The Hawkstorian's All-Time Numeric Roster

[Happy]

I'm still stuck on the Marshawn Lynch entry.

when I stop and ponder the impact of his play on the team, it's increidble. You could see the team identity visibly change after he came on board. That first year had some of his most memorable runs for me. When he had no blocking and he would carry groups of tacklers, fighting for every inch. Maybe the stats weren't big, but it was a breathtaking display of heart and willpower. He made his teammates play better by example.

Love this series. You're the man Hawkstorian.

 

[Zebulon Dak]

Seriously, best thread in a long time if not ever. I know nobody really gives a shit what I think but I love talking about Hawks history whenever possible, which is rarely. So thank you.

 

[Hawkstorian]

Thanks guys. Nice to know a few folks are enjoying this. We'll be getting to QBs and Punters very soon!

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

I'll thrown in my thanks again as well. Great thread idea and even better execution.

 

[Hawkstorian]

#22

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Dave	Brown	Michigan	CB	1976-1986	164	164
Nesby	Glasgow	Washington	S	1988-1992	78	31
Jon	Vaughn	Michigan	RB	1993-1994	26	2
Beno	Bryant	Washington	RB	1994	2	0
Fred	Thomas	Tennessee-Martin	CB	1996-1999	47	5
Paul	Miranda	Central Florida	CB	2000-2001	11	2
Damien	Robinson	Iowa	S	2003-2004	16	5
Jimmy	Williams	Vanderbilt	CB	2005-2006	33	1
Julius	Jones	Notre Dame	RB	2008-2010	32	24
Josh	Pinkard	Southern Cal	CB	2010	0	0
Robert	Turbin	Utah State	RB	2012-2013	37	0

Lots to talk about....

The Pittsburgh Steelers were a pretty loaded roster in the '70s. They drafted safety Dave Brown with the last pick in the first round of the 1975 draft. Brown played sparingly that first year but was then left open in the 1976 expansion draft, where he was nabbed by Seattle. As I'm sure I mentioned somewhere before, we don't have any actual record of the order of the expansion picks, but it's a safe bet Brown was at or near the top. Besides a 6 game stretch in 1981, Brown started every game for 11 seasons. He was initially a safety but switched to corner in '77. You don't see a lot of starting safeties switching to corner these days!

One of the very cool things about Brown was he seemed to get much better in his later years. Think about all the players I've talked about who were pretty good for 2 or 3 years but then sort of faded away. Guys like Terry Beeson and Autry Beamon. Brown played out of his mind in 1984, making his only pro bowl at age 31. He had two Pick 6s in a game vs. Kansas City November 4, 1984. Let's see you do THAT Richard Sherman. After 11 season in Seattle, Brown went on to play 3 more years in Green Bay for a stellar 15 year career. His 50 career interceptions as a Seahawk will be hard to top, although Sherman is off to a great start. Brown later coached in Seattle, and passed away far too young in 2006. One of the great Seahawk career and a very deserving ring-of-honor member.

After nearly a decade of labor strikes and lawsuits, the owners attempted a lame free agency plan called "Plan-B". I'd hate to see what Plan-C was! How Plan-B free agency worked was every team could protect 37 players, with the rest free to sign elsewhere. It was an asinine solution for all kinds of reasons I won't go into now, but it lasted from 1989 until 1992 until true earned free agency started in 1993. Nesby Glasgow was a veteran safety who was a good role player at the time, and he was left available in plan-B free agency ALL FOUR YEARS. So, if you ever see Nesby walking around town, say "How's it going Plan B!".

Fred Thomas always makes me scratch my head. He was a 2nd round pick in 1996 and I think we can all agree was a huge disappointment. In fact, when he broke his arm to end his 1999 season, I don't think anyone was too upset about. But then he signed with New Orleans and went on to play 8 years there, most of them as a starter and from all accounts was pretty good.

Robert Turbin is our current backup to Beastmode, but I have a feeling he'll get pushed hard for that job this summer.

The late, great Dave Brown:

 

[IndyHawk]

Man I wasn't aware Dave Brown passed..Who could forget this guy from the early years..RIP Dave Brown..

 

[Zebulon Dak]

Fair to say Dave Brown was the first true "great" Seahawk? I never got to see him play.

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Fair to say Dave Brown was the first true "great" Seahawk? I never got to see him play.

That's a shame. The two pick-6 game v. KC that 'Storian mentioned was something else. IIRC that game ended 45-0 Hawks.

