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Didn't he do this before, say he was going to make a HUGE bet and then when the time came backed out and only put down a small percentage of what he said?

I mean, If the dude wants to change his mind..more power to him...but to bring all this attention to it/himself and to not go through with seems rather silly.

That and if I recall, he lost that bet (don't quote me on that).
 

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Todd Fuhrman ‏@ToddFuhrman 3h
Any sports betting information being reported by @Pregame_Steam regarding large SB wagers should be considered nothing more than rumors

Looks like the original source is a Twitter account potentially just using Floyd's name to get retweets/followers.
 

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lukerguy":2tdzbwdi said:
Hasselbeck":2tdzbwdi said:
HawkWow":2tdzbwdi said:
lsheldon":2tdzbwdi said:
The article was only posted an hour or so ago. It will take a bit of time for the spread to move, and they talked about that in the article (shockwaves). The Vegas number crunchers are probably huddled talking about it now deciding what to do.

I would like to see Paul Allen put some money down. It isn't like he can't afford it. Of course he hasn't taken shots to the head most of his life.

Wrong. they would move the line instantly. As Mayweather is placing that bet, they are stalling him and the guys behind the scenes are resetting the lines. By the time Mayweather and his entourage hit the front door, the line would have moved to Denver -6.

if they didn't ....they risk Juan Marquez coming in and putting another 10 mil on Denver. Then they have 20 mil to make up and would be forced to raise the line to Denver minus 10.

That's when Floyd and Juan walk right back in and bet 10 mil on Seattle. Hoping to catch the middle and winning both sides of the bet. That's the only way Vegas can lose big money and believe me, they are very keen to that fact (having it happen before).

Exactly why I don't buy this story for a second .. a 10 million dollar bet would immediately move the line .. even if its split up into 5 separate bets as this article reports.

The line has moved a few times since the original line, it's possible that the bet was placed a few days ago.

The line started at Seattle minus 1-2...depending on the book. "within 30 minutes so much money went down on Denver" they were forced to move the line to Denver -2 - 2.5 and it stays that way as I type.

Good thought, though...but the line has been steady since 30 minutes after it opened. Which is good for Vegas as it means they have achieved a number that is bringing in (close to) even action.
 

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SouthSoundHawk":3d3wnv2d said:
Didn't he do this before, say he was going to make a HUGE bet and then when the time came backed out and only put down a small percentage of what he said?

I mean, If the dude wants to change his mind..more power to him...but to bring all this attention to it/himself and to not go through with seems rather silly.

That and if I recall, he lost that bet (don't quote me on that).

Floyd is a blowhard...as you suggest. But as hardcore of a football fan as I am, I am into boxing about 100x more. I've been actually surprised by his willingness to put his money where his mouth is in showing his tickets before game time. I'm not suggesting he shows every ticket..but I've seen some million dollar bets that he won...as well as a couple he's lost. Saw him in the Kraft suite with Robert Kraft at a Pats game recently. IF he's going to continue this high stakes public display of betting, you can bet Kraft and others will be getting letters from Goodell sooner than later. Not good for the brand...and all that. And I totally agree.
 

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It's not a bet but I heard on the radio that the state of jersey can make about 60k if Payton wins it and only about 2k if Russell's team wins. it was something about State in come tax will be calculated by the percentage gained in bonuses.
 

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DavidSeven":2wqgle8n said:
Todd Fuhrman ‏@ToddFuhrman 3h
Any sports betting information being reported by @Pregame_Steam regarding large SB wagers should be considered nothing more than rumors

Looks like the original source is a Twitter account potentially just using Floyd's name to get retweets/followers.

I am relieved by this. That's how impressed I've been with Floyd's picks these days.
 

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HawkWow":1uxsh6t0 said:
SouthSoundHawk":1uxsh6t0 said:
Didn't he do this before, say he was going to make a HUGE bet and then when the time came backed out and only put down a small percentage of what he said?

I mean, If the dude wants to change his mind..more power to him...but to bring all this attention to it/himself and to not go through with seems rather silly.

That and if I recall, he lost that bet (don't quote me on that).

Floyd is a blowhard...as you suggest. But as hardcore of a football fan as I am, I am into boxing about 100x more. I've been actually surprised by his willingness to put his money where his mouth is in showing his tickets before game time. I'm not suggesting he shows every ticket..but I've seen some million dollar bets that he won...as well as a couple he's lost. Saw him in the Kraft suite with Robert Kraft at a Pats game recently. IF he's going to continue this high stakes public display of betting, you can bet Kraft and others will be getting letters from Goodell sooner than later. Not good for the brand...and all that. And I totally agree.

