Chris Simms: "RW camp says no confidence in coaching staff"

[IndyHawk]

What is surprising is people keep being shocked that the stuff we've complained about for years is the very thing that the star player might be complaining about as well.

Not sure why it takes so long for some to realize the obvious.

You know I'm going to put my two cents in now..For the first five years
I was in RW's corner..You can go back and see but you won't find anything
but me being just like you guys.I tend to see things and look ahead
more than the average person.I don't want to wait until the guy is washed
up and worth nothing but a massive cap hit.The signs are already there
and he clearly is not in his prime,most QB's do not age like a Brady.
He wants to blame the coaching staff but you got to two SB's and took
a good chunk of the cap afterwards...Did he get better?Not nearly like I
thought and you can point to his legs covering a lot of limitations by going
off script and playing sandlot ect which is fine till your legs are gone right?
Then you are pretty much ******.I think Pete knew all this and tried to
protect him.You have RW worrying about cooking and legacy so Pete
decided to expose him so now he wants to blame anything but himself.
i'm sure he wants out and PC wants him out too I believe ..That dead cap
is an issue but if Russ pays his bonus back he can get an extension
with new team that pays all that back so not a big issue for the Bears.
Another thing..People assume Paul Allen would be on RW's side..I don't
think so..He hired Pete to be his Main football man,I don't think he would
believe in letting one player trying to get his way over the team..Nah

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

I was ready to move on after he basically threw the entire offensive line under the bus. I mean, they do suck, but to basically call them out as an excuse for wanting to leave is petty at best.

It's a shame, it really is, but I'm ready to cash him out and move on. If the dead cap weren't an issue, I suspect it would be already done.



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Please quote me the sentence where he said the OL was to blame.

Please - waiting

Who do you think he was referring to with the sacks issue? Blitz the mascot?

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[John63]

Simms last week said Russell Wilson had say in the OC hire and now says he has no confidence in the guy he help pick?

There's been talk that Russ was lukewarm on him and that it was essentially the best choice out of not so great options to him.

It's definitely not like they got the guy Russ had to have (I don't think such a guy existed, tbf).

Then quit being a pu$$y and ask for a trade if that's the case. At least Watson has made it clear what he wants. Russ just needs to grow a set and quit worrying about his image.

Wilson did make it clear what eh wants now we are waiting to see if they give it to him or not.

 

[John63]

I was ready to move on after he basically threw the entire offensive line under the bus. I mean, they do suck, but to basically call them out as an excuse for wanting to leave is petty at best.

It's a shame, it really is, but I'm ready to cash him out and move on. If the dead cap weren't an issue, I suspect it would be already done.



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LOl except he did not throw them or any player under the bus, except himself. He said he is tired of being hit, that does not mean the oline that can also mean scheme, and then he said he needs to be better also. Some assume he meant oline even thought he did not say oline. Ye twhen looking at the fact the scheme seems to be the bigger issue.

 

[John63]

What is surprising is people keep being shocked that the stuff we've complained about for years is the very thing that the star player might be complaining about as well.

Not sure why it takes so long for some to realize the obvious.

You know I'm going to put my two cents in now..For the first five years
I was in RW's corner..You can go back and see but you won't find anything
but me being just like you guys.I tend to see things and look ahead
more than the average person.I don't want to wait until the guy is washed
up and worth nothing but a massive cap hit.The signs are already there
and he clearly is not in his prime,most QB's do not age like a Brady.
He wants to blame the coaching staff but you got to two SB's and took
a good chunk of the cap afterwards...Did he get better?Not nearly like I
thought and you can point to his legs covering a lot of limitations by going
off script and playing sandlot ect which is fine till your legs are gone right?
Then you are pretty much f***.I think Pete knew all this and tried to
protect him.You have RW worrying about cooking and legacy so Pete
decided to expose him so now he wants to blame anything but himself.
i'm sure he wants out and PC wants him out too I believe ..That dead cap
is an issue but if Russ pays his bonus back he can get an extension
with new team that pays all that back so not a big issue for the Bears.
Another thing..People assume Paul Allen would be on RW's side..I don't
think so..He hired Pete to be his Main football man,I don't think he would
believe in letting one player trying to get his way over the team..Nah

You are entitled to your opinion but the facts and stats do not support he has not gotten better.

 

[John63]

I was ready to move on after he basically threw the entire offensive line under the bus. I mean, they do suck, but to basically call them out as an excuse for wanting to leave is petty at best.

It's a shame, it really is, but I'm ready to cash him out and move on. If the dead cap weren't an issue, I suspect it would be already done.



