SoulfishHawk
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Nah, one thing has become crystal clear: Some people are not happy unless they are mad about something.
To each his/her own.
To each his/her own.
2021 Draft RD 2 PK 56 WR D'wayne Eskridge, W Michigan
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It’s an addiction. I read an article about it.SoulfishHawk":2qlhszld said:
People who vent in public forums seek relevance. By reacting, either positively or negatively, you give them affirmation that they matter and the cycle continues. You can say don’t feed the trolls, but we all do it. The choice lies in whether you post to contribute or post to antagonize.
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Good points
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https://youtu.be/TS3LzB-ZCoY
Dude seems to catch with his hands, he also faced lots of double teaming.
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Dude seems to catch with his hands, he also faced lots of double teaming.
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4.35-40 You can't teach that kind of speed. 5-9 190 pounds he's no P-Rich he's got some meat on him. I think Golden Tate type talent is very possible. This is not a selection to be upset about.
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toffee":1xggwhjl said:
Love how smoothly and securely he catches and the way his catches often seem to ignite his quick and elusive runs. If he keeps catching like that in the pros, he'll soon be the envy of 31 other clubs.
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Ruminator":1ongdqon said:
I heard the Rams were planning on taking him with their pick right after us.
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I like the pick.
His film is really interesting, he doesn't look like he's running fast, but he's fast.
He also looks 100% in control of his body, none of the Harvin bumbling around. That was a nice block he threw on that film clip.
And he also looks VERY competitive, something that always bothered me about Moore and Swain. That I like. Aggressive like Tate, but more of a grounded and in control player. Someone who knows how to be grounded and secure the ball. Doesn't take unnecessary risks, but does take some if he knows he's got a shot at making a play. I wouldn't be surprised if he is #3 over Swain come the start of the season.
I like the pick, as far as where he's picked, seems about right. Didn't do any analysis on CB or OL that were left, and the last OL we took early was Ifedi right? I think the Seahawks are just kind of broken at drafting early OL. That Stone Forsythe looks like a good OL pick though. So yeah, the Eskridge pick works. Wouldn't be surprised either if he has an 800+ multi-purpose yard season (RB/WR)
His film is really interesting, he doesn't look like he's running fast, but he's fast.
He also looks 100% in control of his body, none of the Harvin bumbling around. That was a nice block he threw on that film clip.
And he also looks VERY competitive, something that always bothered me about Moore and Swain. That I like. Aggressive like Tate, but more of a grounded and in control player. Someone who knows how to be grounded and secure the ball. Doesn't take unnecessary risks, but does take some if he knows he's got a shot at making a play. I wouldn't be surprised if he is #3 over Swain come the start of the season.
I like the pick, as far as where he's picked, seems about right. Didn't do any analysis on CB or OL that were left, and the last OL we took early was Ifedi right? I think the Seahawks are just kind of broken at drafting early OL. That Stone Forsythe looks like a good OL pick though. So yeah, the Eskridge pick works. Wouldn't be surprised either if he has an 800+ multi-purpose yard season (RB/WR)
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K.J WRIGHT":2v9mlpez said:
That end to end sprint against the Cards will be in every highlight video that talks about never giving up on a play. I don’t see how you can say that just from that one play alone.
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K.J WRIGHT":3klt9ohb said:
You brag about your talent evaluation being pro level, and then you drop this doozy on us?
Oof
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BASF":guslo1pg said:
Finally! Somebody gets it! Iupati was THE reason for the OLines problems! Why they put him in there was beyond me!
Wyman said Duane would come off the field pissed off because Iupati was missing basic stunts, easy hand offs!
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Wow, with years of experience, multiple seasons of all pro and pro bowls. Iupati lack football IQ?ivotuk":32rmcb5c said:
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Funny how that multiple seasons/injuries thing works. The football IQ drops bigtime when you can't move anymore. Thinking about what you WANT/NEED to do isn't the same thing as doing it.
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While there are great fans on this site actual football knowledge is limited. I was banned on my original account for saying Russ would be the goat Hawks QB after his pre-season week 3 performance his rookie year. All the Flynn and Hasselbeck fans got mad and reported me. DK was a scrub to many here.... now look at him. Funny how these things happen around here. I’m sure most know far more than Pete and JS.... when the hawks open the next armchair GM or coach position we have a lot of potential applicants.
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Scientist,
You were banned from saying that Wilson was going to be our best QB ever?
What?
Not to veer off topic, but how? What would be the rationale for banning someone saying that?
On Eskridge, I have no idea. We need the depth. He looked pretty good at the Senior Bowl. I am a believer that guys that show out in the Senior Bowl often do well in the NFL as they are already playing well against some of the best in college.
