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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:40 pm
  • Smurf wrote:Numerous reports. $10 million is the amount.

    $10 million? Huh? :shock:

    It is way too much for an unproven player. I've heard that Roma just made an offer of 2M€ which is equivalent to $3M.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:44 pm
  • Nog wrote:
    Smurf wrote:Numerous reports. $10 million is the amount.

    $10 million? Huh? :shock:

    It is way too much for an unproven player. I've heard that Roma just made an offer of 2M€ which is equivalent to $3M.




    Will be well over $3m...

    Andy Najar transfered out of MLS for $3M, and Yedlin is 4 times the player Najar is.

    $10M seems high, but within the realm of possibility.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:47 pm
  • Smurf wrote:
    Nog wrote:
    Smurf wrote:Numerous reports. $10 million is the amount.

    $10 million? Huh? :shock:

    It is way too much for an unproven player. I've heard that Roma just made an offer of 2M€ which is equivalent to $3M.




    Will be well over $3m...

    Andy Najar transfered out of MLS for $3M, and Yedlin is 4 times the player Najar is.

    $10M seems high, but within the realm of possibility.

    Don't forget that a winger is more valuable than a defender. For instance, my club Marseille overpaid a spanish player few years ago named Azpilicueta for over 8M€ (otherwise, I don't think we woulda win this bid). Later on, we had to sell him because of our financial situation. We could only sell him 7,5M€ to Chelsea, and he happened to become starter in the Spanish national team.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:53 pm
  • Anyway, BBC announced that Lille and Liverpool have just made an agreement for Origi. Liverpool apparently purchased Origi for 12.5M€, and will loan the player for this upcoming year.

    I mean... Seriously???? 12.5M€ for Origi????

    :187734: :lol:
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:58 am
  • I get what youre saying but prices in players mean little in reality. Its the valuation set by the club against what others are willing to pay for a player. No one has "overpaid" for a player until that player has not worked out. The rest is simply gnashing on like its a video game.

    Price I heard for Origi is 6 not 12.5. And who would care either way. Is Suarez worth 90? In your example Az is currently worth far more than 8 (probably closer to 18-20) which makes the positional valuation less important tgan his development plus the sudden surge on "wingbacks". Luke Shaw just went for 30...and he's 19 years old. United had to pay it and did. Was a good buy.

    Liverpool want him. So they are paying what's needed. Lukakus probably worth 25 at this point and Origi was preferred over him by Belgium. There's something there. My only concern is loaning him back as we are desperately thin at striker (unless the plan is to buy someone else or keep Borini and Aspas). Anyways I like what saw if Origi.

    This isn't the NFL with salary caps and all. FFP hasn't quite sunk in yet so outside of a teams own budget there's little holding them back
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:24 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Gate, all of the Sanchez stuff that's flying around at the minute is just pure rumor and speculation. Sanchez has said he's not keen on England, so we'll see what happens. I reckon Chelsea will probably swoop in at the last and snatch him up, to be honest. Him and Costa would be devastating up front together, and Chelsea needs strikers.


    Of course it's all rumors and speculation, but it's tough to ignore them when seemingly every media outlet is reporting the same thing. In my mind this won't be overwith until the 10th, when Arsenal and Puma reveal the new kit, at the earliest. I saw someone make the joke that Sanchez would be part of the kit reveal and that would be an interesting way to confirm a signing if they actually did it.

    I really doubt Chelsea will come in and swipe Sanchez's signature, because that would literally be last second, and I don't see that happening out of thin air. It would prove my theory though, that Chelsea only signs some players so other teams can't do so and can't attempt to improve their squad as a result. I don't even think Chelsea actually need someone like Sanchez.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:10 am
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Gate, all of the Sanchez stuff that's flying around at the minute is just pure rumor and speculation. Sanchez has said he's not keen on England, so we'll see what happens. I reckon Chelsea will probably swoop in at the last and snatch him up, to be honest. Him and Costa would be devastating up front together, and Chelsea needs strikers.