 

[Hawkstorian]

#21

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Vic	Minor	NE Louisiana	S	1980-1981	20	0
Paul	Moyer	Arizona State	S	1983-1989	105	32
Brian	Treggs	California	WR	1992	2	0
Rafael	Robinson	Wisconsin	S	1992-1995	51	5
T.J.	Cunningham	Colorado	S	1996	9	0
Reggie	Rusk	Kentucky	CB	1997-1998	2	0
Randy	Fuller	Tennessee State	CB	1999	2	0
Cordell	Taylor	Hampton	CB	1999	2	0
Fred	Vinson	Vanderbilt	CB	2000	0	0
Ken	Lucas	Mississippi	CB	2001-2004, 2009	80	54
Andre	Dyson	Utah	CB	2005	13	7
Kelly	Jennings	Miami	CB	2006-2010	84	49

Vic Minor made the roster as an 8th round pick in 1980. He played every game and even had an interception in a rare victory that year vs. Houston. Unfortunately, a knee injury kept him out the first 12 games in '81 and he didn't make the team in '82.

Desperate for CB help, the Seahawks traded away RB Ahman Green for Fred Vinson in 2000. Green rushed for over 8,000 yards in Green Bay, while Vinson blew out his knee and never played.

Ken Lucas is one of those guys who started off kind of raw, then developed into a decent player, then left in free agency. A certain WR comes to mind as a recent example. After playing his prime years in Carolina, Lucas came back for one last swan song in 2009.

The most recent #21 was CB Kelly Jennings, who was a late first round pick and seemed to usually be in the right place most of the time but the WRs made the catch anyway. One of the most infuriating players in recent memory.

I'm giving the MVP to Paul Moyer, an un-drafted Safety who spent much of his career as the backup to Ken Easley. When Easley's career ended, Moyer started every game in 1988, and played pretty well, nabbing 6 picks and leading the defense into the playoffs. He also deserves high honors for making one of the biggest sacrifices a man could ever make, taking a shot in the 'nads in '86 that required surgery. Legend tells us he lost one of the boys, but later reports assure us all wound up safe and snug in the end!

 

[ChiefHawk]

The BeastQuake to me is the beginning of the current 'generation' of the Seattle Seahawks.

Before that, we had watched the first SuperBowl team deteriorate and be taken apart, and we had some glimpses of goodness, but still no unified feeling of excellence.

Lynch came over from Buffalo looking to find a place that wanted to hear him make a statement, found a team waiting for a player to do just that, so he made that statement, and everyone listened.

We all heard him that day, we all felt him that day, and felt the new Seahawks birthday.

I really think that was the one play that made "I'm in" go from a phrase to a real guide and feeling about the way ahead.

That play needed every Seahawk on the field to keep giving for it to go on, every player DID keep giving, and so did Lynch.

Then, he had his taste of the 12th man, and we've been a couple ever since...

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Isn't Ken Lucas the guy Seneca beat down the sideline for that catch in the NFCCG?

 

[Hawkstorian]

Isn't Ken Lucas the guy Seneca beat down the sideline for that catch in the NFCCG?

From the gamebook:

1-10-CAR 45 (5:56) M.Hasselbeck pass to S.Wallace pushed ob at CAR 17 for 28 yards (K.Lucas).

 

[hawksfansinceday1]

Isn't Ken Lucas the guy Seneca beat down the sideline for that catch in the NFCCG?

From the gamebook:

1-10-CAR 45 (5:56) M.Hasselbeck pass to S.Wallace pushed ob at CAR 17 for 28 yards (K.Lucas).

Thanks man. I thought so. I was at the game and couldn't tell who caught it until the replay. One of those moments in Hawks history I'll always remember.

 

[Hawkstorian]

#20

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Steve	Preece	Georgia Tech	S	1977	14	14
Mike	O'Brien	California	S	1979	3	0
Terry	Taylor	Southern Illinois	CB	1984-1988, 1994	82	56
Derek	Loville	Oregon	RB	1990-1991	27	1
Jay	Bellamy	Rutgers	S	1994-2000	99	56
Maurice	Morris	Oregon	RB	2002-2008	110	21
Justin	Forsett	California	RB	2008-2011	61	8
Kregg	Lumpkin	Georgia	RB	2012	0	0
Jeremy	Lane	Northwestern State - LA	CB	2012-2013	33	3

Some players were able to become free agents back in the '70s, but I have no clue how those rules worked. However it worked, there certainly weren't top players out there changing teams. Instead, you have veterans like Steve Preece who were able to switch teams. Preece provided veteran help to the young defense, and had 4 picks in his 1 year in Seattle.

