Marvin49":17dgc1cs said:...just....never...ends.....
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SoulfishHawk":32xl4bfd said:Just ridiculous to have that many injuries. I guess it just got tiresome to ONLY hear about Niners injuries, as if the Hawks were some healthy team :?
SoulfishHawk":xavuhlml said:The amount of injuries you guys have is unreal. At some point, it IS a huge factor.
From the outside looking in, losing Bosa was the biggest loss. But obviously Kittle can't stay healthy, and not having him is huge. Dude is a flat out beast.
I loved Joe Montana..Does that count?He'd really put up numbers in todays game.NINEster":2vtf7nu7 said:The Hawks were legitimately banged up for yesterday's match up. No Carson or Hyde....no Adams.
Had the Niners had Mostert, Wilson and Deebo Samuel and won the game, the Hawk injury excuse would have been valid, even with all of the other injuries the Niners have had. They were able to win against the Rams and Patriots with those guys.
It's just how you weight it. The Seahawks have had more of a top heavy roster than the 49ers the last few years, so they get by so long as Wilson, Lockette, Metcalf, Wagner, Wright, and any combination of Carson/Dissly/Hollister/Hyde/etc play.
Most frustrating part for me is Jimmy G being injured with such a weird timetable ailment of a high ankle sprain. After Bosa went down and the crap start to the season, I was really hoping to find out what we had in him (wanted to anyways, but esp now). Now we won't even get that, and all you're left with is the odd sinking feeling he's no longer a franchise QB.
Last year he took heat mostly for his TD/INT ratio and the run heavy offense, but compared to now he looked like a baller.
He legit had the goods IMO years back, but the injuries and perhaps even Kyle Shanahan himself ruined him. Had Brady been traded or left after the 2017 season, and Garoppolo took over NE, I just see a much better trajectory for him. The system he was in, I have to believe was better for him, and it's not like he needed to learn it quick either.
Kyle is an amazing OC, but with respect to QB pairing, it gets very interesting. I like to think he has the best offensive mind in the game at getting the run game and passing game going schematically, but it requires a very specific type of QB to succeed with. Mahomes as a Niner would have been good, probably very good, but you can see the ad lib plays bothering him.
Same with Wilson as a Niner or Kyle as a hawk OC. I don't think Kyle could improve the Seahawk offense a ton, except maybe make the run game better and hence everything else flows from that. I think the vertical game Wilson thrives on would be hampered by a WCO.
Onto the next one.
I doubt the Seahawk fans will ever praise a legitimately great 49er QB, but I think if they're silent on him.......that means he's actually good.
NINEster":2mztuqqx said:The Hawks were legitimately banged up for yesterday's match up. No Carson or Hyde....no Adams.
Had the Niners had Mostert, Wilson and Deebo Samuel and won the game, the Hawk injury excuse would have been valid, even with all of the other injuries the Niners have had. They were able to win against the Rams and Patriots with those guys.
It's just how you weight it. The Seahawks have had more of a top heavy roster than the 49ers the last few years, so they get by so long as Wilson, Lockette, Metcalf, Wagner, Wright, and any combination of Carson/Dissly/Hollister/Hyde/etc play.
Most frustrating part for me is Jimmy G being injured with such a weird timetable ailment of a high ankle sprain. After Bosa went down and the crap start to the season, I was really hoping to find out what we had in him (wanted to anyways, but esp now). Now we won't even get that, and all you're left with is the odd sinking feeling he's no longer a franchise QB.
Last year he took heat mostly for his TD/INT ratio and the run heavy offense, but compared to now he looked like a baller.
He legit had the goods IMO years back, but the injuries and perhaps even Kyle Shanahan himself ruined him. Had Brady been traded or left after the 2017 season, and Garoppolo took over NE, I just see a much better trajectory for him. The system he was in, I have to believe was better for him, and it's not like he needed to learn it quick either.
Kyle is an amazing OC, but with respect to QB pairing, it gets very interesting. I like to think he has the best offensive mind in the game at getting the run game and passing game going schematically, but it requires a very specific type of QB to succeed with. Mahomes as a Niner would have been good, probably very good, but you can see the ad lib plays bothering him.
Same with Wilson as a Niner or Kyle as a hawk OC. I don't think Kyle could improve the Seahawk offense a ton, except maybe make the run game better and hence everything else flows from that. I think the vertical game Wilson thrives on would be hampered by a WCO.
