Jalen Hurts now the highest paid in nfl

[jeremiah]

May as well throw the money away, the way things are going between US and Russia, the middle of September may be the last time anything we would call normal will happen. BELIEVE IT or NOT

 

[SoulfishHawk]

I've never liked the Eagle's and can't stand their fans. But I like Hurts, he's a hell of a player and fun to watch.

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

 

[ZornLargentPatera]

Too bad he didn't stupidly fumble away a scoop & score in the biggest game of his life. He could have been a Super Bowl champion too. That one was up there approaching Butt-Fumble territory!

 

[GemCity]

May as well throw the money away, the way things are going between US and Russia, the middle of September may be the last time anything we would call normal will happen. BELIEVE IT or NOT

 

[NoGain]

I like Jalen from what I've gathered of him as a person and leader/competitor on the field and in the locker room. He's still not in the elite QB's category for me personally. He's in the next tier, at least as long as his ability as a runner hold up. Good for him on the contract.

 

[HawkinNY]

So his cap hit will be around 50 mil next year. Wonder how they will be able to keep any pieces together.

 

[5thgen]

No more SB for the eagles. Hurts is no Maholms.

 

[seatownlowdown]

let's see how good of a GM roseman really is when his QB is taking up ~20% of the cap.

 

[Fade]

I've been saying, since Wentz and Goff were drafted, that the first team to get off the crazy train of paying 10% plus of salary cap to the QB, will be the next team with a shot of repeating the Patriots' legacy.

Draft a good one. Keep your combined cap hit for the QB and left tackle at around 10% to 12% of the cap. Use your remaining cap space to build a contender around them. Trade your QB in his 3rd or 4th year, and draft another one. If you can't get your guy right away, trade your stars for picks. Don't get caught up in the cash over cap game. Go through a couple years of sucking, if need be, until you hit on the next rookie starter. Then build another contender around him. You could probably get a ring every 4 to 6 years doing this.

It's plausible, it's logical.

However, when a team finds a QB they can win with. That equals job security for everyone in the building. The GMs and HCs want to win the whole thing, sure. But they want to keep their jobs more.

So they choose the typical path. Pay the QB and just hope you can find a way to draft well to make up for it. Even if you don't draft well and it goes south, a Franchise QB can still get you to the playoffs. Which in turn keeps you employed for years.

Finding QBs is harder than one would think. Only about 20% taken in the 1st round go on to be Franchise QBs. 80% failure rate. Only a few over the last 10 drafts which has had over 120 QBs taken in that time frame have been fringe/franchise caliber taken in the 2nd rd or later.

You can't just go in the backyard and pick a Franchise QB off of the Franchise QB Tree. If it was that easy every team would just do that, and no one would pay a QB. "Just draft another one."

Imagine the Eagles trading Hurts because they don't want to pay him. And struggle to find his replacement and become losers. Everyone is getting fired. Thus he is getting paid, and they take the typical path. Jobs are secure.

 

[Fade]

Those are incredibly low Cap Numbers. The Eagles org is very happy I am sure.

Trading Hurts at a mere chance to maybe get another cheap Rookie Franchise QB would be absolutely foolish as an alternative.

 

[fenderbender123]

Meanwhile, compensation for every other job in the country remains stagnant. Cool.

 

[AgentDib]

Even though these average dollars seem large, this example is a strong argument for why it makes sense to keep drafting QBs due to the the current salary cap and rookie pool allocations.

The consensus for Jalen Hurts right now is probably somewhere around the 6th best QB and his OTC valuation was $38m this last year.

Here are the cap hits that Philly will pay for him with this extension included:
2020: 1.1m
2021: 1.4m
2022: 1.6m
2023: 6.1m
2024: 13.6m
2025: 21.8m
2026: 31.8m

The extension on the cheap contract provides seven years of value totaling something like $200m in surplus value if he can repeat his existing level of play. He was a second round pick and so the team didn't have a fifth year option.

Even if Hurts hadn't played at all the first year or two there would still be huge value here.

 

[bigskydoc]

It's plausible, it's logical.

However, when a team finds a QB they can win with. That equals job security for everyone in the building. The GMs and HCs want to win the whole thing, sure. But they want to keep their jobs more.

So they choose the typical path. Pay the QB and just hope you can find a way to draft well to make up for it. Even if you don't draft well and it goes south, a Franchise QB can still get you to the playoffs. Which in turn keeps you employed for years.

Finding QBs is harder than one would think. Only about 20% taken in the 1st round go on to be Franchise QBs. 80% failure rate. Only a few over the last 10 drafts which has had over 120 QBs taken in that time frame have been fringe/franchise caliber taken in the 2nd rd or later.

You can't just go in the backyard and pick a Franchise QB off of the Franchise QB Tree. If it was that easy every team would just do that, and no one would pay a QB. "Just draft another one."

Imagine the Eagles trading Hurts because they don't want to pay him. And struggle to find his replacement and become losers. Everyone is getting fired. Thus he is getting paid, and they take the typical path. Jobs are secure.

The problem with that typical NFL team plan, is that, just getting to that place of worrying about job security requires finding that exceedingly rare franchise guy in the first place. Everything from winning to keeping jobs is contingent on landing that super star.

The number of people who might be at risk of losing their jobs, by dealing a potential franchise QB, pales in comparison to the number of people who are constantly losing jobs due to wasting draft picks and cap space chasing after, and failing to land, that one guy.

The whole point of my premise is that you never have to find that rare, true franchise QB. You just have to find an average-good QB who can be plugged into a true all-star team.

If you happen to get lucky, and hit on a late round super star, then sign him to an extension with low cap hits in the first three years, and trade him for a boatload of picks. How many firsts do you think the Eagles could get for Hurts right now?

Use those picks to stack your roster, and use the freed up cap space to fill critical holes with high-dollar vets.

 

[bigskydoc]

I'm not sold on Hurts as a franchise guy. He had a phenomenal season, but it was only a year ago that many were questioning whether he had a future at all. Does this report, from his playoff appearance against Tampa, sound eerily familiar, "Struggling to see open receivers and bailing from the pocket too early?"

It would sure be nice to see him stack at least one more good season before hitching the long-term wagon.