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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:

    Great news if it’s true! :2thumbs:
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  • Good to hear, now find a way to trade for Martavis Bryant and let's go.
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  • You just don't let a guy like Thomas go.
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  • Terms of the contract will determine if it’s a good or bad thing. Sure don’t need another Kam situation.
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  • Not buying it. On Earl or Sherm. But we shall see.
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  • Hope he's right!
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  • Hope he is wrong. Will just continue the trend of holding onto the past and players past their prime.
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  • He’s not past his prime. However he will not get much love from fans after his recent antics.

    I would like to point out he has been relatively healthy throughout his career. We also lack the draft capital to replace him.
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  • ImTheScientist wrote:Hope he is wrong. Will just continue the trend of holding onto the past and players past their prime.


    Neither Earl nor Sherm are past their prime.
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  • Would love for both to be extended and to watch the rosterbating faux GM’s here lose their crap. 8)
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  • How could anyone be upset about keeping 2 future hall of famers? Come on people
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  • I blame fantasy football, and that Madden game. Everybody has a short attention span.
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  • GeekHawk wrote:I blame fantasy football, and that Madden game. Everybody has a short attention span.

    Bingo! Exactly!
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  • getnasty wrote:How could anyone be upset about keeping 2 future hall of famers? Come on people

    There is some, and there will be some.
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  • I would only trade Earl if the Cowboys were willing to send us a 1 and a 2. Otherwise forget it. He still has potentially 2-3 Pro Bowls and possibly even All Pro years left in him if he can stay healthy.

    Sherman I feel the same. Coming off his injury of course gives me pause but he's the most intelligent CB in the NFL and if anyone can compensate his game in his final years it's him. His presence alone will still be worth it, IMO.

    I feel Avril and Chancellor are both likely done. Not because of declining ability so much as neck injuries to both type of players is almost always catastrophic, especially late in their careers.

    I've had to come to the realization on my own terms that the LOB is done. What I mean by that specifically is seeing Chancellor, Thomas and Sherman in their prime, together on the field at the same time, is done. Even if somehow Chancellor were to come back, the LOB that we all knew and worshiped on gameday is a thing of the past.

    But with the right moves, LOB V2 could be a thing. Plug in some young talent (Shaq/McDougald already are showing themselves to be up to the challenge) and the Elder LOB can still have one final go around to possibly get back one more time. Yeah, make no mistake about it we are rebuilding, but don't mistake OUR rebuilding with some random NFL bottom-feeder's rebuilding.

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  • The commentary on Sherm and Earl could have been strategically floated by the front office to bolster potential trade value, particularly Earl since he is healthy. No disrespect to Sherm, simply that he is coming off a significant injury.
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  • GeekHawk wrote:I blame fantasy football, and that Madden game. Everybody has a short attention span.

    I blame the salary cap, age, injuries and guys publicly stating they'd rather be elsewhere.
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  • I think this confirms what we already knew: JS and PC aren't crazy people.
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  • GeekHawk wrote:I blame fantasy football, and that Madden game. Everybody has a short attention span.

    I know exactly what you mean.
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  • We already know that no one is willing to pay us what we thought Sherm was worth before his injuries. They certainly won’t pay what we need for him now. Hopefully he recovers his health and his witts and returns to being a top nfl player for us. I expect Earl’s situation is much the same.
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  • Since Sherm does it through mostly brains and film study, I expect that he would make a very good position coach when he slows down from age/injuries. When that happens, I hope he retires as a Seahawk and sticks around to coach.
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  • massari wrote:
    GeekHawk wrote:I blame fantasy football, and that Madden game. Everybody has a short attention span.

    I blame the salary cap, age, injuries and guys publicly stating they'd rather be elsewhere.


    Neither of these guys have said they’d rather play elsewhere. Earls comments to the cowboys was prefaced by if we let him go and don’t pay him. You may assume that was his intention and you are free to believe that, but it’s disingenuous to state that he wants to be elsewhere as if it’s a fact instead of just an opinion

    As for the “report” this sounds an awful lot like he’s speculating using public information and nothing we don’t already know. This is the most likely scenario given everything that is public. It’s what I’d expect. Of course we don’t know what goes on behind the scene so this speculation will continue on and off throughout the off season
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  • kidhawk wrote:
    massari wrote:
    GeekHawk wrote:I blame fantasy football, and that Madden game. Everybody has a short attention span.

    I blame the salary cap, age, injuries and guys publicly stating they'd rather be elsewhere.


