PS, thank you ludakrishna for giving me a sweet new signature to replace Spin Doctor's quote. :2thumbs:
Aros":1qsy6wxq said:ludakrishna":1qsy6wxq said:Aros":1qsy6wxq said:ludakrishna":1qsy6wxq said:The plain truth is this, he has sucked. He has and always will be, a glorified Alex Smith. Aka, an Elite Game Manager. He will never be a Mahomes or a Rodgers or a Brees or a Brady. He has shown that he cannot sustain a high level of QB play for the entire duration of a season.
Worst opinion I have read in years.
Please prove me incorrect. Name a season where he was lights out or completely consistent from week 1-17.
Let's start with you showing me ONE single quarterback in this league where they were "lights out or completely consistent from week 1-17." You can't because it doesn't exist. Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, ALL have games where they slip up and don't look like themselves. It happens because they are human beings. I get that some of us get all get butt hurt after a surprising and embarrassing loss but a modicum of perspective, not overreacting and throwing out hyperbole like candy after a loss would sure be a welcomed change in this community.
rcaido":obynaknw said:If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
ludakrishna":1ahhm7mr said:Off the top of my head, Patrick Mahomes 2018, 2020
Sgt. Largent":u4v4sio6 said:rcaido":u4v4sio6 said:If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
Why?
Dude has two all pro receivers, a good pass pro O-line and a top 5 RB.
I thought we wanted Russ to cook, guess now we don't want Russ to cook and too much is being asked of him. Maybe he needs to stop being so stubborn and always looking for the deep ball and tell his coordinator and coach to help him out with that.
People need to stop making excuses for Russell and the coaches after bad games. He's making 35M a year now, he HAS to play well 90% of the time.
Sgt. Largent":xvrlpbz1 said:rcaido":xvrlpbz1 said:If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
Why?
Dude has two all pro receivers, a good pass pro O-line and a top 5 RB.
I thought we wanted Russ to cook, guess now we don't want Russ to cook and too much is being asked of him. Maybe he needs to stop being so stubborn and always looking for the deep ball and tell his coordinator and coach to help him out with that.
People need to stop making excuses for Russell and the coaches after bad games. He's making 35M a year now, he HAS to play well 90% of the time.
LTH":3lzke8nl said:Sgt. Largent":3lzke8nl said:rcaido":3lzke8nl said:If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
Why?
Dude has two all pro receivers, a good pass pro O-line and a top 5 RB.
I thought we wanted Russ to cook, guess now we don't want Russ to cook and too much is being asked of him. Maybe he needs to stop being so stubborn and always looking for the deep ball and tell his coordinator and coach to help him out with that.
People need to stop making excuses for Russell and the coaches after bad games. He's making 35M a year now, he HAS to play well 90% of the time.
The whole right side of the O line is hurt they were down to the third string right tackle... Russ was running for his life most of the game... Carson and Hyde were on snap counts because they are playing hurt... It's amazing to me with the Punishment Russ takes that he is as good as he is...
LTH
LTH":3tkrf7lu said:Sgt. Largent":3tkrf7lu said:rcaido":3tkrf7lu said:If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
Why?
Dude has two all pro receivers, a good pass pro O-line and a top 5 RB.
I thought we wanted Russ to cook, guess now we don't want Russ to cook and too much is being asked of him. Maybe he needs to stop being so stubborn and always looking for the deep ball and tell his coordinator and coach to help him out with that.
People need to stop making excuses for Russell and the coaches after bad games. He's making 35M a year now, he HAS to play well 90% of the time.
The whole right side of the O line is hurt they were down to the third string right tackle... Russ was running for his life most of the game... Carson and Hyde were on snap counts because they are playing hurt... It's amazing to me with the Punishment Russ takes that he is as good as he is...
LTH
LTH":7x3fqgr3 said:Sgt. Largent":7x3fqgr3 said:rcaido":7x3fqgr3 said:If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
Why?
Dude has two all pro receivers, a good pass pro O-line and a top 5 RB.
I thought we wanted Russ to cook, guess now we don't want Russ to cook and too much is being asked of him. Maybe he needs to stop being so stubborn and always looking for the deep ball and tell his coordinator and coach to help him out with that.
People need to stop making excuses for Russell and the coaches after bad games. He's making 35M a year now, he HAS to play well 90% of the time.
The whole right side of the O line is hurt they were down to the third string right tackle... Russ was running for his life most of the game... Carson and Hyde were on snap counts because they are playing hurt... It's amazing to me with the Punishment Russ takes that he is as good as he is...
LTH
rcaido":2n2e028j said:Cant wait till we win next Sunday. These post are getting ridiculous.
Wilson is on pace to have career years
70% completion
32 tds
3,479yrds
107.6 Rate
He also has 424yrds in rushing which is the most he has had in a couple years. Carson has 429yrds & Hyde 227yrds.
Wilson still has 4 more games. If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
Aros":hqbb1th2 said:ludakrishna":hqbb1th2 said:Aros":hqbb1th2 said:ludakrishna":hqbb1th2 said:The plain truth is this, he has sucked. He has and always will be, a glorified Alex Smith. Aka, an Elite Game Manager. He will never be a Mahomes or a Rodgers or a Brees or a Brady. He has shown that he cannot sustain a high level of QB play for the entire duration of a season.