Terry Taylor was a #1 pick in 1984 and a very good starting corner back. Unfortunately, his career was sidetracked by drug abuse. He missed games in 1988 to rehab, and then was traded on the eve of the 1989 season. A super talented and fast player.

Jay Bellamy made the team as an undrafted safety, and was a special teams ace. He eventually earned the starting job and did pretty well but he wasn't destined for stardom. After 2000 he left for New Orleans to play with his buddy Fred Thomas and stayed in the league through 2007.

Maurice Morris spent most of his time here as the backup to Shaun Alexander. He is easily the best backup running back in team history, with over 2600 rushing yards in 8 seasons; good for 8th on the team's all-time rushing list. He later signed with Detroit, because for a while there that's just where old Seahawks went to die.

Jeramy Lane was the top special teams ace for the Championship team. Looks like he'll be needed even more in the secondary in 2014.

Tough call for me for MVP. Taylor, Bellamy and Morris all have good arguments.

I'm going with the Morris, in tribute to all the un-sung backups....

 

[SalishHawkFan]

Gotta go with Mo.

 

[Hawkstorian]

#19

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Bill	Munson	Utah State	QB	1976	6	0
Fabien	Bownes	Western Illinois	WR	1999-2001	48	0
Willie	Ponder	SE Missouri State	WR	2006	6	0
Logan	Payne	Minnesota	WR	2007-2008	2	2
Bryan	Walters	Cornell	WR	2012-2013	5	1

Jim Zorn grabbed hold of the starting QB job in 1976 but no other QB on the roster was a reliable backup, so the Seahawks traded for QB Bill Munson, a career backup, who at age 35 became the oldest player on the team. He would be the oldest 'Hawk in team history except he passed away in 2000. Munson played in 6 games in Seattle and went on to finish his career at age 38 in Buffalo.

WRs were only permitted to wear numbers in the 80s until the rule changed in 2004, however up until then players had numbers in the teens as exceptions to the rule. Most notably, Keshawn Johnson wore #19 for Tampa Bay. Fabien Bownes wore #19 for the Seahawks for over two seasons until the NFL made him change to #83 mid-way through 2001. Bownes was a special teams stud, and occasional WR. His one TD catch is one I'll never forget. Just a hint, it was thrown by the MVP at #13.

Brian Walters was inactive for the Super Bowl because Percy Harvin was healthy. He still gets a ring.

Bownes is a favorite of mine -- I have qualms giving him the MVP:

 

[Hawkstorian]

A little trivia -- there is only 1 uniform number between 1 and 19 that hasn't been worn by a QB for the Seahawks.

 

[Zebulon Dak]

A little trivia -- there is only 1 uniform number between 1 and 19 that hasn't been worn by a QB for the Seahawks.

I can't think of a 16....?

Edit: Jeff Kemp!

Ok. I'm going with 9. Final answer.

 

[Hawkstorian]

Kemp was 15. Steve Myer was 16. Your final answer is correct.

 

[Hawkstorian]

#18

First	Last	College	Pos	Years	Games	Starts
Herman	Weaver	Tennessee	P	1977-1980	62	0
Stan	Gelbaugh	Maryland	QB	1992-1996	13	9
Daryl	Hobbs	Pacific	WR	1997	10	0
D.J.	Hackett	Colorado	WR	2004-2007	39	15
Mike	Hass	Oregon State	WR	2009	1	0
Sidney	Rice	South Carolina	WR	2011-2013	35	32

The Seahawks drafted both a punter AND a kicker with their extra 3rd round picks in 1976. Neither lasted past week 2 of the following year. Punter Rick Engles was cut after 1 game in 1977 and was replaced by Herman Weaver, who had perhaps the best nickname in team history. "Thunderfoot" had 5 kicks blocked in 4 seasons, however.

The Seahawk's QB situation was a bloody mess in the early '90s, but it wasn't Stan Gelbaugh's fault, who was supposed to just be a backup, but was thrust into starting roles due to injuries and ineptness. He led the team to one of the most memorable wins in team history as the Seahawk's won one of only two games in the dismal 1992 season which proved to be the great Pete Gross's last game. Gross was a brilliant play-by-play man who fought cancer for years before it took him 2 days after that game. When I hear Steve Raible say "Touchdown Seahawks", it is Pete's voice I truly hear.

Sidney Rice may not have lived up to his big 2011 contract, but he is far and away the MVP at #18. I'll never forget the brilliant throw and catch to beat New England in 2012, the game which let the world know Russell Wilson was for real. I have a feeling Rice has a few more big plays left in him.