Jamal Adams Traded to Seattle!

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Say Adam's was in the draft this year. How much would it have cost to move up from 26 to 6?
 

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Well, golly. I am not sure what to think about this. Love that he is on the team and hopefully everything is worked out so that he will be here for several more years. Hell, I hope he makes the Ring of Honor. I sure hate giving up all that draft capital for one player though. People mentioning that next year's draft will be impacted by covid soothes the sting a little. Two first round picks and then some. Quite the gamble.

As a note: It is interesting that they decided to invest in Adams and not Clowney.
 

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CPHawk":2vwcv8n6 said:
Basically we just traded 2 picks that wouldn't make an impact based on our history picking. For a guy who is an All Pro level right now? I'll take it. As long as wee kept those middle round picks, we will be better off because of this trade.
I like this. In fact, let’s double down on everything and go get Clowney and Everson from Minnesota. Go for it now. Because that’s where the glory is currently. We don’t use first round picks very often, this year aside, and have found more value in the middle to late round picks anyway. I like the trade.
 

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John63":2qjk5vsh said:
again what good is a safety when the QB has all day due to no pass rush

what good is a safety when your QB is running for his life again.

I love the plaeyrs, hate teh price adn the fact we still have bigger needs
Also Wilson did not get his wich

were is the pass rush, were is the offensive weapons ie 3rd WR, were is the pass protection.

They went into this off season with 4 needs

pass rush
pass blocking
#3 wr option
another RB

we are 1 for 4 that is bad

Its not like we were filling those needs via the draft anyway. I'd rather have a good secondary and weak pass rush than both a weak pass rush and secondary, which is what we're looking at if we try building solely through the draft.
 

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PateratoWilson":13mwkwco said:
CPHawk":13mwkwco said:
Basically we just traded 2 picks that wouldn't make an impact based on our history picking. For a guy who is an All Pro level right now? I'll take it. As long as wee kept those middle round picks, we will be better off because of this trade.
I like this. In fact, let’s double down on everything and go get Clowney and Everson from Minnesota. Go for it now. Because that’s where the glory is currently. We don’t use first round picks very often, this year aside, and have found more value in the middle to late round picks anyway. I like the trade.


We won the SB due to a great secondary and D. I agree pay Clowney and Griffen. Right now we just added a top two safety to the team, our secondary just went from a liability 3 years ago to now being a strength again. Depending on Dunbars legal stuff, we have potentially 4 pro bowl guys.
 

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Adams is the Seahawks answer to George Kittle
 

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Great player. NFL position of low importance. NFL position of low Seahawks need. Big overpay. Looks like 1 more win in 2020, neutral in 2021, and 1 less win per year in the following 3 years.
 

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ducks41468":2lpeow15 said:
John63":2lpeow15 said:
again what good is a safety when the QB has all day due to no pass rush

what good is a safety when your QB is running for his life again.

I love the plaeyrs, hate teh price adn the fact we still have bigger needs
Also Wilson did not get his wich

were is the pass rush, were is the offensive weapons ie 3rd WR, were is the pass protection.

They went into this off season with 4 needs

pass rush
pass blocking
#3 wr option
another RB

we are 1 for 4 that is bad

Its not like we were filling those needs via the draft anyway. I'd rather have a good secondary and weak pass rush than both a weak pass rush and secondary, which is what we're looking at if we try building solely through the draft.


Balance is/should be the goal.

Having said that, pass rush becomes less important if you have one of the best secondaries in the league.

The more I look into this player, the more I’m “ok” with the trade.
 

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flv":3sgd95jz said:
Great player. NFL position of low importance. NFL position of low Seahawks need. Big overpay. Looks like 1 more win in 2020, neutral in 2021, and 1 less win per year in the following 3 years.

“Low importance”?

Are you sure about that?


I’d say if you have a mediocre D line and pass rushing specialist, DBs become VERY IMPORTANT.
 

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This is a great move if the Seahawks play man free and have Adams on Kittle the bulk of the game. If they sit back in tampa 2 like they did last year? Then it is a horrible trade.

I surmise they played so much Tampa 2 last year because they had no confidence in the back-end, so I am expecting that to change with Dunbar and Adams.

Seattle has a bunch of JAGs coming off the books in the next 2 years, so they can afford the eventual high cap numbers in '22 and '23.

The draft pick price tag is steep, but the Seahawks only embarrass themselves when they pick in the 1st, so it's best to not have those picks anyway.

Seattle turned two surefire crap picks into a 24 year old All-Pro.

LC Griffin
SS Adams
FS Diggs
RC Dunbar

It appears they might just have the best secondary in the NFL.

