Still the best in the NFC WEST

[94Smith]

All the more reason you won't be able to hold on to all of them. Bosa is a UFA after next season, unless he signs what is expected to be the highest non-QB contract in the league.

Luckily, you don't have a large QB contract to worry about for a couple of years.

cap space for 2023:
49ers $13,508,847
Seahawks - $50,930,151

In 2023, the Seahawks have 4 picks in the top 52, including the number 5 pick. The 49ers have none in the first 98 (they have the 99 and 100 picks at the end of the third round). The Seahawks will pick 5 players (barring trades) before the 49ers pick one.

I'm assuming Jimmy G will head for greener pastures. I expect Purdy (who was impressive, for sure) to be out most of next year. I could be wrong, but it's what I expect. Trey Lance could be good, I think the jury is still out there - just not enough played time to have a good read on him. But a 55% completion percentage thus far in his career doesn't make me predict amazing things.

The 49ers could very well be better than the Seahawks next year, if they can get a QB both playing well and staying healthy. I wouldn't place large amounts of money on it - I think (and hope) the Seahawks are on an upward trajectory. But for the long term? If this upcoming draft class is even close to last year's class (and draft position would improve the odds there), we should see the Hawks fielding a very competitive team in 2023. And really, a couple of players in the right places to even get the defense to "average" and we'll see lots of battles for the NFC West over the next few years.

I would place money that the 49ers record is better than the Seahawks next year but none of you have taken me up on the offer. It seems you like to think they will be better and like to talk about how the 49ers window is closing but seem to not be able to explain thoroughly why other than cap space and 29 year old players. Look at our free agents this year and tell me who is the huge loss? Look at the draft picks in 2024.

3 years from now sure, but 2023 will be similar results for the 49ers barring an injury season like 2020

 

[94Smith]

Looks like Rodgers says Nooooooo to San Fran lol

Could not afford his bloated contract

 

[Torc]

I would place money that the 49ers record is better than the Seahawks next year but none of you have taken me up on the offer. It seems you like to think they will be better and like to talk about how the 49ers window is closing but seem to not be able to explain thoroughly why other than cap space and 29 year old players. Look at our free agents this year and tell me who is the huge loss? Look at the draft picks in 2024.

3 years from now sure, but 2023 will be similar results for the 49ers barring an injury season like 2020

I'm not saying the 49ers window is closing, I'm saying the Seahawks are only improving. Again, I expect the 49ers will still be better in the 2023 season - your defense is no joke and that'll keep you in games and winning a lot of them.

But who is behind center opening day? Trey Lance just isn't going to strike terror into opposing teams.

 

[James in PA]

Lets not forget that the Niners ended up with their best player, Roid Bosa, due to having a 4-12 record the year before. The Seahawks will never have the opportunity to draft that high without trading up. Hell, we couldn't even draft that high with RW sh!tting the bed all year in Denver.

 

[SeAhAwKeR4life]

Could not afford his bloated contract

You have to admit, Purdy's injury and the team's commitment to let Jimmy G go, still puts a lot of questions in your team's immediate future...

I doubt anyone will admit, but the 49er schedule was also arguably, one of the softest in the league.

 

[James in PA]

I doubt anyone will admit, but the 49er schedule was also arguably, one of the softest in the league.

So was Philly's, and here they are in the Owl. Even their playoff run has been a cakewalk: bye week, Giants, and a team with literally no QB.

 

[BASF]

So was Philly's, and here they are in the Owl. Even their playoff run has been a cakewalk: bye week, Giants, and a team with literally no QB.

Based on what exactly? The Eagles played Detroit (1 game out of the playoffs), Vikings (playoff team), Jags (playoff team), Cowboys twice (playoff team), Steelers (over .500 1 game out of the playoffs), Commanders (1 game out of the playoffs), Packers (1 game out of the playoffs), Titans (1 game out of the playoffs), Giants twice (playoff team). That is a lot of teams that were in the playoffs or if the Eagles slipped against them would have been in the playoffs. Sure, they faced a handful of cupcakes, but who didn't this season?

