Welshers":25tktizo said:
Seeing this team without Russ shows just how good he truly is. It makes the question arise: if he was with another team, let's say one with a great offensive mind like Payton or Reid or Bellicheck, how great could he have been? I'm not necessarily criticizing the style of football that is played here but I don't think it allows Russ to show is true greatness.
I think Russ is so good that he could already be in the conversation for top 10 QBs of all time if he was on a different team his whole career. Sad to see,
Well it's a very interesting conversation point.
I would have to say it's unlikely he would of been significantly better with any other team. I think on most teams he would of been MUCH worst.
Think about the way he entered the league, the best defense in the league and nobody has any tape on him so he can just run with his career high athleticism and burn our opponents with both his feet and his arm.
Wilson jumped into a system from day 1 with the best defense in the league and most definitely one of the top running games with Marshawn Lynch.
I said this on THIS forum during Russell's first season:
"I think he's a top 5 QB and I think he's better than Andrew Luck!"
When I said that even THIS forum seemed to almost all think Andrew Luck was better. I read all those threads...
I even had to say he's WAYYYYY better than Kaepernick because at the time that was debatable among the "experts".
My point is from day 1 I believed in Wilson! Just because I think the team sucks this season doesn't mean I didn't see our potential way back in the day!
I think the biggest tragedy is that we only won 1 Super Bowl from 2012-2014... we should of won at least 2 if not 3!
So do I think Russell would have been better with another team???
He WAS 2nd all time in passer rating behind Aaron Rodgers until Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson passed him (I doubt either of those QB's will finish their career with a higher passer rating than Russell Wilson).
He's the fastest QB to EVER reach 100 wins!
He is 3rd all time in TD/Interception Ratio behind Aaron Rodgers and Patrick Mahomes. Once again I think he will finish with a better TD/Interception Ratio than Patrick Mahomes.
Russell also has a bunch of random stats like this article states:
https://www.nfl.com/photos/mind-boggling-stats-russell-wilson-0ap3000001025270
+269 point differential in the 4th quarter since 2012 (#1 in the league)
109.6 Passer rating in the 4th quarter (highest since 1991)
21 4th quarter comebacks and 27 game winning drives (most since 2012)
2nd highest pass to touchdown ratio in Super Bowl Era (at the time this article was published)...
NOT TO MENTION HE IS 4th all time in QB Rushing YARDS?
But his 35,142 Passing yards is more than any of the QB's who have more rushing yards (almost 4,000 more than Cam Newton)!
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/who-had-the-most-qb-rush-yards-career
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/V/VickMi00.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/N/NewtCa00.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CunnRa00.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsRu00.htm
CONCLUSION:
It's a HUGE stretch to say Wilson would of been better with another team when he is ALREADY one of the greatest of all time statistically on OUR TEAM...
Maybe he would have a little more passing yards???
I don't think he's going to join another team and do any better if that's what you mean.
I think his skill set matched the coaching from 2012 to 2014. Ever since then it's been more of a struggle but his numbers have been amazing year after year...
I JUST DON'T SEE A UNIVERSE WHERE RUSSEL WAS ON ANOTHER TEAM AND HE GOES FROM TOP 3 ALL TIME (in multiple categories) TO TOP 1-2...?
YOU THINK WITH ANOTHER TEAM HE WOULD BE THE FASTEST QB IN NFL HISTORY TO REACH 100 WINS???