Onto the next one.
I doubt the Seahawk fans will ever praise a legitimately great 49er QB, but I think if they're silent on him.......that means he's actually good.
Allow me to flesh out my opinion.Marvin49":3g9o9zas said:knownone":3g9o9zas said:I’m wondering how long it will take people to realize how bad of GM John Lynch is. He essentially built their defense around talented injury prone players, traded away the 2nd best DT in the league, and somehow managed to enter 2020 with less talent at receiver than they had in 2019.
I wonder if you realize just how ludicrous that sounds. LOL
He took over a team that was in the cellar and completely rebuilt it into a team that was 7 minutes from a SB title.
They traded away Buck because they couldn't pay him the 21 mil per he wanted and wouldn't give the team the escape hatch they have for Ford, Kwon, and Armstead. Instead they got a pick and a very promising young DT who is on a rookie contract. They just traded Kwon BTW.
Yes, he missed on some high profile picks like Solomon Thomas, Dante Pettis, and Reuben Foster, but he also hit home runs with George Kittle, Fred Warner, Deebo Samuel, Nick Bosa, and Dre Greenlaw (whom is the reason they could trade Kwon Alexander). He also shopped the bargain bin in FA for guys like Raheem Mostert and Jason Verrett.
He surely isn't infallible, but your concept here is laughable.
As for WR, they are BETTER, not worse. Deebo is fantastic. Aiyuk is just starting to turn the corner in his rookie year and has put together back to back weeks as the teams leading receiver.
Despite ALL of the injuries, the 49ers are STILL 4-4.
KinesProf":8m6vtvmf said:They haven't so much lost their way, it's just that 2019 is the clear outlier season for the Lynch/Shanahan regime.
2017: 6-10
2018: 4-12
2019: 13-3
2020: 4-5 so far
NINEster":314ghc0g said:The Hawks were legitimately banged up for yesterday's match up. No Carson or Hyde....no Adams.
Had the Niners had Mostert, Wilson and Deebo Samuel and won the game, the Hawk injury excuse would have been valid, even with all of the other injuries the Niners have had. They were able to win against the Rams and Patriots with those guys.
It's just how you weight it. The Seahawks have had more of a top heavy roster than the 49ers the last few years, so they get by so long as Wilson, Lockette, Metcalf, Wagner, Wright, and any combination of Carson/Dissly/Hollister/Hyde/etc play.
Most frustrating part for me is Jimmy G being injured with such a weird timetable ailment of a high ankle sprain. After Bosa went down and the crap start to the season, I was really hoping to find out what we had in him (wanted to anyways, but esp now). Now we won't even get that, and all you're left with is the odd sinking feeling he's no longer a franchise QB.
Last year he took heat mostly for his TD/INT ratio and the run heavy offense, but compared to now he looked like a baller.
He legit had the goods IMO years back, but the injuries and perhaps even Kyle Shanahan himself ruined him. Had Brady been traded or left after the 2017 season, and Garoppolo took over NE, I just see a much better trajectory for him. The system he was in, I have to believe was better for him, and it's not like he needed to learn it quick either.
Kyle is an amazing OC, but with respect to QB pairing, it gets very interesting. I like to think he has the best offensive mind in the game at getting the run game and passing game going schematically, but it requires a very specific type of QB to succeed with. Mahomes as a Niner would have been good, probably very good, but you can see the ad lib plays bothering him.
Same with Wilson as a Niner or Kyle as a hawk OC. I don't think Kyle could improve the Seahawk offense a ton, except maybe make the run game better and hence everything else flows from that. I think the vertical game Wilson thrives on would be hampered by a WCO.
Onto the next one.
I doubt the Seahawk fans will ever praise a legitimately great 49er QB, but I think if they're silent on him.......that means he's actually good.
AirStrike":33mn4la0 said:KinesProf":33mn4la0 said:They haven't so much lost their way, it's just that 2019 is the clear outlier season for the Lynch/Shanahan regime.
2017: 6-10
2018: 4-12
2019: 13-3
2020: 4-5 so far
Agreed. 2019 was definitely a fluke. Garoppolo is a bad quarterback but they're a 9-7 team at best with everyone healthy.