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Please quote me the sentence where he said the OL was to blame.

Please - waiting

Who do you think he was referring to with the sacks issue? Blitz the mascot?

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Scheme I mean run run throw long and everyone knows it is a recipe for sacks and htis. The biggest issue is the scheme PC wants is predictable and easy to read. Every team in the NFC has said it. That is a recipe for a QB getting hits alot. Let's remember we were avg over 40 sacks a year before Wilson even came to the hawks,

 

[TwistedHusky]

Again, half our entire fanbase has no confidence in this staff and people expect the star QB to have confidence?

Second, whether Chris Simms is great or terrible is immaterial. Wilson's team has a history of feeding talking points to the media. It is a lot more likely this came from Wilson's camp than invented by Simms.

And if it came from Wilson, then it is both real and a problem.

 

[AgentDib]

For those that say Russ's dead cap hit makes this unrealistic, I would remind you that Wentz's dead cap hit is 33.88 million.

The Eagles were 4-11-1 last season and have a brand new head coach who was brought in to do a full rebuild. In place of Wentz, they have a QB they drafted on a rookie contract. They also have their own first round picks, so there's a good chance that they play a lot of youth and end up with a top pick next year as part of the "rebuild".

What parts of that would you compare to the current Seahawks situation? Nobody has said that it is impossible to trade Russ, but rather that it seems unlikely given that Pete Carroll is trying to win in 2021.

The only option you absolutely can’t live with this year is #2.

This just seems like a very strong opinion for something that has no substantiation behind it. There's a very strong pro to #2, which is that we get to continue playing with a top QB. How would the cons outweigh that?

 

[mikeak]

I was ready to move on after he basically threw the entire offensive line under the bus. I mean, they do suck, but to basically call them out as an excuse for wanting to leave is petty at best.

It's a shame, it really is, but I'm ready to cash him out and move on. If the dead cap weren't an issue, I suspect it would be already done.



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Please quote me the sentence where he said the OL was to blame.

Please - waiting

Who do you think he was referring to with the sacks issue? Blitz the mascot?

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Coaches, coaches and coaches

He said he had been hit to much and we all needed to do better. He didn't say teammates. Yes there are OL players in "all do better" but he included himself as much with hat statement.

I think it is abundantly clear that it was directed at coaches. It came after Schotty was fired and it was then beyond a doubt that PC runs this team including the offense

 

[mikeak]

I was ready to move on after he basically threw the entire offensive line under the bus. I mean, they do suck, but to basically call them out as an excuse for wanting to leave is petty at best.

It's a shame, it really is, but I'm ready to cash him out and move on. If the dead cap weren't an issue, I suspect it would be already done.



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Please quote me the sentence where he said the OL was to blame.

Please - waiting

Who do you think he was referring to with the sacks issue? Blitz the mascot?

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Scheme I mean run run throw long and everyone knows it is a recipe for sacks and htis. The biggest issue is the scheme PC wants is predictable and easy to read. Every team in the NFC has said it. That is a recipe for a QB getting hits alot. Let's remember we were avg over 40 sacks a year before Wilson even came to the hawks,

Agree

DK also said it in an interview. That teams figured out what they were going to do and then it was done. Ie no change to gameplanning

 

[nwHawk]

The biggest issue is the scheme PC wants is predictable and easy to read. Every team in the NFC has said it. That is a recipe for a QB getting hits alot. Let's remember we were avg over 40 sacks a year before Wilson even came to the hawks,

Pete’s first year was Hasslebecks last, the team gave up 35 sacks. Next year TJack and Bevell came in and gave up 50 sacks. Russ started the next season and allowed 33 sacks. Considering just how bad the team and depth was when Pete and John took over, I think it’s a reach to say the Seahawks were known schematically to be geared toward giving up sacks. It’s also false to say that Pete’s teams averaged 40+ sacks before Russ took over. But hey, believe what you want if it helps.

 

[FresnoHawk52]

The biggest issue is the scheme PC wants is predictable and easy to read. Every team in the NFC has said it. That is a recipe for a QB getting hits alot. Let's remember we were avg over 40 sacks a year before Wilson even came to the hawks,

Pete’s first year was Hasslebecks last, the team gave up 35 sacks. Next year TJack and Bevell came in and gave up 50 sacks. Russ started the next season and allowed 33 sacks. Considering just how bad the team and depth was when Pete and John took over, I think it’s a reach to say the Seahawks were known schematically to be geared toward giving up sacks. It’s also false to say that Pete’s teams averaged 40+ sacks before Russ took over. But hey, believe what you want if it helps.

