nwHawk":rh7n10yf said:
Mike Holmgren to Jim Mora Jr to Pete to…. Jimmy Lake…? Hahaha - forget about it!!
The risk and reward switch-a-roo is tough to pull off quickly. I think the OP has a good perspective. When you change coaches it’s not just the top dog, it’s everything. That generally means a rebuild. Some guys will fit the new regime, but many must be replaced in order to match the scheme, attitude and etc… of the new staff. A new coach must have a fair shake.
I wish Pete would have more tough voices on the staff. Seems like a lot of yes men. While I don’t like everything Pete does, I don’t hate him. Anyone still remember the excitement of the Tom Flores hiring? Past Super Bowl winner as a player and Head Coach. Replaced tired old Ground Chuck. Those seasons were so rough. I never want anything like that to happen again.
Who's to say that we won't get to Jim Mora Jr. levels with Pete Carroll? We are now close to 10 years removed from our last Super Bowl appearance. Since then we've seen diminishing returns. The Seahawks are 3-5 in the playoffs since our last Super Bowl appearance. Our only wins came from: A missed 27 yard field goal in the waning seconds of the game, a win over a Matt Stafford playing on a sprained ankle, with a messed up throwing hand, and last but not least, a win against a 40+ year old Luke McCown. We don't have a single quality win since then.
On the other sides of things we have not drafted particularly well and we've sold the future in big trades, twice for players that didn't fit what the Seahawks like to do. Paying premier pass rusher price for a safety is absurd.
Carroll has also struggled to put together a good defense despite spending significant draft capital. Since 2016 our defense has been getting worse every year. We're now well below average and we have been for quite some time. Our offense runs hot and cold and a lot of that is dictated by our HC and his vision. The Seahawks have quietly been teetering on the edge for quite some time now.
What is worse is the potential for all the above to scare away Russell Wilson. Last season Wilson was not happy, many of the rumors were fanned by Wilson's agent himself. It may come to a point where we choose Russell Wilson or Pete Carroll. I'm very much so getting McCarthy vibes right now.
Which brings me into my next point, Russell Wilson is what separates this situation from the scenarios you have mentioned. Who were the QB's post Krieg? Absolutely nobodies aside from the one decent year that Warren Moon had in the 90s with the Seahawks. You absolutely cannot compare these situations. Even Hasselbeck in 2009 had major issues. He had chronic back issues and other issues that really made him a shadow of his former self.
This is also why we should kick Pete to the curb. I don't think he is capable of capitalizing on Russell Wilson's potential as a passer. He meddles in the offense too much and he knows jack about the offense. We are squandering Wilson's prime at this point with Carroll, and quite frankly he doesn't even bring very much to the defense anymore.