    Of course it's all rumors and speculation, but it's tough to ignore them when seemingly every media outlet is reporting the same thing. In my mind this won't be overwith until the 10th, when Arsenal and Puma reveal the new kit, at the earliest. I saw someone make the joke that Sanchez would be part of the kit reveal and that would be an interesting way to confirm a signing if they actually did it.

    I really doubt Chelsea will come in and swipe Sanchez's signature, because that would literally be last second, and I don't see that happening out of thin air. It would prove my theory though, that Chelsea only signs some players so other teams can't do so and can't attempt to improve their squad as a result. I don't even think Chelsea actually need someone like Sanchez.



    Here's my point though, and follow me a bit..

    Most of this stuff, and I mean nearly 99%, is purely fabricated.

    Let's take a look at a typical rumour...

    Find a club (Liverpool). What does that club need (attacker). find an attacker (Sanchez) and come up with a reason he could leave (Messi hates him...or in the case of most United targets, Van Gaal coached them, etc. etc.)

    @LFCITK.. been told Liverpool keen on Barca wantaway Sanchez.

    Now, find a competing club with similar attributes (Arsenal, Tottenham). Do either need similar player (Arsenal). restart rumour

    @AFCITK... Sanchez tipped for shock Arsenal swoop. Been told he prefers to London life.

    is this not how all this went down? you can follow the same for nearly all of these rumours (nearly). Now, Sanchez may end up at Arsenal (how dow we know he "he prefers London life?" who is talking to him? hell, i read someone tweet his wife is a big shopper so it had to be London. Christ on a bike) he may end of at Liverpool. He may go to Juventus (look, lets do this one too, @JuveITK... been told Sanchez has heart set on joining Chile teammates at Juve. Juve keen, barca await bid)

    Its all made up. As far as anyone knows, Sanchez is still a part of Barca's plans. They seem ready to sell, but we've heard nothing from them, or him, just people who've "been told". Regardless of the media outlets this isnt the journalism of days long ago. Think 1000 Jay Glazers with foreign accents and no accountability. Even the BBC need clicks.

    Lets look at the done deals so far: Luke Shaw, Adam Lallana: both clubs made official bids. thats when the news came out. Lambert's signing came from nowhere. Emre Can? Noone had even heard of him, next thing you know he's agreeing personal terms. Liverpool are close to signing Origi and Markovich? Where the hell did they come from? Its been Sanchez 24/7.

    When its real, we really have no access to inside info. Media dont know f--- all until the club tells them. Its all fun, and great times putting rosters together of potential targets, bit not worth taking seriously.

    Sanchez may end up at Arsenal. He may go to Liverpool or Juventus or hell he may just stay at Barca. What we do know is this... not a thing.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Mon Jul 07, 2014 3:56 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:I get what youre saying but prices in players mean little in reality. Its the valuation set by the club against what others are willing to pay for a player. No one has "overpaid" for a player until that player has not worked out. The rest is simply gnashing on like its a video game.

    Price I heard for Origi is 6 not 12.5. And who would care either way. Is Suarez worth 90? In your example Az is currently worth far more than 8 (probably closer to 18-20) which makes the positional valuation less important tgan his development plus the sudden surge on "wingbacks". Luke Shaw just went for 30...and he's 19 years old. United had to pay it and did. Was a good buy.

    Liverpool want him. So they are paying what's needed. Lukakus probably worth 25 at this point and Origi was preferred over him by Belgium. There's something there. My only concern is loaning him back as we are desperately thin at striker (unless the plan is to buy someone else or keep Borini and Aspas). Anyways I like what saw if Origi.

    This isn't the NFL with salary caps and all. FFP hasn't quite sunk in yet so outside of a teams own budget there's little holding them back

    It seriously depends upon whether you got money to spend or not. Clubs like Marseille don't have a margin to make errors concerning transfers. For instance, we have already spent all of our money into 2 players: Alessandrini and Batshuayi. Consequently, we can't really afford to overpay players.

