2 out of 3

[Meedsy]

In the war room Schneiz had 3 player cards on the table. After DGB was taken he took one off the table, tore it up and threw it in the trash. I would have to assume he was the guy we missed out on

 

[kearly]

After the drafts it seams like teams always praise the players they draft. They make claims like "such and such player is who we targeted all along".

I read nothing into JS or Petes comments.

They are have degrees in the art of the positive spin.

I love the independent thinking Tech.

JS doesn't pull this spiel every year though. He was relatively somber after the 2011, 2013, and 2014 drafts.

The players he's talked about as priorities in the past have turned out pretty good too. He's specifically named six players as priority predraft targets over the years: Earl Thomas, Bruce Irvin, Russell Wilson, Luke Willson, and now Clark and Lockett.

 

[kearly]

In the war room Schneiz had 3 player cards on the table. After DGB was taken he took one off the table, tore it up and threw it in the trash. I would have to assume he was the guy we missed out on

Was this shown on NFL Network's broadcast? How'd you see this?

For the record, I am 90% sure the 3rd player was DGB.

 

[Attyla the Hawk]

In the war room Schneiz had 3 player cards on the table. After DGB was taken he took one off the table, tore it up and threw it in the trash. I would have to assume he was the guy we missed out on

Was this shown on NFL Network's broadcast? How'd you see this?

For the record, I am 90% sure the 3rd player was DGB.

This was on the live seahawks.com video feed of their war room. I saw this happen as well. Also seemed to end all of his phone activity at that point.

Additionally spent a lot of time (presumably) at the big board. He went off camera right and seemed to be talking back to the scouts/Carroll.

Additionally was activity after Marpet was selected before us.

 

[Scottemojo]

DGB makes the most sense, just because he went 2 picks before the Atlanta pick was on the clock. Marpet makes sense because of his sparQ numbers.

However, Atlanta had gotten Beasley the day before, so I have to wonder if they would still have been after Irvin, or if some other player, a disgruntled Bennett perhaps, was on the block for that pick.

 

[kearly]

I think it's DGB. But I could understand the case for Fisher or Marpet. Both had exceptional Sparq scores.

 

[kearly]

DGB makes the most sense, just because he went 2 picks before the Atlanta pick was on the clock. Marpet makes sense because of his sparQ numbers.

This Atlanta theory would also explain why JS couldn't talk about it afterwards. Not only would the other team not appreciate having private details of a trade leaked, but if it involved a player who was almost traded, that's another thing they'd need to keep in house.

 

[DavidSeven]

I think DGB makes the most sense based on who was taken in the early and mid 2nd round (which is where Seattle would've traded up to).

Personally, I don't think JS is as invested in OL prospects (especially fully formed ones) and would be surprised if he categorized any specific one as a "must have." Those guys are Cable's picks, and they only become "must haves" when there's a run at that position.

 

[ctrcat]

I am actually think this had to do with us not trading with Atlanta. If we had traded Irvin and a 4th we might have been in position to get the 3rd guy we wanted.

It seems interesting that both picks before Atlanta's 2nd rounder got traded and both
of the big WR target DGB and Funchess that were speculated targets for the Seahawks were selected.

We they really considering drafting a big 6'5 WR and and still drafting a Return jitterbug type in Lockett? Everyhting else makes sense as a logical pick but imaging they had traded Irvin, but ended up with Funchess, Clark, and Lockett.

:hmmmm:
That's plausible.

Six teams were mentioned in the 2nd round trade before Atlanta's pick. Perhaps it was just bad luck that the Rams/Hawks logically wouldn't negotiate? I dunno. Here's an NFL.com article on what was happening in the Rams war room. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... liar-track

 

[mikeak]

DGB makes the most sense, just because he went 2 picks before the Atlanta pick was on the clock. Marpet makes sense because of his sparQ numbers.