    Neither of these guys have said they’d rather play elsewhere. Earls comments to the cowboys was prefaced by if we let him go and don’t pay him. You may assume that was his intention and you are free to believe that, but it’s disingenuous to state that he wants to be elsewhere as if it’s a fact instead of just an opinion

    As for the “report” this sounds an awful lot like he’s speculating using public information and nothing we don’t already know. This is the most likely scenario given everything that is public. It’s what I’d expect. Of course we don’t know what goes on behind the scene so this speculation will continue on and off throughout the off season


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  • kidhawk wrote:
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    GeekHawk wrote:I blame fantasy football, and that Madden game. Everybody has a short attention span.

    I blame the salary cap, age, injuries and guys publicly stating they'd rather be elsewhere.


    Neither of these guys have said they’d rather play elsewhere. Earls comments to the cowboys was prefaced by if we let him go and don’t pay him. You may assume that was his intention and you are free to believe that, but it’s disingenuous to state that he wants to be elsewhere as if it’s a fact instead of just an opinion

    As for the “report” this sounds an awful lot like he’s speculating using public information and nothing we don’t already know. This is the most likely scenario given everything that is public. It’s what I’d expect. Of course we don’t know what goes on behind the scene so this speculation will continue on and off throughout the off season

    This time of year, every rumor seems to command massive amounts of speculation.

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  • GeekHawk wrote:Since Sherm does it through mostly brains and film study, I expect that he would make a very good position coach when he slows down from age/injuries. When that happens, I hope he retires as a Seahawk and sticks around to coach.

    Maybe he will after his broadcasting career, but I doubt very much he would turn down the sort of cash and national attention networks would offer to be a mere position coach.
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  • What's Rappaport's track record? Is this reporting likely accurate or is he one of those reporters that when he says something, the opposite happens?
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  • HawkGA wrote:What's Rappaport's track record? Is this reporting likely accurate or is he one of those reporters that when he says something, the opposite happens?

    He's usually pretty decent. HOWEVER, he did report that neither Cable nor Bevell were going anywhere, so......
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  • KiwiHawk wrote:
    GeekHawk wrote:Since Sherm does it through mostly brains and film study, I expect that he would make a very good position coach when he slows down from age/injuries. When that happens, I hope he retires as a Seahawk and sticks around to coach.

    Maybe he will after his broadcasting career, but I doubt very much he would turn down the sort of cash and national attention networks would offer to be a mere position coach.


    I think you're right, my Southern-hemisphere friend. Sherm's degree is in communication, and it makes sense for him to use it in the area he knows best. The money there is also good enough to draw him.
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  • Merely speculation at this point but with free agency rapidly approaching we can expect to see some action in F.A. pretty soon.
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  • hawkman wrote:Terms of the contract will determine if it’s a good or bad thing. Sure don’t need another Kam situation.


    Exactly. Living in the past at a high cost doesn't help us re-tool when we have the chance. Neither of these deals should be automatic IMO. Also, this is one mans opinion. Personally I'd like them both, but not at top of their position pay scale during the downside of their careers though.
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  • No matter what they do, someone is bound to complain about it :lol:
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:No matter what they do, someone is bound to complain about it :lol:


    Pretty much. Just a matter of when and how many. ;)
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  • With regards to Earl and Sherm I won't believe anything until it's properly confirmed.

    I would take what Rapoport says with a fistful of salt, though.
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  • Yeah, this is going to be one crazy off-season. Clearly there is a lot on the line for Pete and company.
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  • original poster wrote:With regards to Earl and Sherm I won't believe anything until it's properly confirmed.

    I would take what Rapoport says with a fistful of salt, though.


    Well, personally, I'm not entirely convinced until I see it from Incarcerated Bob.
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  • original poster wrote:With regards to Earl and Sherm I won't believe anything until it's properly confirmed.

    I would take what Rapoport says with a fistful of salt, though.


    Isn't that "fistful of dollars".....and "grain of salt"? :twisted:

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  • All these Mediots are guessing right now, teams rarely let anything out of the bag during the F.A. signing period and the draft. If they guess right they say I told you so, if wrong the in named source was misinformed.
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  • chris98251 wrote:All these Mediots are guessing right now, teams rarely let anything out of the bag during the F.A. signing period and the draft. If they guess right they say I told you so, if wrong the in named source was misinformed.


    Source? Like HSU uses, many sources are the bathroom mirror at the corner Shell station. In a pinch a shiny chrome moony hubcap will do "for an official source".
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  • Seymour wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:All these Mediots are guessing right now, teams rarely let anything out of the bag during the F.A. signing period and the draft. If they guess right they say I told you so, if wrong the in named source was misinformed.


    Source? Like HSU uses, many sources are the bathroom mirror at the corner Shell station. In a pinch a shiny chrome moony hubcap will do "for an official source".