    Plus, clubs have criteria to estimate players' value such as age, contract (how long remaining), position, demand, image... Suarez is worth 90M€ because he is considered like a top players, plus he is a striker; therefore, he is even more valuable. Now, if you wanna get a good striker (even though he is unproven in Europe yet) you got to spend at least 20M€. I still remembered that Marseille tried to recruit Leandro Damiao. His club, International SC, demanded 20M€.

    Furthermore, Shaw and Azpi are proven players now, and they are youngsters. I was comparing to Yedlin who hasn't done anything YET (hopefully, he will perform) in Europe. I guess his performance during this World Cup has alerted some clubs which explain his recent transfer (plus the fact that Roma and Liverpool have americans owners help).

    In the case of Origi, I was listening a french radio station a hour ago, and they explicitly mentioned that Origi was transferred for 14M€... And all of the journalist, who happened to be former players for some of them, were stunned. Hopefully, he will prove me wrong, but I haven't seen anything special from him.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:51 pm
  • So Now what you're saying is 10 million to one club looks like 20 million to another?

    Pretty much world football as we know it.

    AZ and Shaw are not proven. Exciting and high ceiling but not proven. Their worth is based on a valuation of what they could do over 5 years not one. Same with Origi... Bigger clubs can take those risks. Smaller ones need to be much more shrewd and smart (and lucky)...and then 5-6 clubs can spend 20 mill on backips
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:24 pm
  • When I'm saying that Shaw and Azpi are proven I meant they regularly played in their clubs. In fact, the risk is less important since clubs have a better sense/judgement of their levels. Besides, most of the clubs are reticent to transfer from other continents because they fear a time's adaptation. Neymar, for instance, hasn't played so well with Barcelona, yet he is a fantastic player. I don't think he adapts to the rigorist tactical scheme in Europe.

    Now, speaking of Origi, I just don't see anything special. I might be wrong, and honestly I don't watch all of Lille's game... Yeah last season, Lille's game was like watching an episode of Jersey Shore. You don't know how to react: either you wanna sleep or you wanna throw up.

    Plus, it is well known that Lille must sell players because they have debts, so Liverpool could have used this fact as a leverage. However, the sudden interest of Dortmund might have created this overbid.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:37 am
  • I do wonder about Origi. Its great to get your perspective. I think the costs being quoted in France are inflated given Liverpool seem willing to loan him back. I wonder if it includes his salary.

    Rodgers can't get these wrong given the Borini, Aspas, Alberto deals and loss of Suarez. If Origi is going back on loan I can't imagine his sunk cost is that much.

    Liverpool may be bigger than Lille, but we aren't City
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:42 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:I do wonder about Origi. Its great to get your perspective. I think the costs being quoted in France are inflated given Liverpool seem willing to loan him back. I wonder if it includes his salary.

    Rodgers can't get these wrong given the Borini, Aspas, Alberto deals and loss of Suarez. If Origi is going back on loan I can't imagine his sunk cost is that much.

    Liverpool may be bigger than Lille, but we aren't City

    His salary? Haven't heard much about this! But you know his salary doesn't excess 30k€/mouth (not sure about this).
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:43 am
  • Still pops up on Liverpool board. He will go to a coach who utilizes the wing back approach. Not many do though. Arsenal, Liverpool, Southampton, Everton and Swansea are the most reflective of his strengths in my opinion.

    Now, which need him
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:48 am
  • Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:I do wonder about Origi. Its great to get your perspective. I think the costs being quoted in France are inflated given Liverpool seem willing to loan him back. I wonder if it includes his salary.

    Rodgers can't get these wrong given the Borini, Aspas, Alberto deals and loss of Suarez. If Origi is going back on loan I can't imagine his sunk cost is that much.

    Liverpool may be bigger than Lille, but we aren't City

    His salary? Haven't heard much about this! But you know his salary doesn't excess 30k€/mouth (not sure about this).


    Sometimes the transfer fees come across as the fee itself plus the players annual salary or add ons.

