you draft a kid. Keep Geno.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

I think a fair question to ask is does Geno lead this team and perform on game days in a way that makes you feel you have a chance to win a championship. Right now, he’s been talked about as an MVP candidate.

This guy followed up Seattle legend Russ and has played out of his mind.

Geno plays within the team and that allows the team to prosper. This is what you hope for when you draft a kid. Keep Geno.

THIS.

I've already gone on record as saying that the hawks should do everything that's within their power and $ to keep Geno.

Your last line says it all.

 

[Mick063]

Whatever direction the front office chooses to go, I'm on board. I am personally not a fan of huge contract quarterbacks, but I also believe that Geno would consistently deliver on it more than most people think. I think his play would equal the level of his contract. He would, however, be burdened with a more depleted roster if he gobbles up too much of the cap budget. Can he carry a cap squeezed roster? Who knows? Would you sacrifice a Nwosu, for example, to keep Geno? Tough question. Alternatively, I also believe that Schnieder would pick the right guy in the draft and that Pete would get the most out of him, put him in a position to succeed. I doubt that the formula would quickly emulate Geno's current success, but this is still a very viable path to a championship. For example, Seattle's only championship came with a quarterback on a rookie deal. It isn't a coincidence. You can budget more specialists and depth.

I'm not overly invested in either path. I'll just go with what the staff decides to do. They are the ones looking at this stuff every day. They are the ones that have to measure performance verse budget and are much more qualified to do so than I am.

 

[keasley45]

They will sign him to a deal that's shorter than what he'd get elsewhere but for as much (or slightly above) per anum as he'd get outside Seattle. That will be the hometown discount.

Something like 4 years, 45 mil per, with 120m guaranteed plus incentives to get the whole deal guaranteed by year 3 if he's killing it.

That would give him more coin if he performs than his predecessor got in his megadeal - 180 guaranteed vs 165.

That might make zero sense in the cap world. Just a thought.

 

[keasley45]

But they will sign him. He's the qb Pete always wanted and if he continues his play, the guy who can max out PCs wins and championship potential for however much longer he coaches. No way he let's geno walk for the CHANCE a rook comes in and performs half as well in the short term

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I don't think so, but with Geno being a free agent all it takes is one other team to get stupid with an offer.

And with how terrible the QB play is right now in the league? Might be a good chance of this happening.

I mean, you've got half the league or more that would love them some Geno Smith over their QB right now, and that includes franchises like Green Bay and Tampa.

If Geno continues to play at this level into December and January? John and Pete would be wise to lock him up for 2-3 years with some serious guaranteed can't say no offers. Or else they will risk losing him next year.

 

[BamKam]

I think the Hawks will give Geno a great 3-4 year deal to stay if he continues what he is doing. He seems to appreciate it here and probably realizes better than anyone that going elsewhere isn't always the best play. Of course, if a team backs up the Brinks truck then you can't blame him for doing whats best for himself.

 

[jlwaters1]

I say sign him to a 3 year deal during the bye week.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I can't see them letting him go. If he keeps rolling like this, hopefully a 2 or 3 year deal with some incentives. He's playing himself in to a big contract, esp. with so many bad QB's out there right now. He's earning it too. Still would like them to do it later in the year, but at the same time, the more he balls out, the price goes up.
So, I can see both sides.

 

[SNDavidson]

Lock him up for 3-4 years before the playoffs start.

Going rate is about 29 per, maybe we get him for 27 per because we "made him" (sort of he worked hard)

 

[keasley45]

When they sign him, it won't be for chump change. Dude has every right to say he's a better player than Carr and Stafford and as good as Prescott. I mean, Kyler Murray got 46 million - who's the better player?? Allen and Mahomes are playing on 'yesteryear' deals. If they were to sign today, it woukd be for 50 to 55mil a year.

Geno can stand confident at 45mil because somebody will pay him that much if he plays out '22 the way he's started it.

PC will lobby for it because he knows he has maybe another 4 years left to coach. It's in his best interest to roll with the dude with the magic hand that he himself helped to sculpt, rather than bring in a kid who might take that long to approach what #7 is doing now.

They'll sign him. 45 a year feels right.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

When they sign him, it won't be for chump change. Dude has every right to say he's a better player than Carr and Stafford and as good as Prescott. I mean, Kyler Murray got 46 million - who's the better player?? Allen and Mahomes are playing on 'yesteryear' deals. If they were to sign today, it woukd be for 50 to 55mil a year.

Geno can stand confident at 45mil because somebody will pay him that much if he plays out '22 the way he's started it.

PC will lobby for it because he knows he has maybe another 4 years left to coach. It's in his best interest to roll with the dude with the magic hand that he himself helped to sculpt, rather than bring in a kid who might take that long to approach what #7 is doing now.

They'll sign him. 45 a year feels right.

Damn man, 45M seems steep.

I don't think any team's paying Geno 45M a year. Not for only one year of being good.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think if Pete and John offer him somewhere in the high 20's or low 30's for 2-3 years with almost all of it fully guaranteed he'd take it.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

45 million a season? Whoa, easy.

 

[keasley45]

Damn man, 45M seems steep.

I don't think any team's paying Geno 45M a year. Not for only one year of being good.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think if Pete and John offer him somewhere in the high 20's or low 30's for 2-3 years with almost all of it fully guaranteed he'd take it.

I get the logic, but no way he signs for that. Ryan Tannehill, Carson Wentz and Matt Ryan - recently cut Matt Ryan. Make more than that.

If I'm Geno and the Hawks put that on a napkin, I'm tossing it in the trash and calling next. Again, ASSUMING he finishes the year strong.

There's nothing in his play right now to indictate there a cliff looming... at all.

Could he get fat off his riches when he gets paid? Sure. But that will happen whether he gets 30 mil or 45mil. And no way I see him signing for Wentz money. And like I said, he plays head and shoulders above what Kyler ever has and he makes 46.

 

[keasley45]

45 million a season? Whoa, easy.

If Genos stat line finishes on the trajectory he's on now, and he wins a playoff game in impressive fashion, with a roster that will only get better next year, you're telling me that the dude who outplayed the HOF qb he just replaced (the guy who couldn't win but TWO playoff games without the LOb and Lynch), who may garner comeback okayer of the year and get MVP votes... that THAT guy should be making less than Carson Wentz?

You know what you can't tell a qb who might have just pulled in a few MVP votes ? 'Nice job. but we need to see you do it again before we trust it'.

There are but a few Elite Qbs who get that award. To be in the running at seasons end? That's not 'prove it' territory. From Geno's perspective, thats - if you'd let me play last year instead of starting Mr Unlimited, I'd already have the 'proof' under my belt.'

 

[keasley45]

They can also franchise him, but that's a risk they'll take in letting him sniff the open market.