But his film is weird.
His #s say he is fast. But you watch him and he does not look fast.
I realize that means he has straight line speed but his quickness looks pretty average. When someone 'looks' fast it often the quickness and his acceleration isn't standing out. His hands look great though.
So does an average acceleration WR that is undersized but has great straight line speed make sense for a team where the coach is so run committed? I like it because smaller guys make it harder to block, so you almost have to get away from the run because your small WRs won't usually be great blocking wideouts.
But ??
Cautiously optimistic though since these are the kind of picks that end up working out for us.
You were banned from saying that Wilson was going to be our best QB ever?
What?
Not to veer off topic, but how? What would be the rationale for banning someone saying that?
On Eskridge, I have no idea. We need the depth. He looked pretty good at the Senior Bowl. I am a believer that guys that show out in the Senior Bowl often do well in the NFL as they are already playing well against some of the best in college.
But his film is weird.
His #s say he is fast. But you watch him and he does not look fast.
I realize that means he has straight line speed but his quickness looks pretty average. When someone 'looks' fast it often the quickness and his acceleration isn't standing out. His hands look great though.
So does an average acceleration WR that is undersized but has great straight line speed make sense for a team where the coach is so run committed? I like it because smaller guys make it harder to block, so you almost have to get away from the run because your small WRs won't usually be great blocking wideouts.
But ??
Cautiously optimistic though since these are the kind of picks that end up working out for us.
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TwistedHusky":2iylbwup said:
They said I was trolling. Funny thing is I was right.
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TwistedHusky":2negsvch said:
We were twenty-fourth in the league in rushing attempts after removing runs by the quarterback when a pass play broke down in 2020. I am not willing to go through the film for 2019 to get the real number for that year as it takes more time than I have nowadays. However, Wilson had 75 runs, and I guarantee you that maybe ten of those were actual rushing attempts. Which would put us at the middle of the league for rushing attempts. The run committed comments are incorrect and tiresome for the past few seasons.
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ImTheScientist":2wavr4m8 said:
And some said Eddie Lacy would be the best RB in Seattle's recent history...
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Here's a link to an article from Jim Nagy, who runs the Senior Bowl and was former Seahawk scout, discussing Eskridge and Brown.
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1382...ahawks-better-faster-with-eskridge-and-brown/
He seems to have the opinion they were great picks and will fit in nicely with Seahawks.
https://sports.mynorthwest.com/1382...ahawks-better-faster-with-eskridge-and-brown/
He seems to have the opinion they were great picks and will fit in nicely with Seahawks.
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BASF,
The 'commitment to the run' comments are from Carroll himself. But I agree, they are tiresome.
I am tired of watching us force a middling run game when we have one of the better WR groups and one of the best QBs in the league. Trotting out #s does not tell the whole story, so it makes no sense to jump on that carousel with you - but numbers IN CONTEXT matter. Data in aggregate does not.
(There have been literally multiple page long threads on this site covering how Carroll's predilections in this regard make little sense...feel free to check those)
What is salient is that our greatest strengths are for the passing game not the running game. (Though Carson is stellar) so resources to facilitate more use of our greatest advantages seem to be a good direction for us.
And anything that makes running harder for Carroll to try to force is fine by me. An undersized WR usually isn't a great blocking WR (not always, Tate was fantastic and he was not big).
Regardless, the #s tend to be roughly that 1 in 3 picks are going to work out for us. If even 2 of these 3 picks end up contributing to the team, that is a win.
On paper, and watching the film, this pick makes little sense to me. But it feels like the same kind of pick we tend to be winners on so I am going to assume this ends up being one of our good picks when we look back on it later.
The 'commitment to the run' comments are from Carroll himself. But I agree, they are tiresome.
I am tired of watching us force a middling run game when we have one of the better WR groups and one of the best QBs in the league. Trotting out #s does not tell the whole story, so it makes no sense to jump on that carousel with you - but numbers IN CONTEXT matter. Data in aggregate does not.
(There have been literally multiple page long threads on this site covering how Carroll's predilections in this regard make little sense...feel free to check those)
What is salient is that our greatest strengths are for the passing game not the running game. (Though Carson is stellar) so resources to facilitate more use of our greatest advantages seem to be a good direction for us.
And anything that makes running harder for Carroll to try to force is fine by me. An undersized WR usually isn't a great blocking WR (not always, Tate was fantastic and he was not big).
Regardless, the #s tend to be roughly that 1 in 3 picks are going to work out for us. If even 2 of these 3 picks end up contributing to the team, that is a win.
On paper, and watching the film, this pick makes little sense to me. But it feels like the same kind of pick we tend to be winners on so I am going to assume this ends up being one of our good picks when we look back on it later.
