Let's address it...Ciara

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Russ deserves better.
We all bitch about Pete.
10 years is a long time to be married to anything.
A fresh start does most people good in these situations.
Ciara is doing what any good wife should do.
Encourage her husband to be his best and maximize his potential to whatever degree.

Like we haven't seen the rest of our beloved SB team walk away disgruntled.
How dare Russ be any different.

Blaming Ciara is an easy/the hot excuse to avoid discussing that the roses don't smell as pretty as we thought here in Seattle.

The Golden Boy is disgruntled himself now.
That outta speak it's volumes.
 

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It's good to hear from those who choose not to imprison themselves within the mental trap of assigning blame. That doesn't really lead anywhere or promote growth. I suppose that is why Pete's in season program embraces a weekly tell the truth meeting.

I value the thoughtful messages of the free thinkers that post here.

Carry on.
 

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Cyrus12":221l9nyk said:
Hawkpower":221l9nyk said:
nwHawk":221l9nyk said:
I think it’s safe to say Ciara has influenced how he dresses and carries himself. He went from a dork to the playboy GQ dude. Maybe that would have happened on its own, but it’s easy to see how a little voice in the ear could have made a difference.



Good point.

He definitely carries himself differently.

Which is totally fine. But its also fine, considering the circumstances, to wonder if that influence is also affecting what may be the biggest impact to the organization ever.

That some people are saying its off limits to discuss on a message board is so strange to me. Nobody here is knocking on his door or sitting on his lawn. We are just random dudes talking on the internet :lol:
Maybe some were invited to the wedding??


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Can anyone educate me on how big a deal is Ciara in her industry? Is she in Gaga Beyonce level? One hit wonder? Few hit on the chart? On her way up? Sings in Indian casinos? I have no idea but curious.

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toffee":11usvzvy said:
Can anyone educate me on how big a deal is Ciara in her industry? Is she in Gaga Beyonce level? One hit wonder? Few hit on the chart? On her way up? Sings in Indian casinos? I have no idea but curious.

Before she met Russell Ciara had to cancel a rural fair tour because no one bought tickets. She had a couple hits in the 2000's, but hasn't done anything since musically.

I'm sure she's a very nice woman, and she obviously makes Russell happy, but make no mistake she's definitely enjoying her fame resurgence being married to Russell, and that probably means she's chirping in his ear about all of this.
 

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Tokadub":1novo764 said:
Wilson's play has regressed in terms of the "Eye of the Tiger" refuse to lose style of play ever since he got with her.

Maybe he's just getting old but I think there's a chance she just made him soft...

Imagine being the hardest guy in the NFL out of ANY QB. Then you marry some pampered spoiled baby girl, who is super left wing social activist... I can't imagine maintaining a killer instinct when your wife is literally a spoiled, biased, selfish, aggressively activist pillow puff woman.

I was saying this stuff 1-2 years ago, Wilson seems distracted to me. I don't want the Seahawks to lose him but at this point I'm not sure if he can win another Super Bowl the way he's been acting and playing...

The way he acts and plays seems directly related... He's just lost the "Eye of the Tiger"... imo.

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Tokadub":1z8v1szn said:
Wilson's play has regressed in terms of the "Eye of the Tiger" refuse to lose style of play ever since he got with her.

Maybe he's just getting old but I think there's a chance she just made him soft...

Imagine being the hardest guy in the NFL out of ANY QB. Then you marry some pampered spoiled baby girl, who is super left wing social activist... I can't imagine maintaining a killer instinct when your wife is literally a spoiled, biased, selfish, aggressively activist pillow puff woman.

I was saying this stuff 1-2 years ago, Wilson seems distracted to me. I don't want the Seahawks to lose him but at this point I'm not sure if he can win another Super Bowl the way he's been acting and playing...

The way he acts and plays seems directly related... He's just lost the "Eye of the Tiger"... imo.

jamescasey1124":1z8v1szn said:
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I don’t know what role, if any, that Ciara has played in everything. I do know that she isn’t some anonymous, civilian wife who needs to be left alone and protected. She is a purposely public figure and that makes this thread fair game. It’s a mess and both RW and PC share the blame.
 
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JayhawkMike":306ezald said:
I don’t know what role, if any, brat Ciara has played in everything. I do know that she isn’t some anonymous, civilian wife who needs to be left alone and protected. She is a purposely public figure and that makes this thread fair game. It’s a mess and both RW and PC share the blame.
Great point!
 

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Cyrus12":2eb7skrj said:
So how much do you think behind the scenes Ciara is impacting Wilson's desicion making process. She has her own "brand" and perhaps she isn't getting the attention she wants by being with a guy that doesn't play in a big market. How much do you think she in his ear? All the teams on the list would help her exposure. I had never heard of her before she was with Wilson but admittedly I am out of touch on that style of music.

Anyone in a marriage/relationship that's not completely one-sided has heavily influence from their Significant Other. I want to say in general the happiness of your marriage/relationship should trump the happiness of your fan base.

So that being said, how much do I think she is in his hear? A TON. Is it absurd? no.

Do I think she is in his ear for her own benefit? No.