    For example, the Adam Lallana transfer was originally believed to be 25 million, but has since been revealed as 16 million plus add ons.

    Who knows really. again, for me, youre paying for what he might bring, not what he will. Luke Shaw is not worth 30 million next year, but he has the potential to be one of the best left backs in the world by the time he's 23. So United paid for his potential.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:08 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Sometimes the transfer fees come across as the fee itself plus the players annual salary or add ons.

    For example, the Adam Lallana transfer was originally believed to be 25 million, but has since been revealed as 16 million plus add ons.

    Who knows really. again, for me, youre paying for what he might bring, not what he will. Luke Shaw is not worth 30 million next year, but he has the potential to be one of the best left backs in the world by the time he's 23. So United paid for his potential.

    Hum I see. I've never heard something like this in France, but every country has its own practice when it comes down to transfer.

    I agree with you. Luke Shaw can become a prime player, so he is worth every penny :D Lucas Digne was sold 15M€ to PSG just after one complete year with Lille, which could appear a little bit overpaid. In fact, it is really not!
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:25 pm
  • Not that its a practice Nog, but just a sneaky way for media to blow stories out of proportion....
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Tue Jul 08, 2014 12:41 pm
  • Hum ok. Actually it could make sense!!! I remembered that Marseille and Lille had different interpretation concerning the transfer amount of Florian Thauvin. Seydoux (president and owner of Lille) loves to pretend he is a good deal maker.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:28 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:Now this is intriguing



    his shorts are too high


    he is quality though. its a weird fit for me. Hes a true winger, who can tuck in. its still not addressing Arsenal's primary need (another striker) and just adds to a place they are heavy (will he replace the role Podolski fills and play opposite Walcott? ox-cham?). Whats your ideal lineup with him in it Gate?

    but he's class (or was at Barca, decent in the World Cup)
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:28 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Gatehawk wrote:Now this is intriguing



    his shorts are too high


    he is quality though. its a weird fit for me. Hes a true winger, who can tuck in. its still not addressing Arsenal's primary need (another striker) and just adds to a place they are heavy (will he replace the role Podolski fills and play opposite Walcott? ox-cham?). Whats your ideal lineup with him in it Gate?

    but he's class (or was at Barca, decent in the World Cup)


    Well, if we go by if Arsenal sign the players rumored to be on the way in the last couple days this would be my XI:

    Szczesny
    Debuchy - Mertesacker(c) - Koscielny - Gibbs
    Ramsey - Ozil - Cazorla
    Walcott - Giroud - Sanchez


    Subs: Oxlade-Chamberlain, Podolski, Remy, Vermaelen, Jenkinson, Wilshere, Goalkeeper signing

    You could also alternate Arteta and Flamini at any given time. As long as the players stay healthy enough, the rotation in the midfield could be amazing and beneficial to the squad.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:05 pm
  • Szczesny
    Debuchy - Mertesacker(c) - Koscielny - Gibbs
    Ramsey - Ozil - Cazorla
    Walcott - Giroud - Sanchez


    hmmm... that squad lacks quite a bit of defensive integrity, to be honest, but should score. I think Arsenal's biggest concerns will be the health of these players (Walcott, Ox and Ramsey have missed significant time the last few seasons)

    and again, no suitable refresher for Giroud.

    is 25-30 mil on a winger really where Wenger wants to blow his budget?

    ive heard Khedira, which obviously adds the teeth to the middle. that makes for a better rotation of your mids. Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 2:21 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Szczesny
    Debuchy - Mertesacker(c) - Koscielny - Gibbs
    Ramsey - Ozil - Cazorla
    Walcott - Giroud - Sanchez


    hmmm... that squad lacks quite a bit of defensive integrity, to be honest, but should score. I think Arsenal's biggest concerns will be the health of these players (Walcott, Ox and Ramsey have missed significant time the last few seasons)

    and again, no suitable refresher for Giroud.

    is 25-30 mil on a winger really where Wenger wants to blow his budget?

    ive heard Khedira, which obviously adds the teeth to the middle. that makes for a better rotation of your mids. Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?


