Bennett still grumbling to the media

[Jazzhawk]

Honestly, the NFL gotta get rid of this rule that players are allowed to restructure deals. You sign a contract, own up to it dammit. Especially when you just signed it a year ago. It's honestly one of the most immature things.

Nfl teams constantly break contracts with players. Its a two way street.

Bullcrap. NFL teams play by the CBA rules the PLAYERS agreed to. Not one player claimed the rules were bad when they signed up for the deal back when they renewed the CBA. Not one. Nor did Bennett or Kam Chancellor say they thought they were getting a bad deal when they put their signature on the dotted line with the Seahawks a year or two ago.

 

[vin.couve12]

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I sure wish I could agree to work for someone for a set wage then demand more. He is a good player minus all the jump the snap false starts, the act however is getting stale.

People do it all the time. I've done it before myself. If you're a professional and exceed your paygrade you can ask for more money or even a different position before leaving the company. It's just called being damn good at what you do.

 

[scutterhawk]

He's one of the best D-Linemen in the league. I don't think he's worried about someone taking his job.

While that might be SOMEWHAT true, he has no business agreeing AND signing a LEGAL binding contract, and then, in just one SHORT Year later? snivel about wanting more. :177692:
The money that the Seahawks have left to pay the remaining players, is minute in comparison, especially when you consider how much the top 10 have devoured from the cap bankroll.
Kam Chancellor is far and away one of my most favorite Seahawks players, BUT!, he too needs to get his ass back to V-Mac and cut the shit.

 

[scutterhawk]

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I sure wish I could agree to work for someone for a set wage then demand more. He is a good player minus all the jump the snap false starts, the act however is getting stale.

People do it all the time. I've done it before myself. If you're a professional and exceed your paygrade you can ask for more money or even a different position before leaving the company. It's just called being damn good at what you do.

Just not true.
I was a meat cutter at Subase Bangor, and there were no TWO guys that could keep up with me, but I knew (going in) just what the pay scale was, and there was NO room for nonsensical demands.
I won a $350. cash award from the department of the Navy and a promise of Managerial placement for my production, but I had no balls to be making demands for ridiculous money.
I don't care how great you are, If these guys have no intention of living up to their contractual signatures, they're showing that they have no honor.

 

[vin.couve12]

People's personal experiences with how their own employer values their services, or lack there of, doesn't pertain. Calling out someone's honor here is.......wow. It's a one way contract and there's no honor involved. Ask McDaniel. It's employment, pure and simple. Desperate emotions are overriding far too many folks' reason and even decency here.

 

[themunn]

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I sure wish I could agree to work for someone for a set wage then demand more. He is a good player minus all the jump the snap false starts, the act however is getting stale.

People do it all the time. I've done it before myself. If you're a professional and exceed your paygrade you can ask for more money or even a different position before leaving the company. It's just called being damn good at what you do.

Just not true.
I was a meat cutter at Subase Bangor, and there were no TWO guys that could keep up with me, but I knew (going in) just what the pay scale was, and there was NO room for nonsensical demands.
I won a $350. cash award from the department of the Navy and a promise of Managerial placement for my production, but I had no balls to be making demands for ridiculous money.
I don't care how great you are, If these guys have no intention of living up to their contractual signatures, they're showing that they have no honor.

And that's the key part in bold. What's the worst thing that would have happened if you asked for a raise? You get told no. Fair enough - that's probably what's happening with Bennett here - the difference is that you could have said "OK, I will take my skills somewhere where they will pay me the amount I am worth".

Bennett can't do that, so he has to complain louder.

 

[brimsalabim]

"They pay certain people a lot of money, and other guys feel like they should be paid just as much as those guys because everybody contributes to the Super Bowls and the championships."

So everyone gets paid the same. Its a team right Bennett? Salary cap is $143.28 million

All 53 players get paid, $2,703,396. Even steven across the board. Fair?

So Bennett, we'll need to slash your pay by $3,296,603 for the year. Alright? Cool.

Nice.