Do I think she is in his ear for the benefit of both of them? Yes...

I seriously don't think she is trying to revive her music career, but if I'm some millionaire living in Seattle. Me and my significant other have the option to live a continued great life elsewhere 6-9 months out of the year. I would seriously consider it.

I love Seattle, but that's also because I am a middle income American. If I'm in the 1%, a lot of those places we all love to hate (LA, NYC, etc.) become a lot more desirable because your lifestyle there is just so much better when you have the money to afford the lifestyle.

RW already has his ring, he already has his fame. It is obvious he himself wants to continue his brand, the Seattle market is not great in the grand scheme.
 

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toffee":3oy3c8gw said:
Can anyone educate me on how big a deal is Ciara in her industry? Is she in Gaga Beyonce level? One hit wonder? Few hit on the chart? On her way up? Sings in Indian casinos? I have no idea but curious.

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In the music industry, if I were to compare the music industry to NFL QBs and lets say Beyonce is Peyton Manning, elite QB that will be remembered beyond her prime. Than Ciara is like Matt Ryan or something. Was very good at some point in time, has potential to continue being good, and remebered as such. But never quite made it to elite level HOF and will never. That being said I feel like the ability to stay in the limelight and create additional brands in the entertainment industry has more potential than for an athletee. Once you stop playing as an athlete, a few years later you kind of just become a broadcaster at best and 5-10 years later the new generation barely knows you. In the entertainment industry you have the ability to create other brands to continue your wealth...fashion, headphones, baby products, producers, record labels, etc. I mean it exists even right now, people still know Ciara and she hasn't had a hit record in a long time. Tony Romo has been out of the game for like 2 years and he's damn near forgotten already.
 

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Sgt. Largent":2unqz9e5 said:
toffee":2unqz9e5 said:
Can anyone educate me on how big a deal is Ciara in her industry? Is she in Gaga Beyonce level? One hit wonder? Few hit on the chart? On her way up? Sings in Indian casinos? I have no idea but curious.

Before she met Russell Ciara had to cancel a rural fair tour because no one bought tickets. She had a couple hits in the 2000's, but hasn't done anything since musically.

I'm sure she's a very nice woman, and she obviously makes Russell happy, but make no mistake she's definitely enjoying her fame resurgence being married to Russell, and that probably means she's chirping in his ear about all of this.
Thanks, this old fart is totally ignorant.

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jamescasey1124":iit2f5k6 said:
Tokadub":iit2f5k6 said:
Wilson's play has regressed in terms of the "Eye of the Tiger" refuse to lose style of play ever since he got with her.

Maybe he's just getting old but I think there's a chance she just made him soft...

Imagine being the hardest guy in the NFL out of ANY QB. Then you marry some pampered spoiled baby girl, who is super left wing social activist... I can't imagine maintaining a killer instinct when your wife is literally a spoiled, biased, selfish, aggressively activist pillow puff woman.

I was saying this stuff 1-2 years ago, Wilson seems distracted to me. I don't want the Seahawks to lose him but at this point I'm not sure if he can win another Super Bowl the way he's been acting and playing...

The way he acts and plays seems directly related... He's just lost the "Eye of the Tiger"... imo.

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I have been on too many non-football proj ct boat for a few years.

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Ciara is not just a Singer, she's a model and has lines of products and probably other interests.

There is the entourage thing as a singer and that crowd, but then you have the other crowed with the Modeling industry as well.

Chicago would enhance her footprint in two of her interests minimal I am sure.
 

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Ciara is not just a Singer, she's a model and has lines of products and probably other interests.

There is the entourage thing as a singer and that crowd, but then you have the other crowed with the Modeling industry as well.

Chicago would enhance her footprint in two of her interests minimal I am sure.
A trade to New Orleans would make that interesting. Great destination for him, not so for her.

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https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/77408

See also Trump, Don J. He's made business branding into an art form.
PLEASE don't make this about politics, just branding vis-a-vis Ciara.

For example, Ciara is worth only $20m, while Beyonce is worth $200m
Russ is worth $135m while Brady is worth $200m and Gisele has $400m, chiefly for standing nicely.
 

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Rocket":pjvf210s said:
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/77408

See also Trump, Don J. He's made business branding into an art form.
PLEASE don't make this about politics, just branding vis-a-vis Ciara.

For example, Ciara is worth only $20m, while Beyonce is worth $200m
Russ is worth $135m while Brady is worth $200m and Gisele has $400m, chiefly for standing nicely.

Wow! Gisele's net worth is double that of Tom Brady? He sure set himself up nicely.
 

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hawkfan68":oq43zvps said:
Rocket":oq43zvps said:
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/77408

See also Trump, Don J. He's made business branding into an art form.
PLEASE don't make this about politics, just branding vis-a-vis Ciara.

For example, Ciara is worth only $20m, while Beyonce is worth $200m
Russ is worth $135m while Brady is worth $200m and Gisele has $400m, chiefly for standing nicely.

Wow! Gisele's net worth is double that of Tom Brady? He sure set himself up nicely.

Apparently he’s just a trophy husband.
 
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