    You're smoking crack if you think Arsenal only has 30m to spend.

    Remy is close to signing which is exactly the type of scorer Arsenal need, he's twice the player Sturridge is.

    Arsenal's defence will be fine, players like Manolas are likely to come in. Vermaelen I think will go anyway.

    I know you copied Gatehawk but there is no way they play that front 6. Look for a more balanced midfield with a holding midfielder (Arteta / Flamini).
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:01 pm
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:You're smoking crack if you think Arsenal only has 30m to spend.

    Remy is close to signing which is exactly the type of scorer Arsenal need, he's twice the player Sturridge is.

    Arsenal's defence will be fine, players like Manolas are likely to come in. Vermaelen I think will go anyway.

    I know you copied Gatehawk but there is no way they play that front 6. Look for a more balanced midfield with a holding midfielder (Arteta / Flamini).

    :lol: :lol:

    You know Rémy played for Marseille, so I've seen him a lot. He is talented, and he also has a lack of work ethic which makes him erratic. You can see some flash sometimes yeah. What you just have said it is just hilarious! Sturridge is younger, and he scored 21 goals last year. That's something that Rémy has never done in his entire career.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:09 pm
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Szczesny
    Debuchy - Mertesacker(c) - Koscielny - Gibbs
    Ramsey - Ozil - Cazorla
    Walcott - Giroud - Sanchez


    hmmm... that squad lacks quite a bit of defensive integrity, to be honest, but should score. I think Arsenal's biggest concerns will be the health of these players (Walcott, Ox and Ramsey have missed significant time the last few seasons)

    and again, no suitable refresher for Giroud.

    is 25-30 mil on a winger really where Wenger wants to blow his budget?

    ive heard Khedira, which obviously adds the teeth to the middle. that makes for a better rotation of your mids. Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?


    You're smoking crack if you think Arsenal only has 30m to spend.

    Remy is close to signing which is exactly the type of scorer Arsenal need, he's twice the player Sturridge is.

    Arsenal's defence will be fine, players like Manolas are likely to come in. Vermaelen I think will go anyway.

    I know you copied Gatehawk but there is no way they play that front 6. Look for a more balanced midfield with a holding midfielder (Arteta / Flamini).


    Atleast you're consistent
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:12 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?

    Nope. The financial fair play only allows one big signing ;)
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:17 pm
  • Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?

    Nope. The financial fair play only allows one big signing ;)


    Arsenal's got a track record when it comes to doling out cash. Its not can they but will they. Or...I'm "smoking crack"
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:28 pm
  • That Arsenal team sheet would just be begging for a solid counter attacking team (like Liverpool). No defensive integrity in the middle of the park on that one. If they keep the 4-3-3 (and they will) they need to play a holding midfielder. They haven't gotten one to do the job since Song left.

    They need someone who can win the ball back, and then spray it to the wide players when needed. Defensive/Possession midfielder.

    If I was Arsenal I'd sign Arturo Vidal.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:37 pm
  • Smurf wrote:That Arsenal team sheet would just be begging for a solid counter attacking team (like Liverpool). No defensive integrity in the middle of the park on that one. If they keep the 4-3-3 (and they will) they need to play a holding midfielder. They haven't gotten one to do the job since Song left.

    They need someone who can win the ball back, and then spray it to the wide players when needed. Defensive/Possession midfielder.

    If I was Arsenal I'd sign Arturo Vidal.

    Yeah thats what i meant by lacking integrity. Not the back four but the front 6. Vidal or even Khedira..UKs right that Arteta would be the balance in that lineup as it stands.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:46 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Szczesny
    Debuchy - Mertesacker(c) - Koscielny - Gibbs
    Ramsey - Ozil - Cazorla
    Walcott - Giroud - Sanchez


    hmmm... that squad lacks quite a bit of defensive integrity, to be honest, but should score. I think Arsenal's biggest concerns will be the health of these players (Walcott, Ox and Ramsey have missed significant time the last few seasons)

    and again, no suitable refresher for Giroud.

    is 25-30 mil on a winger really where Wenger wants to blow his budget?

    ive heard Khedira, which obviously adds the teeth to the middle. that makes for a better rotation of your mids. Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?


