Subzero717 wrote:This is likley to be an offseason unlike any other. While I see your point in a RB being able to plug and play right away, where does that leave us a year from now, two years from now? Defensive end fir example isnt necessarily a position thatvrequires a ton of intricacy. We are now already paying for past sins. (Malik and Penny) Its actually a lengthy list if you keep going down the 1st round failures. Thats a whole nother thread.
I also agree not becoming a slave to need, if that need is a position or two. We have holes all over and can surely find talent at 27 to fill one of the many pressing needs we have. Especially when FAs at RB come exponentially cheaper than say a DE or a CB etc. The game is to get younger and cheaper and by doing that a year or two out. Somewhere we got cute and became slaves to need. Or knee jerk reactioned our way to drafting poorly.
Yah there are two running backs that I wouldn't be mad at early, Jonathon Taylor and Clyde Edwards-Helaire. There are a lot of quality backs .. there are going to be good ones go undrafted, so you can find dudes and it's one way to go but do they have the right mind set, where are they at in there life, where is there focus, are they going to hit it from day one or will they take development.
This is why I value those two when you consider what they bring to the field as well as the right mind set, I already briefly talked about Taylor but with Edwards-Helaire it's not only his unreal cutting ability but it is how lethal he is as a receiver, I will take not having a home run threat with added talents he brings, I like them both.
I also am flaky as hell doing these mock simulators, because the more I do them the more I want more picks 50 through 90 because there are a ton of what I think we both agree on is most important....cheap 4 year contributors with the upside of more in that range. I find myself letting go of drafting Taylor or Edwards-Helaire if I am getting good draft pick compensation by trading down.When I say contributor, the floor is a healthy Will Dissly or Poona Ford, Jaran Reed. The upside for more is Frank Clark, Tyler Lockett's that are available somewhere in that range.
I just say those those two running backs because it seems to me they are the types ... we are wondering if we can afford them as they become free agents four years from now. With the edge class they seem to have something that makes me think they won't work out as sure things... I am looking for sure things as best that I can guess.
The Alabama kid Lewis, turned me off because of the injury fear .. but at the right value, it could turn out to be a home run with his best football ahead of him.
If we are not able to trade back though, and the Hawks have to pick at 27 the two best shots I can see at landing a four year contributor is one of those running backs. It's a crap shoot but trying to find the best odds is all this is and we have no where near the data or knowledge that the teams do and they mess up all the time.
I agree I don't want draft busts most of all, that is why I truly am thinking about it as best available player with the best odds for success even if the positional value is not as high, to the industry.
I also do not think the cheaper running backs that you mention come with the talent upside as the ones I would draft high, I also think running back is one of the tougher jobs in the NFL on the body and having a young, hungry under paid athlete is a good thing.
I don't know dude this is tough for sure, I think we can both agree we want to find some studs, so that we can get back to the dance. We need more hits and less misses, I still have faith in Pete and John... I think / hope they worked past the talent acquisition rough point and are hitting there stride. Lasts years draft class has some promise
Injuries have taking some of the wind from the sails of the last two drafts but they show promise since they tightened up there draft illegible requirements. The real problem is the years prior where it was all optimism and less strict to make it on there draft board.
Here is hoping they find us some difference makers whatever the position.
I am flaky .. I just remembered Zack Baun he is another even though he has been injured that seems like he has a chance that if we had to pick at 27 would make me happy... I have been up too long .. need sleep... peace.
..... damn almost a week away.