 

[homerun1970]

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I sure wish I could agree to work for someone for a set wage then demand more. He is a good player minus all the jump the snap false starts, the act however is getting stale.

People do it all the time. I've done it before myself. If you're a professional and exceed your paygrade you can ask for more money or even a different position before leaving the company. It's just called being damn good at what you do.

Yes you can ask but how well would it work to go to the media etc? Where I have worked I can ask and have received raises. If however I was to apply the external pressur the athletes do or make the company wage structure public it wouldnt be wise.

 

[hawkfan68]

Bennett cracks me up. I find it ironic that he would be talking about the "NFL's middle class" losing jobs (from the Seahawks). Guys like Tony McDaniel, etc. Yet he was bitching about his contract and wanting more money in the offseason. So instead of helping guys like McDaniel, he wanted to add to the problem.

 

[Uncle Si]

Bennett cracks me up. I find it ironic that he would be talking about the "NFL's middle class" losing jobs (from the Seahawks). Guys like Tony McDaniel, etc. Yet he was bitching about his contract and wanting more money in the offseason. So instead of helping guys like McDaniel, he wanted to add to the problem.

Some assumption on my part, but I feel like Bennett's less concerned about the Seahawks front office and more concerned about the salary cap set up in the NFL. To that, I do understand his point.

Certain positions are paid alot more than others, despite the relatively similar physical rigors (and dangers) of each. Bennett's point seems to be to illustrate this gulf. In doing so, he's putting himself and his contract in direct comparison with Wilson's. But the point should transcend his specific team (and position) and apply across the board.

 

[WilsonMVP]

Honestly, the NFL gotta get rid of this rule that players are allowed to restructure deals. You sign a contract, own up to it dammit. Especially when you just signed it a year ago. It's honestly one of the most immature things.

Nfl teams constantly break contracts with players. Its a two way street.

Bullcrap. NFL teams play by the CBA rules the PLAYERS agreed to. Not one player claimed the rules were bad when they signed up for the deal back when they renewed the CBA. Not one. Nor did Bennett or Kam Chancellor say they thought they were getting a bad deal when they put their signature on the dotted line with the Seahawks a year or two ago.

This is from Kam after he signed his contract

"I've got so many words it's hard to throw them out there. I just feel great right now. The Seahawks organization has blessed me. It just feels good. I'm a happy person right now," Chancellor said.

"Negations are negotiations, things are going to be up and down, be a bumpy road. At the end of the day it's done. That's all that matters at the end."

 

[WilsonMVP]

Bennett cracks me up. I find it ironic that he would be talking about the "NFL's middle class" losing jobs (from the Seahawks). Guys like Tony McDaniel, etc. Yet he was bitching about his contract and wanting more money in the offseason. So instead of helping guys like McDaniel, he wanted to add to the problem.

Some assumption on my part, but I feel like Bennett's less concerned about the Seahawks front office and more concerned about the salary cap set up in the NFL. To that, I do understand his point.

Certain positions are paid alot more than others, despite the relatively similar physical rigors (and dangers) of each. Bennett's point seems to be to illustrate this gulf. In doing so, he's putting himself and his contract in direct comparison with Wilson's. But the point should transcend his specific team (and position) and apply across the board.

And? Obv teams value certain positions over others and there is a certain price and demand for each position. If there is one position that is out of hand it is QB but they are also the most important for wins so I guess they are worth all that money. Doesnt matter how good the rest of the team the chances of winning a superbowl with a christian ponder type QB is very very low

 

[vin.couve12]

This is capitalism, people. Value of positions, "contacts" that are only slightly "contracts" in reality, etc.

When you're not good at something you want a socialistic approach because "it's not fair." Then when you are good at something then all of the sudden you want what you deserve.

There's a lot of full of ish posts up in here. Grow up already.

 

[BlueTalon]

Honestly, I think Bennett might be getting a little more of the blame than he deserves here. It's not like he has his own radio show, or his own blog, and distributes outrageous statements whenever he feels like it. Someone had to ask him some questions that elicited these responses. Bennett has a reputation for being a good interview, both because he's funny and because he says a lot of attention-worthy stuff. If I cared, I'd be interested in knowing the whole context of his comments, because knowing what led up to them could cast them in a different light. That said...