The Seahawks won the Super Bowl with the highest or one of the highest rated OL’s in the league at that time!

 

[FresnoHawk52]

Seattle has crossed the Rubicon! If they keep RW and don’t go to the Super Bowl Pete’s going to be fired!

 

[FresnoHawk52]

Please quote me the sentence where he said the OL was to blame.

Please - waiting

Who do you think he was referring to with the sacks issue? Blitz the mascot?

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Scheme I mean run run throw long and everyone knows it is a recipe for sacks and htis. The biggest issue is the scheme PC wants is predictable and easy to read. Every team in the NFC has said it. That is a recipe for a QB getting hits alot. Let's remember we were avg over 40 sacks a year before Wilson even came to the hawks,

Agree

DK also said it in an interview. That teams figured out what they were going to do and then it was done. Ie no change to gameplanning

Schotty answered too many questions truthfully! It gave the opponents too much insight as to how he makes his decisions during the game combine that with vanilla playbook they never had a chance.

 

[pittpnthrs]

What is surprising is people keep being shocked that the stuff we've complained about for years is the very thing that the star player might be complaining about as well.

Not sure why it takes so long for some to realize the obvious.

You know I'm going to put my two cents in now..For the first five years
I was in RW's corner..You can go back and see but you won't find anything
but me being just like you guys.I tend to see things and look ahead
more than the average person.I don't want to wait until the guy is washed
up and worth nothing but a massive cap hit.The signs are already there
and he clearly is not in his prime,most QB's do not age like a Brady.
He wants to blame the coaching staff but you got to two SB's and took
a good chunk of the cap afterwards...Did he get better?Not nearly like I
thought and you can point to his legs covering a lot of limitations by going
off script and playing sandlot ect which is fine till your legs are gone right?
Then you are pretty much f***.I think Pete knew all this and tried to
protect him.You have RW worrying about cooking and legacy so Pete
decided to expose him so now he wants to blame anything but himself.
i'm sure he wants out and PC wants him out too I believe ..That dead cap
is an issue but if Russ pays his bonus back he can get an extension
with new team that pays all that back so not a big issue for the Bears.
Another thing..People assume Paul Allen would be on RW's side..I don't
think so..He hired Pete to be his Main football man,I don't think he would
believe in letting one player trying to get his way over the team..Nah

You are entitled to your opinion but the facts and stats do not support he has not gotten better.

Yeah, this isnt really about Russell Wilson as much as its about Pete Carroll. The Hawks won the Super Bowl with the perfect storm of a great defense, a great RB, and a great QB. All the boxes were checked. The following year they almost repeated, but the defense was hurt and Pete called the worst play in the history of sports. Afterwards the coaching deficiencies started to rear their ugly head after Pete lost the locker room and the talent left. It was obvious then and more so now that Carroll needed ultimate talent to win. Why? Because he cant deviate from his philosophy and schemes. Is he too stubborn or just not a good enough coach? I dont know, but the fact is he wont. With this kind of mindset, its a miracle the team has done as well as they have and thats due to Russ. Problem is, once the team makes it into the post season, they fail because of the scheme being ran and the talent trying to run it.

Russ is not the problem, it is and has been Pete.

 

[Sports Hernia]

Not sure why it takes so long for some to realize the obvious.

You know I'm going to put my two cents in now..For the first five years
I was in RW's corner..You can go back and see but you won't find anything
but me being just like you guys.I tend to see things and look ahead
more than the average person.I don't want to wait until the guy is washed
up and worth nothing but a massive cap hit.The signs are already there
and he clearly is not in his prime,most QB's do not age like a Brady.
He wants to blame the coaching staff but you got to two SB's and took
a good chunk of the cap afterwards...Did he get better?Not nearly like I
thought and you can point to his legs covering a lot of limitations by going
off script and playing sandlot ect which is fine till your legs are gone right?
Then you are pretty much f***.I think Pete knew all this and tried to
protect him.You have RW worrying about cooking and legacy so Pete
decided to expose him so now he wants to blame anything but himself.
i'm sure he wants out and PC wants him out too I believe ..That dead cap
is an issue but if Russ pays his bonus back he can get an extension
with new team that pays all that back so not a big issue for the Bears.
Another thing..People assume Paul Allen would be on RW's side..I don't
think so..He hired Pete to be his Main football man,I don't think he would
believe in letting one player trying to get his way over the team..Nah

You are entitled to your opinion but the facts and stats do not support he has not gotten better.

