Irvin to Raiders (Clayton—9.25 million per year)

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HawkAroundTheClock":3cpfum0u said:
Salk just said 4 yrs, $37 mil

9 to 10 million per average. About what was rumored, and more than we could spend at the position.
 

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Man, we could have probably had him at 4 $34m.

That wont be anywhere near good enough for a 3rd round comp pick.
 

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SomersetHawk":20yiosii said:
Man, we could have probably had him at 4 $34m.

That wont be anywhere near good enough for a 3rd round comp pick.

Actually, if the team had room for Bruce and wanted to keep him, they could have signed him on a one-year rental for $7.8 million by picking up his fifth-year option.
 

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^^^ Yep. Any chance of the Hawks keeping him effectively evaporated last summer (even if they just wanted to use the option as leverage for an extension).

In any case, 9.25 APY, so Irvin comes in about where expected.

4th round comp barring season ending injuries to the guys above him, and him turning into an all-pro at age 29.
 

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SomersetHawk":ybnyuiw2 said:
Wonder what Okung will get?
Nothing until he can pass a physical, which is being discussed as... not until June.
 

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onanygivensunday":1ge671ug said:
SomersetHawk":1ge671ug said:
Wonder what Okung will get?
Nothing until he can pass a physical, which is being discussed as... not until June.

Really? I heard he'll be talking to teams from today?

June would mean we get no comp pick, going by the mid-may deadline.
 

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SomersetHawk":1aweqmf4 said:
onanygivensunday":1aweqmf4 said:
SomersetHawk":1aweqmf4 said:
Wonder what Okung will get?
Nothing until he can pass a physical, which is being discussed as... not until June.

Really? I heard he'll be talking to teams from today?

June would mean we get no comp pick, going by the mid-may deadline.
My "source" re the timing of his being able to pass a physical is what John Clayton has stated on 710ESPN in one of the recent afternoon sessions.
 

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Updated...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/707596016111865856[/tweet]
 

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TDOTSEAHAWK":2p2gvzkz said:
That would have been a 3rd round compensatory draft pick this year.

As it currently stands, it would equate to a 3rd Round comp. But it sounds like there are more than a couple free agents who could eclipse $10 million APY.
 

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hawknation2016":1mzox3wa said:
TDOTSEAHAWK":1mzox3wa said:
That would have been a 3rd round compensatory draft pick this year.

As it currently stands, it would equate to a 3rd Round comp. But it sounds like there are more than a couple free agents who could eclipse $10 million APY.

So far...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/707596295850987520[/tweet]
 

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Great for the raiders if true, they really are improving and are looking like they are going to be a good team. How do we fill that spot though? KPL?
 

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HawkAroundTheClock":r4s7iupv said:
hawknation2016":r4s7iupv said:
TDOTSEAHAWK":r4s7iupv said:
That would have been a 3rd round compensatory draft pick this year.

As it currently stands, it would equate to a 3rd Round comp. But it sounds like there are more than a couple free agents who could eclipse $10 million APY.

So far...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/707596295850987520[/tweet]

Osemele made Irvin a 4th round comp pick with his 12 mil. APY contract.
 

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firebee":30izkdpo said:
HawkAroundTheClock":30izkdpo said:
hawknation2016":30izkdpo said:
TDOTSEAHAWK":30izkdpo said:
That would have been a 3rd round compensatory draft pick this year.

As it currently stands, it would equate to a 3rd Round comp. But it sounds like there are more than a couple free agents who could eclipse $10 million APY.

So far...
[tweet]https://twitter.com/nickkorte/status/707596295850987520[/tweet]

Osemele made Irvin a 4th round comp pick with his 12 mil. APY contract.

Not yet. That list needs to include Osemele and Malik Jackson above Irvin, but the NFL will award up to four 3rd round comp picks, so Irvin currently sits at #4.

Smith and Schwartz still remain unsigned though (both of whom have a decent shot of eclipsing 9.25 APY), and if Osweiler leaves Denver, forget about it.

Edit: also possible is that the Vikings signed Boone to starting tackle money, although I doubt that. He's more in the 7-8 range, if I had to guess.
 

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LOL at the raiders way overpaying for a mook like Irvin. too funny.
 

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Chukarhawk":1frm6o9a said:
LOL at the raiders way overpaying for a mook like Irvin. too funny.

Part of what's happening with the Raiders and Jags is that they've been way under the cap for a few years, and with the new CBA they're contractually obligated to hit 89% of the salary cap on a rolling average from 2013-2016.

If they don't, rather than going to building their team the money left that would get them to 89% just goes into a check they have to cut to the NFLPA.

So, they're "overpaying" by traditional logic, but the money (and guaranteed money; these deal are also likely front loaded) looks stupidly high because this is literally money that they're going to have to give away for nothing if they don't spend it this year.

Literally the only thing the new CBA gets right IMO is it prevents owners from being cheap @sses and not actually investing in their rosters.

The downside is that you get a couple clubs who didn't quite plan for how this whole things works, and as a result are now trying to scramble to make up for it (really no different than the complete cap hell some teams got themselves into immediately following the institution of the salary cap because they hadn't yet figured out how to manage the cap well).
 

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soohawk":3b5jspv8 said:
No fun when the family starts fracturing apart but we can't keep all the kids at home forever

The whole premise of the NFL is to keep every team "mediocre". The Patriots have been the best at defying all odds. We will soon see if we can match them.
 
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