Worst opinion I have read in years.
Please prove me incorrect. Name a season where he was lights out or completely consistent from week 1-17.
Let's start with you showing me ONE single quarterback in this league where they were "lights out or completely consistent from week 1-17." You can't because it doesn't exist. Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, ALL have games where they slip up and don't look like themselves. It happens because they are human beings. I get that some of us get all get butt hurt after a surprising and embarrassing loss but a modicum of perspective, not overreacting and throwing out hyperbole like candy after a loss would sure be a welcomed change in this community.
Sgt. Largent":rtox1tq8 said:LTH":rtox1tq8 said:Sgt. Largent":rtox1tq8 said:rcaido":rtox1tq8 said:If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
Why?
Dude has two all pro receivers, a good pass pro O-line and a top 5 RB.
I thought we wanted Russ to cook, guess now we don't want Russ to cook and too much is being asked of him. Maybe he needs to stop being so stubborn and always looking for the deep ball and tell his coordinator and coach to help him out with that.
People need to stop making excuses for Russell and the coaches after bad games. He's making 35M a year now, he HAS to play well 90% of the time.
The whole right side of the O line is hurt they were down to the third string right tackle... Russ was running for his life most of the game... Carson and Hyde were on snap counts because they are playing hurt... It's amazing to me with the Punishment Russ takes that he is as good as he is...
LTH
Yep, so run the ball right down their throat and call more sweeps, screens and quick short and intermediate routes.
That's how you combat what's happening. You don't stubbornly stick to sprinkling in the run game and taking deep shots.
My point is stop making excused for Russell, he has just as much say in how the offense is run as Pete and Schotty. He's got to own schemes, playcalling, line and protection changes and play changes.........of which he does A LOT.
Which is why he's always running the playclock down, he takes too long to survey the defense, move guys around and change the play, and yesterday was one of his WORST games I've ever seen out of Russell doing all this.
He was running plays right into coverage and blitzes, messing up protections and took how many terrible sacks? I lost count after 4 or 5.
Aros":2r0l1jp6 said:ludakrishna":2r0l1jp6 said:Aros":2r0l1jp6 said:ludakrishna":2r0l1jp6 said:The plain truth is this, he has sucked. He has and always will be, a glorified Alex Smith. Aka, an Elite Game Manager. He will never be a Mahomes or a Rodgers or a Brees or a Brady. He has shown that he cannot sustain a high level of QB play for the entire duration of a season.
Worst opinion I have read in years.
Please prove me incorrect. Name a season where he was lights out or completely consistent from week 1-17.
Let's start with you showing me ONE single quarterback in this league where they were "lights out or completely consistent from week 1-17." You can't because it doesn't exist. Mahomes, Brady, Rodgers, ALL have games where they slip up and don't look like themselves. It happens because they are human beings. I get that some of us get all get butt hurt after a surprising and embarrassing loss but a modicum of perspective, not overreacting and throwing out hyperbole like candy after a loss would sure be a welcomed change in this community.
chet380":1qb5bb7y said:For whatever reason, he seems heavy-legged -- while he still has the ability to evade pass rushers, we don't see all the quick moves that miraculously got him out of the trouble in the past ... as well, when he 'takes off', those old 30-40 yd. runs now all seem to be 10-15 yds. ... this aspect I'm not sure of, but has he stopped running RPO plays?
Wow Sarge..I'm impressed with your take and I believe it to be one that is close to the truth.Sgt. Largent":3uwb1ghd said:LTH":3uwb1ghd said:Sgt. Largent":3uwb1ghd said:rcaido":3uwb1ghd said:If anything Wilson is asked to do more than any player in the league.
Why?
Dude has two all pro receivers, a good pass pro O-line and a top 5 RB.
I thought we wanted Russ to cook, guess now we don't want Russ to cook and too much is being asked of him. Maybe he needs to stop being so stubborn and always looking for the deep ball and tell his coordinator and coach to help him out with that.
People need to stop making excuses for Russell and the coaches after bad games. He's making 35M a year now, he HAS to play well 90% of the time.
The whole right side of the O line is hurt they were down to the third string right tackle... Russ was running for his life most of the game... Carson and Hyde were on snap counts because they are playing hurt... It's amazing to me with the Punishment Russ takes that he is as good as he is...
LTH
Yep, so run the ball right down their throat and call more sweeps, screens and quick short and intermediate routes.
That's how you combat what's happening. You don't stubbornly stick to sprinkling in the run game and taking deep shots.
My point is stop making excused for Russell, he has just as much say in how the offense is run as Pete and Schotty. He's got to own schemes, playcalling, line and protection changes and play changes.........of which he does A LOT.
Which is why he's always running the playclock down, he takes too long to survey the defense, move guys around and change the play, and yesterday was one of his WORST games I've ever seen out of Russell doing all this.
He was running plays right into coverage and blitzes, messing up protections and took how many terrible sacks? I lost count after 4 or 5.