It all boils down to how they play defense, though. Adams needs to be manning up against the top TEs like Kittle for this to be a good trade. If I see them sitting back in soft zone, and Kittle runs a dig route for the the easy pitch and catch 1st down, I will be pissed.
 

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ducks41468":2t4joa32 said:
John63":2t4joa32 said:
again what good is a safety when the QB has all day due to no pass rush

what good is a safety when your QB is running for his life again.

I love the plaeyrs, hate teh price adn the fact we still have bigger needs
Also Wilson did not get his wich

were is the pass rush, were is the offensive weapons ie 3rd WR, were is the pass protection.

They went into this off season with 4 needs

pass rush
pass blocking
#3 wr option
another RB

we are 1 for 4 that is bad

Its not like we were filling those needs via the draft anyway. I'd rather have a good secondary and weak pass rush than both a weak pass rush and secondary, which is what we're looking at if we try building solely through the draft.


also don't forget a weak pass blocking, I understand were you are coming form but the price and what other holes we have and the system we play does not look good at all. If we are a boat, and we have 4 holes, great we patched done guess what we're still leaking adn likely goign down
 

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Fade":682w8nlu said:
This is a great move if the Seahawks play man free and have Adams on Kittle the bulk of the game. If they sit back in tampa 2 like they did last year? Then it is a horrible trade.

I surmise they played so much Tampa 2 last year because they had no confidence in the back-end, so I am expecting that to change with Dunbar and Adams.

Seattle has a bunch of JAGs coming off the books in the next 2 years, so they can afford the eventual high cap numbers in '22 and '23.

The draft pick price tag is steep, but the Seahawks only embarrass themselves when they pick in the 1st, so it's best to not have those picks anyway.

Seattle turned two surefire crap picks into a 24 year old All-Pro.

LC Griffin
SS Adams
FS Diggs
RC Dunbar

It appears they might just have the best secondary in the NFL.

It all boils down to how they play defense, though. Adams needs to be manning up against the top TEs like Kittle for this to be a good trade. If I see them sitting back in soft zone, and Kittle runs a dig route for the the easy pitch and catch 1st down, I will be pissed.


yes but they also need to open up the offense they can't play the same old just because we have a good secondary. However, I believe this will allow PC to continue his same old, which is worrisome.
 

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flv":2kazmsa7 said:
Great player. NFL position of low importance. NFL position of low Seahawks need. Big overpay. Looks like 1 more win in 2020, neutral in 2021, and 1 less win per year in the following 3 years.

The safety is the lynch pen for Pete's defenses. Maybe Safety is "low" impotence other places, but here he is the key.
 

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Fade":1xoyh0nm said:
This is a great move if the Seahawks play man free and have Adams on Kittle the bulk of the game. If they sit back in tampa 2 like they did last year? Then it is a horrible trade.

I surmise they played so much Tampa 2 last year because they had no confidence in the back-end, so I am expecting that to change with Dunbar and Adams.

Seattle has a bunch of JAGs coming off the books in the next 2 years, so they can afford the eventual high cap numbers in '22 and '23.

The draft pick price tag is steep, but the Seahawks only embarrass themselves when they pick in the 1st, so it's best to not have those picks anyway.

Seattle turned two surefire crap picks into a 24 year old All-Pro.

LC Griffin
SS Adams
FS Diggs
RC Dunbar

It appears they might just have the best secondary in the NFL.

It all boils down to how they play defense, though. Adams needs to be manning up against the top TEs like Kittle for this to be a good trade. If I see them sitting back in soft zone, and Kittle runs a dig route for the the easy pitch and catch 1st down, I will be pissed.

I agree, and because I agree.

I’ll say this is great insight, good post Bro Tater.
 

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John63":ffqtncfq said:
ducks41468":ffqtncfq said:
John63":ffqtncfq said:
again what good is a safety when the QB has all day due to no pass rush

what good is a safety when your QB is running for his life again.

I love the plaeyrs, hate teh price adn the fact we still have bigger needs
Also Wilson did not get his wich

were is the pass rush, were is the offensive weapons ie 3rd WR, were is the pass protection.

They went into this off season with 4 needs

pass rush
pass blocking
#3 wr option
another RB

we are 1 for 4 that is bad

Its not like we were filling those needs via the draft anyway. I'd rather have a good secondary and weak pass rush than both a weak pass rush and secondary, which is what we're looking at if we try building solely through the draft.


also don't forget a weak pass blocking, I understand were you are coming form but the price and what other holes we have and the system we play does not look good at all. If we are a boat, and we have 4 holes, great we patched done guess what we're still leaking adn likely goign down


You don’t have to patch all 4 holes in a leaky boat, as long as you patch a couple of them, and slow the leakage of the others down.


Glass is half full, Bro.
Cheer up.
 

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