Thanks for that nice History lesson HW! Puts a little more perspective on his gambling habits.
 

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SouthSoundHawk":2izw4war said:
HawkWow":2izw4war said:
SouthSoundHawk":2izw4war said:
Didn't he do this before, say he was going to make a HUGE bet and then when the time came backed out and only put down a small percentage of what he said?

I mean, If the dude wants to change his mind..more power to him...but to bring all this attention to it/himself and to not go through with seems rather silly.

That and if I recall, he lost that bet (don't quote me on that).

Floyd is a blowhard...as you suggest. But as hardcore of a football fan as I am, I am into boxing about 100x more. I've been actually surprised by his willingness to put his money where his mouth is in showing his tickets before game time. I'm not suggesting he shows every ticket..but I've seen some million dollar bets that he won...as well as a couple he's lost. Saw him in the Kraft suite with Robert Kraft at a Pats game recently. IF he's going to continue this high stakes public display of betting, you can bet Kraft and others will be getting letters from Goodell sooner than later. Not good for the brand...and all that. And I totally agree.

Thanks for that nice History lesson HW! Puts a little more perspective on his gambling habits.

Anytime bro.

I hate to come off as a know it all and that is usually the way things work (!?) but believe me when I say impressing others is not my motivation.
 

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Not really a surprise, Floyd gambles pretty much all the time.

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Floyd Mayweather Heat Bet Ticket 060313L

Eather jr won 1 million on a college football game

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"Hmmm. Just checked the line and it hasn't budged. I'm calling BS on Floyd until he produces a photocopy of his ticket..as he usually does. A bet of that magnitude would have increased the spread significantly...perhaps as much as 3 pts. This wouldn't be the first time Floyd has been caught-out lying about stuff. Maybe the article should actually read "Floyd says he plans to bet $10,000,000 on Denver to beat the Hawks."

I know this guy loves his big bets... anyone have a history of his bets on sporting events?
 

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mackfan38":x92mh3ey said:
"Hmmm. Just checked the line and it hasn't budged. I'm calling BS on Floyd until he produces a photocopy of his ticket..as he usually does. A bet of that magnitude would have increased the spread significantly...perhaps as much as 3 pts. This wouldn't be the first time Floyd has been caught-out lying about stuff. Maybe the article should actually read "Floyd says he plans to bet $10,000,000 on Denver to beat the Hawks."

I know this guy loves his big bets... anyone have a history of his bets on sporting events?

I seem to recall him betting a million on Indy...can't recall the opponent, but I remember him sayin "Luck is my man". He did win that bet. It seems most of his big bets, just from memory, were in the 250 range but I also recall him winning one for 750. I sort've stopped keeping track because he kept winning. Took the fun out of it for me. ; )

To you Floyd fans. GREAT boxer. When I knock him, I am strictly referring to the out of ring Floyd. Where he is pretty much a tool. Inside the ring? Well, his greatness is not debatable, as much as it pains me to say.
 

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Thing is though.. you NEVER hear of Floyd's losing bets. The guy, per Vegas insiders, loses a LOT.. but when he hits a big ticket.. he's posting the stub on Instagram and boasting about how he's apart of the MONEY TEAM..

That said.. he likely bet or will bet on the Super Bowl.. but we won't know about it unless he wins. This $10M story is just a load of crap from someone trying to get clicks
 

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Is this another Incarcerated Bob fake effort?

Seem to remember a story online about one of ICB's many profiles spreading a rumour about Mayweather making ridiculous bets.

You can use google to find out why.
 

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brimsalabim":2vua1ozx said:
It's not a bet but I heard on the radio that the state of jersey can make about 60k if Payton wins it and only about 2k if Russell's team wins. it was something about State in come tax will be calculated by the percentage gained in bonuses.

Thats peanuts to what Vegas will make if Seattle wins, this line is begging for Denver money and the public doesn't make money on Vegas often. If they wanted even money they'd have pushed this line to 7 to deter Denver betting but that it hasn't a key number just screams that Vegas knows what its doing here. If Floyd did drop huge coin unless he was a great bettor it might not make a difference. a 20k bet from a sharp will move a line more than 2 million from a donkey with too much money on his hands.
 

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Hasselbeck":3h6ydu87 said:
Thing is though.. you NEVER hear of Floyd's losing bets. The guy, per Vegas insiders, loses a LOT.. but when he hits a big ticket.. he's posting the stub on Instagram and boasting about how he's apart of the MONEY TEAM..