Stop talking, Michael. It's not helping.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

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I sure wish I could agree to work for someone for a set wage then demand more. He is a good player minus all the jump the snap false starts, the act however is getting stale.

People do it all the time. I've done it before myself. If you're a professional and exceed your paygrade you can ask for more money or even a different position before leaving the company. It's just called being damn good at what you do.

Oh you can ask, but it doesn't mean you're going to get it...........which Bennett didn't, and isn't going to. So why continue to cry about it publicly?

Who's he appealing to? Like us fans are going to give a player making 8M a year sympathy?

 

[Lords of Scythia]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13386132/michael-bennett-says-middle-men-being-priced-seattle-seahawks

Michael Bennett fears middle men being priced out with Seahawks deals

defensive end Michael Bennett fears Seattle's middle men might eventually be casualties of the spending spree.

"They can't pay everybody, but they do pay people," Bennett told Yahoo! Sports. "They pay certain people a lot of money, and other guys feel like they should be paid just as much as those guys because everybody contributes to the Super Bowls and the championships."

"That's what people don't understand, people talk about Tony McDaniels like, 'Oh, he's just another guy,' but think about, how does a Bobby Wagner make those tackles? These are the workers," he told Yahoo!

Sigh. Michael.... what would you like them to do? Not pay our elite players? If we don't another team will. Then we can fill our roster up with the "middle men"? How would that look? How much could we win if we had a team full of average players on mid-tier veteran contracts? :34853_doh:

The other fallacy is that Schnieder is a great gm and has a constant flow of cheap young talent coming though to replace guys like McDaniel.

 

[BlueTalon]

The other fallacy is that Schnieder is a great gm and has a constant flow of cheap young talent coming though to replace guys like McDaniel.

I wouldn't call that a fallacy. Schneider is a great GM and he does have a near constant flow of cheap young talent coming through.

However, it's not a given that any of the cheap young guys are good enough to make the team, let alone replace someone like McDaniel, which is why there's a near constant flow of them.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

The other fallacy is that Schnieder is a great gm and has a constant flow of cheap young talent coming though to replace guys like McDaniel.

You mean like Clark, Hill, Marsh, and hopefully Williams coming back?

There's been quite a few articles on how the Hawks are managing to keep all their stars, it's by cutting out "middle class" type players like McDaniels that are in the 2-3M a year range and going with youth.

It's not a new thing, the Patriots have done it for years, with even less stars.

But Bennett's right, the Hawks have chosen to pay some players more than others. He just happens to play a position that they can rotate, taking away snaps.........which makes his value less than other players like Earl, Wagner, Russell and Lynch.

If I was Schneider I'd remind Bennett that he was almost unemployed until we got ahold of him, coached him up and made him into the player he is. He owes Pete a LOT for what he's become, and he's been rewarded quite nicely. So STFU and play another year or two........and if you're still balling, you'll get more cash, here or elsewhere.

 

[hawk45]

Bennett cracks me up. I find it ironic that he would be talking about the "NFL's middle class" losing jobs (from the Seahawks). Guys like Tony McDaniel, etc. Yet he was bitching about his contract and wanting more money in the offseason. So instead of helping guys like McDaniel, he wanted to add to the problem.

Bennett is a card, but not the deepest thinker on the planet. He doesn't give a rip about anything he is saying, he's just living up to his anything-can-come-out-of-his-mouth persona.

His constant carping about his top-end contract so new the ink is still wet is diametrically opposed to any dearly-held principles about the little guy getting paid. I liked McDaniel and wish he were still here, but Bennett himself had no small part in rendering that impossible.

 

[idahohawk]

Nothing to see here. Move along. These guys are great football players, but they just don't get it. Ridiculous.

So should all players get payed equally? They all contribute! If you get more money, which "middle class" guy do you want to cut Bennett?

These guys are clueless. Just play football.