However, Atlanta had gotten Beasley the day before, so I have to wonder if they would still have been after Irvin, or if some other player, a disgruntled Bennett perhaps, was on the block for that pick.

Saying 2 out of 3 indicates that it was Clark, Lockett and one other person.

So from that perspective to me I question DGB just because I don't think they would have both him and Lockett that high

 

[DavidSeven]

So from that perspective to me I question DGB just because I don't think they would have both him and Lockett that high

It wouldn't be that surprising if they primarily viewed DGB as an outside WR and Lockett as a return specialist. Fills two different needs.

 

[mikeak]

So from that perspective to me I question DGB just because I don't think they would have both him and Lockett that high

It wouldn't be that surprising if they primarily viewed DGB as an outside WR and Lockett as a return specialist. Fills two different needs.

True but then Norwood and Richardsson last year?

Wouldn't it be likelier that they would trade Irvin to Atlanta and go for a replacement player?

 

[jdemps]

Is he allowed to say who the third person is though? Might that be construed as tampering? :stirthepot:

 

[kearly]

So from that perspective to me I question DGB just because I don't think they would have both him and Lockett that high

It wouldn't be that surprising if they primarily viewed DGB as an outside WR and Lockett as a return specialist. Fills two different needs.

True but then Norwood and Richardsson last year?

Wouldn't it be likelier that they would trade Irvin to Atlanta and go for a replacement player?

As has been said, Atlanta spent their high first round pick on a pass rusher with similar qualities to Irvin, so it's unlikely they would have dealt their 2nd round pick for a package including Irvin at that point.

Norwood and Richardson were disappointments on red line targets, and neither projects to be anything special running deep routes outside. Norwood looked solid on short routes and Richardson looked fantastic on comebackers. Norwood I think is bubble player at this point. Richardson has a bright future as a move-the-sticks guy, but won't add much value in 2015. Neither guy is a big threat outside or can do much returning kicks, so they are not redundant with DGB or Lockett in those aspects.

Now with regards to DGB and Lockett, they basically would have totally different jobs. DGB would be the red line monster this team is in desperate need of, Lockett is a kick returner who might also pay some dividends as a scramble drill WR. One is suited to play outside, one is suited to be in the slot. There is zero redundancy between the two, and Seattle could have easily added two WRs with Walters signing elsewhere and Lockette being expendable.

 

[QuahHawk]

If they looked at Lockett as a returner then it makes sense.

 

[Scottemojo]

Is he allowed to say who the third person is though? Might that be construed as tampering? :stirthepot:

Teams mention who they wanted to take all the time.
It would have been embarrassing and would have led to uncomfortable questions.
If it was DGB, it might have led to questions about who they were going to trade to get up in that round. No way they want to get into that. Or worse, after mentioning DGB and actually taking Clark, domestic violence would have been an even bigger topic.

 

[randomation]

Betting it was either DGB or Marp. DGB they would have had to move up for but marp went 2 picks before

 

[TwilightError]

Could they really have thought to be in position to draft all three Clark, Lockett and DGB? Maybe if Clark had dropped significantly... Marpet or Morse seem more possible.

 

[QuahHawk]

Could they really have thought to be in position to draft all three Clark, Lockett and DGB? Maybe if Clark had dropped significantly... Marpet or Morse seem more possible.

If DGB had fallen a few more spots and we had got Atlanta's 2nd round pick straight up for Irvin, we could have gotten DGB and Clark. We might have been less agresive in trading up for Lockett but would still have had the ammo to do it.

 

[TwilightError]

Could they really have thought to be in position to draft all three Clark, Lockett and DGB? Maybe if Clark had dropped significantly... Marpet or Morse seem more possible.

If DGB had fallen a few more spots and we had got Atlanta's 2nd round pick straight up for Irvin, we could have gotten DGB and Clark. We might have been less agresive in trading up for Lockett but would still have had the ammo to do it.

Maybe, but I dont believe Atlanta would have given a 2nd for Irvin in his current contract situation.