 

[SeAhAwKeR4life]

So was Philly's, and here they are in the Owl. Even their playoff run has been a cakewalk: bye week, Giants, and a team with literally no QB.

Agreed about the post season, but no, Philly's regular season was legit.

 

[bigskydoc]

I would place money that the 49ers record is better than the Seahawks next year but none of you have taken me up on the offer. It seems you like to think they will be better and like to talk about how the 49ers window is closing but seem to not be able to explain thoroughly why other than cap space and 29 year old players. Look at our free agents this year and tell me who is the huge loss? Look at the draft picks in 2024.

3 years from now sure, but 2023 will be similar results for the 49ers barring an injury season like 2020

It all depends on what happens with your QB situation. If you have a full season of a healthy Purdy, I see you taking the West, in a tight battle. Your biggest ooffseason losses look to be on the coaching side.

I just think people are being too optimistic on his recovery.

If y'all are rolling with Purdy and Lance, I think the Hawks will take it.

I will say that the schedule slightly favors the Niners (given what we know at this point) You have home against Bengals, and Ravens while we have them as away games. We get Eagles at home, and you get them away.

I'm not convinced that you getting the Bucs, Jags, and Vikings is significantly different than us facing the Lions, Titans, and Panthers, even though this year's record would suggest otherwise.

 

[Jac]

Arik and Kittle are just turning 30 this fall. I think that is reaching

Also as I mentioned before Kelce is 33 and guys like Cameron Jordan, Camero Heyward, Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham, JJ Watt all were in the 33-34 year range and productive this year

Maybe so. But you really need your QB situation to come together to complete against the top of the NFC/AFC this year (at the conference championship/SB level) because this is how rosters rapidly age out.

 

[FrodosFinger]

Yeah Kittle is great. He still has 3 or 4 years of elite play left barring injury. The 49ers main enemy is an aging expensive roster and no depth at O line or the quarterback position. Trey Lance is injury prone, can’t play in weather and when he has played he looks like he has no poise and panics under pressure and can’t run an efficient offense or throw well. He runs a 4.96 forty which many D linemen run yet most are faster. He has a noodle arm in the games I’ve seen him in. It was a poor move by Lynch to sacrifice that much draft capital in acquiring him. Lance is the type of talent you wait on til the 6th round for a project but to trade up for him was bizarre and one of the craziest reaches I’ve ever seen in my life

 

[Jac]

Yeah Kittle is great. He still has 3 or 4 years of elite play left barring injury. The 49ers main enemy is an aging expensive roster and no depth at O line or the quarterback position. Trey Lance is injury prone, can’t play in weather and when he has played he looks like he has no poise and panics under pressure and can’t run an efficient offense or throw well. He runs a 4.96 forty which many D linemen run yet most are faster. He has a noodle arm in the games I’ve seen him in. It was a poor move by Lynch to sacrifice that much draft capital in acquiring him. Lance is the type of talent you wait on til the 6th round for a project but to trade up for him was bizarre

The big thing working against Lance is that he hasn't played meaningful football since 2019, playing in only 19 college games overall and a handful of pro games. They can't really turn a SB roster over to him (or expect much to come from it). So the hope has to be that a QB (with an average-at-best arm) manages to come back from a UCL tear.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

It all depends on what happens with your QB situation. If you have a full season of a healthy Purdy, I see you taking the West, in a tight battle. Your biggest ooffseason losses look to be on the coaching side.

I just think people are being too optimistic on his recovery.

If y'all are rolling with Purdy and Lance, I think the Hawks will take it.

I will say that the schedule slightly favors the Niners (given what we know at this point) You have home against Bengals, and Ravens while we have them as away games. We get Eagles at home, and you get them away.

I'm not convinced that you getting the Bucs, Jags, and Vikings is significantly different than us facing the Lions, Titans, and Panthers, even though this year's record would suggest otherwise.

Purdy tore his UCL completely AND described textbook symptoms of injuring the ulnar nerve or funnybone within the ligament. How it felt like his arm was being pulled off with shocks going through it. Even if the original ligament can be saved, recovery to the point of full activities by camp is no guarantee.