    Your glasses look like a source.
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    chris98251 wrote:All these Mediots are guessing right now, teams rarely let anything out of the bag during the F.A. signing period and the draft. If they guess right they say I told you so, if wrong the in named source was misinformed.


    Source? Like HSU uses, many sources are the bathroom mirror at the corner Shell station. In a pinch a shiny chrome moony hubcap will do "for an official source".


    Your glasses look like a source.


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  • If ET is unwilling to play out the final year of his deal, then thanks for playing Earl. Why reward that with an extension? This screams desperation.
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  • edogg23 wrote:If ET is unwilling to play out the final year of his deal, then thanks for playing Earl. Why reward that with an extension? This screams desperation.


    You seem to be confused. Getting an extension done with a year left isn't 'rewarding a refusal to play out the last year'. It's 'locking in a player before he becomes a free agent, and thereby holding down the cost a bit'. Who said ET3 isn't willing to play out the final year of his contract, anyway?
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    edogg23 wrote:If ET is unwilling to play out the final year of his deal, then thanks for playing Earl. Why reward that with an extension? This screams desperation.


    You seem to be confused. Getting an extension done with a year left isn't 'rewarding a refusal to play out the last year'. It's 'locking in a player before he becomes a free agent, and thereby holding down the cost a bit'. Who said ET3 isn't willing to play out the final year of his contract, anyway?


    ET pretty much said that himself.

    "I definitely don't see myself going out there not signed. But I'm going to continue to work my butt off and enjoy this process at the Pro Bowl."
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  • Sports Hernia wrote:Would love for both to be extended and to watch the rosterbating faux GM’s here lose their crap. 8)


    Yeah, who cares about improving the roster .. as long as a few anonymous internet people are incorrect on their "Become a GM!" post that's what truly matters here.

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    GeekHawk wrote:Since Sherm does it through mostly brains and film study, I expect that he would make a very good position coach when he slows down from age/injuries. When that happens, I hope he retires as a Seahawk and sticks around to coach.

    Maybe he will after his broadcasting career, but I doubt very much he would turn down the sort of cash and national attention networks would offer to be a mere position coach.


    I think you're right, my Southern-hemisphere friend. Sherm's degree is in communication, and it makes sense for him to use it in the area he knows best. The money there is also good enough to draw him.

    Oh it's more than that. I believe he's been consciously cultivating that opportunity since he joined the league. He started off as a loudmouth to get national attention, then calmed down is persona once he was a household name, then started his blog and trend toward appearing rational and thoughtful while still taking stands on topical player issues. The people who liked him before love him now that he's a bit less caustic, and the people who didn't like him before begin to forgive his previous outbursts in light of his passion and intelligence.

    In the mean time he proves he can write and provides valuable insight as a well-connected player.

    If you sat in a Stanford communications class and your project was scripting an athlete's career with the eventual end being a broadcast deal, I don't know if you can write it up any better than Sherman has performed it. Hes kind of like a Deion Sanders who stopped being an insufferable prick at some point, unlike the real one.
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  • XxXdragonXxX wrote:
    ImTheScientist wrote:Hope he is wrong. Will just continue the trend of holding onto the past and players past their prime.


    Neither Earl nor Sherm are past their prime.


    This 100%. The thought that Earl OR Sherm are "past their prime" is absurd. Safeties can play at an elite level well into their 30's and Earl is only 28 right now. And Sherm (29) has never been dependent on speed as his main attribute so that doesn't hold water with him as well.

    I don't understand how getting rid of the best FS in the league whose team's defensive scheme is literally built around him and a shutdown corner that eliminates one side of the field and replacing them with league average players (at best) makes you a better team... Defensive backs can still play at a very high level into their 30's. There are plenty of historic examples to prove the point.
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    ImTheScientist wrote:Hope he is wrong. Will just continue the trend of holding onto the past and players past their prime.


    Neither Earl nor Sherm are past their prime.


    This 100%. The thought that Earl OR Sherm are "past their prime" is absurd. Safeties can play at an elite level well into their 30's and Earl is only 28 right now. And Sherm (29) has never been dependent on speed as his main attribute so that doesn't hold water with him as well.

    I don't understand how getting rid of the best FS in the league whose team's defensive scheme is literally built around him and a shutdown corner that eliminates one side of the field and replacing them with league average players (at best) makes you a better team... Defensive backs can still play at a very high level into their 30's. There are plenty of historic examples to prove the point.


    Yes the are, both of them.

    "Prime" means the height of their speed, quickness, health, effectiveness, athleticism and most importantly focus and determination.

    Neither Sherman or Earl are at the same level they were in all the attributes I listed above, especially the health part.

    Still both very good players, but sorry neither is at the level of their prime 3-4 years ago.
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