Yeah, this isnt really about Russell Wilson as much as its about Pete Carroll. The Hawks won the Super Bowl with the perfect storm of a great defense, a great RB, and a great QB. All the boxes were checked. The following year they almost repeated, but the defense was hurt and Pete called the worst play in the history of sports. Afterwards the coaching deficiencies started to rear their ugly head after Pete lost the locker room and the talent left. It was obvious then and more so now that Carroll needed ultimate talent to win. Why? Because he cant deviate from his philosophy and schemes. Is he too stubborn or just not a good enough coach? I dont know, but the fact is he wont. With this kind of mindset, its a miracle the team has done as well as they have and thats due to Russ. Problem is, once the team makes it into the post season, they fail because of the scheme being ran and the talent trying to run it.

Russ is not the problem, it is and has been Pete.

This.

 

[John63]

The biggest issue is the scheme PC wants is predictable and easy to read. Every team in the NFC has said it. That is a recipe for a QB getting hits alot. Let's remember we were avg over 40 sacks a year before Wilson even came to the hawks,

Pete’s first year was Hasslebecks last, the team gave up 35 sacks. Next year TJack and Bevell came in and gave up 50 sacks. Russ started the next season and allowed 33 sacks. Considering just how bad the team and depth was when Pete and John took over, I think it’s a reach to say the Seahawks were known schematically to be geared toward giving up sacks. It’s also false to say that Pete’s teams averaged 40+ sacks before Russ took over. But hey, believe what you want if it helps.

If there was an improvement form 33 to lower maybe but considering there was not then no. Add to that PC has said he looks for run blocker, road graders, typically they can't pass block FYI 35 sacking 2010 when Hass was here would be top 5.

FYI I said "Let's remember we were avg over 40 sacks a year before Wilson even came to the hawks,' and it is accurate PC avg over 40 sacks a year with Seattle prior to Wilson. t is accurate as you just point out. let s 50 under Tjack 35 under Hass total 85 over 2 years that means 42.5 a year.

So lets look at PC sack rates in the NFL prior to Seattle

Jets 1 year 28
NE year 1 30
NE year 2 40
Ne year 3 56


Hmm a pattern the longer PC is coaching a team the more the sacks go up.

Now lets look at the avg over PCs whole NFL career

Prior to Seattle as illustrated above 154 in 4 years

Now Seattle

35 year 1 with HAss
50 year 2 with Tjack
394 in 9 years with Wilson
1 with Geno
1 with Boykin

So the total in Seattle is 481

481 form Seattle plus 154 prior to Seattle totals 635 in 13 year with an avg of 48 sacks a year


And fyi this is only regular season sacks

The fact is PC does not care about sacks or pass blocking, and he has always had QBs in the NFl with high sack numbers. Why because eh wants chunk plays which mean long developing plays which means waiting to throw which means sacks. He has said many times eh wants to run the ball and throw long, well that sets up a lot of sacks.

 

[WarHawks]

Not that my opinion means diddly, but it seems pretty obvious that he's likely gone. I'm actually ok with that. For whatever reason, his playoff magic has been dwindling anyway, and I'm already getting really tired of the drama queen act. No organization is perfect. If he really wants to leave, then he needs to grow a pair and come out and say so. If not, he should probably state that as well. Stop being obtuse.

 

[John63]

Not that my opinion means diddly, but it seems pretty obvious that he's likely gone. I'm actually ok with that. For whatever reason, his playoff magic has been dwindling anyway, and I'm already getting really tired of the drama queen act. No organization is perfect. If he really wants to leave, then he needs to grow a pair and come out and say so. If not, he should probably state that as well. Stop being obtuse.

ahh he has already said that he does not want to leave, and he has said what he wants. As to the rest about the magic etc Yeah I mean what team does not rely on magic to win games answer NOONE Should.

as to play off in 3 of his last 4 playoff games he has a QB rating over 100 so not sure were you get what you are saying. I can even go out further 4 of his last 6 over 100. So sorry what you are saying just doe snot jive.

 

[FresnoHawk52]

Not that my opinion means diddly, but it seems pretty obvious that he's likely gone. I'm actually ok with that. For whatever reason, his playoff magic has been dwindling anyway, and I'm already getting really tired of the drama queen act. No organization is perfect. If he really wants to leave, then he needs to grow a pair and come out and say so. If not, he should probably state that as well. Stop being obtuse.

ahh he has already said that he does not want to leave, and he has said what he wants. As to the rest about the magic etc Yeah I mean what team does not rely on magic to win games answer NOONE Should.

as to play off in 3 of his last 4 playoff games he has a QB rating over 100 so not sure were you get what you are saying. I can even go out further 4 of his last 6 over 100. So sorry what you are saying just doe snot jive.

RW is a goner!