If Lance comes in healthy and Purdy doesn’t, Lance will almost certainly get the start. He is much more a typical rookie, meaning he will screw up more in his first year as a starter while the 9ers finally see what they have in him.

 

[bigskydoc]

Purdy tore his UCL completely AND described textbook symptoms of injuring the ulnar nerve or funnybone within the ligament. How it felt like his arm was being pulled off with shocks going through it. Even if the original ligament can be saved, recovery to the point of full activities by camp is no guarantee.

If Lance comes in healthy and Purdy doesn’t, Lance will almost certainly get the start. He is much more a typical rookie, meaning he will screw up more in his first year as a starter while the 9ers finally see what they have in him.

It will be interesting to see how their schedule shakes out. If they get frontloaded with the tough games, they might not even make the playoffs. If the NFL does them a favor, they could get their QB situation sorted out in time to take the west.

 

[FrodosFinger]

It will be interesting to see how their schedule shakes out. If they get frontloaded with the tough games, they might not even make the playoffs. If the NFL does them a favor, they could get their QB situation sorted out in time to take the west.

I predict sharp regression and no playoffs. They’re in a very messy situation at quarterback and secondary and o line

 

[FrodosFinger]

I mean look at these cap hits

1. Trent Williams: $27.23 million
2. Arik Armstead: $23.99 million
3. Fred Warner: $18.53 million
4. George Kittle: $18.03 million
5. Nick Bosa: $17.86 million

 

[The Dirty Dozen Fan]

I predict sharp regression and no playoffs. They’re in a very messy situation at quarterback and secondary and o line

Which one of your predictions has been right so far ?

 

[94Smith]

I predict sharp regression and no playoffs. They’re in a very messy situation at quarterback and secondary and o line

You predict this yet don’t take my bet. Sounds like your prediction is more of a wish

 

[bileever]

I would place money that the 49ers record is better than the Seahawks next year but none of you have taken me up on the offer. It seems you like to think they will be better and like to talk about how the 49ers window is closing but seem to not be able to explain thoroughly why other than cap space and 29 year old players. Look at our free agents this year and tell me who is the huge loss? Look at the draft picks in 2024.

3 years from now sure, but 2023 will be similar results for the 49ers barring an injury season like 2020

I think that there is better than a 50% chance that the 49ers record in 2023 will be better than the Seahawks. As much as it pains me to say this, the 49ers' defense is just too good.

But I don't think it's a slam dunk. If you lose a couple of pieces through free agency or injury, and have uncertainty at the QB position, then I think it starts to become more of a question.

Shanahan is a mad scientist, and he isn't done innovating, but defenses are catching up to him, as they always adapt to innovations. If the offense isn't humming, then you're going to lose games 11-10, like you did to the Broncos last year.

Most of us are acknowledging that the 49ers are a really good team right now, but the NFL has a way of making it tough on the teams on top, and the 49ers are ripe for a fall while the Seahawks are ascending.

 

[Jac]

I think that there is better than a 50% chance that the 49ers record in 2023 will be better than the Seahawks. As much as it pains me to say this, the 49ers' defense is just too good.

But I don't think it's a slam dunk. If you lose a couple of pieces through free agency or injury, and have uncertainty at the QB position, then I think it starts to become more of a question.

Shanahan is a mad scientist, and he isn't done innovating, but defenses are catching up to him, as they always adapt to innovations. If the offense isn't humming, then you're going to lose games 11-10, like you did to the Broncos last year.

Most of us are acknowledging that the 49ers are a really good team right now, but the NFL has a way of making it tough on the teams on top, and the 49ers are ripe for a fall while the Seahawks are ascending.

I think that's fair. If the QB situation works out favorably for them (which is far from certain), they have a great chance to finish with a better record. But from theirs and our POV, who cares? The teams are in two different parts of the team building cycle. They need to be going for the SB now, and I think the QB keeps them short of Philadelphia, KC, Buffalo, Cincinnati (and they'll be a couple other risers in both conferences per usual).