    It might be tough to remember but, if you exclude those 4 away games, Arsenal only conceded 21 goals in the EPL. The key is for the defense to show up in the big matches. They do have a decent defensive integrity, the trick is to maintain focus and composure for these guys.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:04 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Smurf wrote:That Arsenal team sheet would just be begging for a solid counter attacking team (like Liverpool). No defensive integrity in the middle of the park on that one. If they keep the 4-3-3 (and they will) they need to play a holding midfielder. They haven't gotten one to do the job since Song left.

    They need someone who can win the ball back, and then spray it to the wide players when needed. Defensive/Possession midfielder.

    If I was Arsenal I'd sign Arturo Vidal.

    Yeah thats what i meant by lacking integrity. Not the back four but the front 6. Vidal or even Khedira..UKs right that Arteta would be the balance in that lineup as it stands.



    I like it when we agree Simon. :D
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:18 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Szczesny
    Debuchy - Mertesacker(c) - Koscielny - Gibbs
    Ramsey - Ozil - Cazorla
    Walcott - Giroud - Sanchez


    hmmm... that squad lacks quite a bit of defensive integrity, to be honest, but should score. I think Arsenal's biggest concerns will be the health of these players (Walcott, Ox and Ramsey have missed significant time the last few seasons)

    and again, no suitable refresher for Giroud.

    is 25-30 mil on a winger really where Wenger wants to blow his budget?

    ive heard Khedira, which obviously adds the teeth to the middle. that makes for a better rotation of your mids. Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?


    It might be tough to remember but, if you exclude those 4 away games, Arsenal only conceded 21 goals in the EPL. The key is for the defense to show up in the big matches. They do have a decent defensive integrity, the trick is to maintain focus and composure for these guys.


    Come on Gate...you know more about the game than that.

    Not tough at all...but you can't exclude 1/3rd of your goals conceded because it doesnt fit your narrative.

    Its not focus or composure in my opinion its players and setup. Arsenal are a possession based attacking team. They hold the ball to keep teams off balance. When faced with high pressing teams they struggled.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:45 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Nog wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Can Arsenal actually sanction two big signings?

    Nope. The financial fair play only allows one big signing ;)


    Arsenal's got a track record when it comes to doling out cash. Its not can they but will they. Or...I'm "smoking crack"

    I know. The voyeur loves to sneak into other clubs affairs (especially in france), and bet small amount of money for youngsters... For instance, they got Flamini for free. We were trying to loan Manquillo (a right back from Spain), and of course today, reports have released that Arsenal draw some interests on this player.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:29 am
  • Arsenal's fancy new ground is now paid off, they have significantly more funds available for transfers than previously.

    Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:30 am
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Arsenal's fancy new ground is now paid off, they have significantly more funds available for transfers than previously.

    Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.

    Of course he is...
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:06 am
  • Great start to the transfer window for Spurs as they have signed Lloris to an extension. To be honest, I was fairly certain he'd be off. I'm delighted he's not.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:16 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:Arsenal's fancy new ground is now paid off, they have significantly more funds available for transfers than previously.

    Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.

    Of course he is...


    Ah....you took the bait! He's been dropping that one in for a while now waiting for one of us to bite. Such an obvious troll, with an arbitrary comparison to a Liverpool striker. Oh well, haters gonna hate.


    Nah...I find it funny at this point. Clearly doesn't like Liverpool..or us "wannabe scouse" as he put it

    Lots of rumours today, including Bony. That's an interesting one.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:46 am
  • What's Ben Davies like? He's been linked fairly strongly with Spurs for ages and I'd never even heard of him, let alone seen him play.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:00 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:What's Ben Davies like? He's been linked fairly strongly with Spurs for ages and I'd never even heard of him, let alone seen him play.