That said.. he likely bet or will bet on the Super Bowl.. but we won't know about it unless he wins. This $10M story is just a load of crap from someone trying to get clicks

Don't mean to argue, bro...cuz the last thing I want to be guilty of is sticking up for Mayweather, but I have seen several of his bets pre-kick off and I've also seen him post losing tickets. But that shouldn't be of surprise. It's a money / gambling thing.

I made book for years and had many clients that bragged about losing almost as much as they bragged about winning(!). Took me a while to dial it in but the reason was they looked richer in losing than they did in winning. Seriously.

IE: "yeah, Green Bay pissed me off this weekend, missed a FG and cost me $20k".

They immediately appear very wealthy to whoever it is they are trying to impress by how casually they spoke of losing significant amounts of money. So to some degree, they win..LOL. It's a sickness. It's all a sickness. So when Mayweather speaks of such huge amounts, whether winning or losing, we naturally identify him as the money man. That's what matters most to Floyd.
 

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flmmkrz":3h7zso4j said:
brimsalabim":3h7zso4j said:
It's not a bet but I heard on the radio that the state of jersey can make about 60k if Payton wins it and only about 2k if Russell's team wins. it was something about State in come tax will be calculated by the percentage gained in bonuses.

Thats peanuts to what Vegas will make if Seattle wins, this line is begging for Denver money and the public doesn't make money on Vegas often. If they wanted even money they'd have pushed this line to 7 to deter Denver betting but that it hasn't a key number just screams that Vegas knows what its doing here. If Floyd did drop huge coin unless he was a great bettor it might not make a difference. a 20k bet from a sharp will move a line more than 2 million from a donkey with too much money on his hands.

OMG.
 

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HawkWow":2rcybq0c said:
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The article was only posted an hour or so ago. It will take a bit of time for the spread to move, and they talked about that in the article (shockwaves). The Vegas number crunchers are probably huddled talking about it now deciding what to do.

I would like to see Paul Allen put some money down. It isn't like he can't afford it. Of course he hasn't taken shots to the head most of his life.

Wrong. they would move the line instantly. As Mayweather is placing that bet, they are stalling him and the guys behind the scenes are resetting the lines. By the time Mayweather and his entourage hit the front door, the line would have moved to Denver -6.

if they didn't ....they risk Juan Marquez coming in and putting another 10 mil on Denver. Then they have 20 mil to make up and would be forced to raise the line to Denver minus 10.

That's when Floyd and Juan walk right back in and bet 10 mil on Seattle. Hoping to catch the middle and winning both sides of the bet. That's the only way Vegas can lose big money and believe me, they are very keen to that fact (having it happen before).
Bookies hedge their own action the same way--by laying bets off on other bookies. The smart ones do, anyway.
 

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One big bet like that out of the gate could change the line, since we don't know when yet I would assume it was early becasue of the shifty. Also Jordan is a gambler as well.
 

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Lords of Scythia":m64ae47v said:
HawkWow":m64ae47v said:
lsheldon":m64ae47v said:
The article was only posted an hour or so ago. It will take a bit of time for the spread to move, and they talked about that in the article (shockwaves). The Vegas number crunchers are probably huddled talking about it now deciding what to do.

I would like to see Paul Allen put some money down. It isn't like he can't afford it. Of course he hasn't taken shots to the head most of his life.

Wrong. they would move the line instantly. As Mayweather is placing that bet, they are stalling him and the guys behind the scenes are resetting the lines. By the time Mayweather and his entourage hit the front door, the line would have moved to Denver -6.

if they didn't ....they risk Juan Marquez coming in and putting another 10 mil on Denver. Then they have 20 mil to make up and would be forced to raise the line to Denver minus 10.

That's when Floyd and Juan walk right back in and bet 10 mil on Seattle. Hoping to catch the middle and winning both sides of the bet. That's the only way Vegas can lose big money and believe me, they are very keen to that fact (having it happen before).
Bookies hedge their own action the same way--by laying bets off on other bookies. The smart ones do, anyway.

The smaller casinos do religiously for a plethora of reasons. Books like Caesars, MGM, Mandalay etc. prefer to take all they can get (because they can due to heavier traffic) but they also cooperate as a network in readjusting lines. It's only good business to keep the number tight and that's why in the old days, guys like Lefty Rosenthal was responsible for all established lines for all casinos and the bigger casinos got preferential treatment and the rest waited their turn. Today, with computers and associated software, it's all quite instantaneous.

No. I'm not that old. I just know the history as told by the old, lol.
 

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