    Looks like Liverpool have an interest as well. Could just be paper talk (we've been linked with just about everyone)

    I'd rate Davies over most left backs at the moment. Peaches was fairly spot on in his brief assessment. He's also quite capable with the ball at his feet
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:03 am
  • Thanks fellas. Left back is Spurs' #1 priority, so whoever it ends up being, I hope they get a good one. For the love of God, no more Danny Rose, please.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:30 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:Thanks fellas. Left back is Spurs' #1 priority, so whoever it ends up being, I hope they get a good one. For the love of God, no more Danny Rose, please.


    Pretty much how I feel about our RB and Glen Johnson, but apparently we are in for every left back on the planet. maybe its a smokescreen...
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:00 pm
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Remy is a far superior finisher to Sturridge.

    Yeah probably in Fifa :lol:
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:05 pm
  • Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:32 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

    .


    They havent though have they? Barca are only going to that in instalments plus performance based payments. The fee will most likely be much nearer 60m with Liverpool trying to save face by quoting the performance based stuff. Todays upheld appeal won't have helped their position in the slightest.

    He's damaged goods.
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:38 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

    In other news, it looks like Sanchez to Arsenal is complete. Congratulations, Gate, that is a monster signing. Should be great for you guys. HOWEVER - we all said the same about Giroud and Ozil, so take that as you will. Sanchez is quality, but will he adapt well? I actually hope so, I want to see the world's best players flourish in the PL, plus iron sharpens iron, we need PL teams to do better in the CL.



    maybe he stays....(i'm not opposed to it to be honest. I'd have him for one more year, even with the suspension)

    Giroud had a fine year... just was asked too much of. it finally wore him down. Maybe the same with Ozil. Arsenal are definately stronger (although Sanchez to me represents more of the same of what they already have. He may show me wrong under a different badge. It will be interesting for sure. still... very good player and was really hoping he would be part of the Suarez sale)

    I think (and who knows really what he's doing) that UK sees Remy as joining Arsenal to give Giroud a breather here and there. makes sense. He's relatively cheap, French, and talented.... and apparently the best finisher in the Prem. Maybe Liverpool will give him a look.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2636808/Loic-Remy-holds-talks-Liverpool-Arsenal-mounts-QPR-striker.html
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:46 pm
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

    .


    They havent though have they? Barca are only going to that in instalments plus performance based payments. The fee will most likely be much nearer 60m with Liverpool trying to save face by quoting the performance based stuff. Todays upheld appeal won't have helped their position in the slightest.

    He's damaged goods.



    youre right, he's not one of the 3-4 best players in the world..

    you are good at this. i'll give you that. just a bit too obvious, you're getting lazy
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:48 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:
    Nog wrote:Btw, Suarez appeal was rejected which is now a real issue for Barça. Anyway, this is really good deal for Liverpool! :th2thumbs:


    Yep, I posted the same above. Looks like both sides have agreed on 75 million pounds (funny that, eh UK_Seahawk?), but the sticking point is in how the payment will be structured. Barca want to pay in installments, Liverpool want the lot up front.

    .


    They havent though have they? Barca are only going to that in instalments plus performance based payments. The fee will most likely be much nearer 60m with Liverpool trying to save face by quoting the performance based stuff. Todays upheld appeal won't have helped their position in the slightest.

    He's damaged goods.


    Nope. Liverpool don't have to sell him unless the release clause of 75 million is met. You're reaching pretty far here, UK.



    love how we have to somehow "save face" in selling a player we dont have to sell... i dont even feel like's hes trying anymore.

    by the way, excited to see Markovic... kids a real talent. Would imagine we bring in one of Griezmann (new link) or Shaqiri type player, plus a new LB/RB (maybe both?) and CB

    lots of changes...or Suarez stays
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Re: 2014 Summer Transfer Window
Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:27 pm
  • Roma, Napoli, Inter Milan and Anderlhect are reportedly the top 4 in the Yedlin Sweepstakes.


    I'd be Ok with Yedlin watching Maicon for a year and then stepping into the first team at Milan.
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