Looking ahead, which asst. coaches stay or go in 2016?

[Scottemojo]

I think Bevell is gone. He got his red zone threat, and is publicly laying the red zone failures on Russ now. The team is married to Russ for big money. Bevell, not big money.

He gone.

Goofy. Like how you take a benign comment and twist is into vindictiveness. Bevell never said anything close to what you say here, unless your source is TMZ. Re-up Bevell!

Please don't.

They won't.

Bevell has had the offense in his hands for 4 years now. It was erratic last year, and is dismal this year. I will repeat, Bevell will be gone after this year, and posterity will say it was a year too late.

 

[Siouxhawk]

I think Bevell is gone. He got his red zone threat, and is publicly laying the red zone failures on Russ now. The team is married to Russ for big money. Bevell, not big money.

He gone.

Goofy. Like how you take a benign comment and twist is into vindictiveness. Bevell never said anything close to what you say here, unless your source is TMZ. Re-up Bevell!

Question is still out there, who is more important to the future of the Seahawks, Bevell or Wilson?

Still waiting.

Why should I answer a dumb question? Just because you ask? You're no Jigsaw.
And I'll say it ... He won't be gone because he's a great asset to the staff and Pete knows as much!

 

[Hasselbeck]

I think Cable stays. But I think JS finally makes a real concerted effort to address the line in FA. I can see Alex Boone being our big target in 2016.

I think Bevell and the team "mutually agree to part ways" ... thats the 201- version of "fired"

Richard will be the really interesting one to watch unfold. If Gus Bradley gets fired, do you consider demoting Richard back to defensive backs coach and giving Gus the keys to the defense again? If the defense continues to get ambushed by the elite teams on the schedule, does he outright get fired?

I think he gets one more year and instead you see moves on that side of the ball (ex Cary Williams release, Kam restructure, etc.)

 

[Scottemojo]

It is a simple question Siouxhawk, is the OC more important than the guy signed for 88 mil?

 

[Hasselbeck]

The reality that 2 of the 2 coaches went on media and through Wilson under the tires and PC said nothing says they will be here, but Wilson maybe not.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

What?

 

[Siouxhawk]

I think Cable stays. But I think JS finally makes a real concerted effort to address the line in FA. I can see Alex Boone being our big target in 2016.

I think Bevell and the team "mutually agree to part ways" ... thats the 201- version of "fired"

Richard will be the really interesting one to watch unfold. If Gus Bradley gets fired, do you consider demoting Richard back to defensive backs coach and giving Gus the keys to the defense again? If the defense continues to get ambushed by the elite teams on the schedule, does he outright get fired?

I think he gets one more year and instead you see moves on that side of the ball (ex Cary Williams release, Kam restructure, etc.)

Do you carry these predictions over to the offseason if the Hawks win 6 of their next 7 and make the playoffs? And who knows what happens from there.

 

[Siouxhawk]

The reality that 2 of the 2 coaches went on media and through Wilson under the tires and PC said nothing says they will be here, but Wilson maybe not.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

What?

I think he's mumbling in his sleep.

 

[Hasselbeck]

I think Cable stays. But I think JS finally makes a real concerted effort to address the line in FA. I can see Alex Boone being our big target in 2016.

I think Bevell and the team "mutually agree to part ways" ... thats the 201- version of "fired"

Richard will be the really interesting one to watch unfold. If Gus Bradley gets fired, do you consider demoting Richard back to defensive backs coach and giving Gus the keys to the defense again? If the defense continues to get ambushed by the elite teams on the schedule, does he outright get fired?

I think he gets one more year and instead you see moves on that side of the ball (ex Cary Williams release, Kam restructure, etc.)

Do you carry these predictions over to the offseason if the Hawks win 6 of their next 7 and make the playoffs? And who knows what happens from there.

That'd put them at 10-6 and not a lock for the playoffs.. so absolutely.

I think the only way Bevell returns is if the team wins the Super Bowl at this point. I think the only reason Bevell is still here is because the team went to the Super Bowl last season and it was too late in the game to chase a replacement.. also that would have been Pete's way of admitting failure on the worst call in the history of professional football.

 

[Siouxhawk]

I think Cable stays. But I think JS finally makes a real concerted effort to address the line in FA. I can see Alex Boone being our big target in 2016.

I think Bevell and the team "mutually agree to part ways" ... thats the 201- version of "fired"

Richard will be the really interesting one to watch unfold. If Gus Bradley gets fired, do you consider demoting Richard back to defensive backs coach and giving Gus the keys to the defense again? If the defense continues to get ambushed by the elite teams on the schedule, does he outright get fired?

I think he gets one more year and instead you see moves on that side of the ball (ex Cary Williams release, Kam restructure, etc.)

Do you carry these predictions over to the offseason if the Hawks win 6 of their next 7 and make the playoffs? And who knows what happens from there.

That'd put them at 10-6 and not a lock for the playoffs.. so absolutely.

I think the only way Bevell returns is if the team wins the Super Bowl at this point. I think the only reason Bevell is still here is because the team went to the Super Bowl last season and it was too late in the game to chase a replacement.. also that would have been Pete's way of admitting failure on the worst call in the history of professional football.

Ok, that's your opinion and I thank you for that.
Bringing up Pete, yeah he's the only one that matters when it comes to deciding the fates of the Hawks staff as the question this thread initially posed.
I prefer to think that Pete sees Bevell as part of the solution in restoring the Hawks to a level of prominence. Pete doesn't make the kind of knee-jerk and unfounded decisions that so-called experts make on the internet. He sees the whole picture. He understands the difficulty it takes to make a play operate when your offensive line is crumbling. He sees the cyclical shortcomings of a defense that this franchise has made as its leaning point with Paul Allen's money. He sees the behind-the-scenes daily work that Bevell is putting in with Wilson, helping him transition to a multi-dimensional threat who theoretically can depend on his line to give him a pocket.
It's just my opinion, but I see Pete as never giving it a second thought that Bev is his OC today and tomorrow.

 

[Rob12]

I'm being dead honest when I say this.

I actually think Siouxhawk is Darrell Bevell.

 

[mrt144]

I'm being dead honest when I say this.

I actually think Siouxhawk is Darrell Bevell.

Does he ever post during a game? :stirthepot:

 

[justafan]

I believe with Cable will be gone and he should be.The same with Bevell.
My reasons are this team is sloppy,undisciplined with very little cohesion.I know people want a more complicated system but it will require better teachers to get the players to execute.

 

[rideaducati]

I believe with Cable will be gone and he should be.The same with Bevell.
My reasons are this team is sloppy,undisciplined with very little cohesion.I know people want a more complicated system but it will require better teachers to get the players to execute.

It's rather difficult to have cohesion along the offensive line when they've only been together for ten weeks. Look around the NFL and show me the good offensive line that has only been together for ten weeks. The line has been improving every week and they will only get better with time. Cable has had a difficult time, especially this year because he has had to teach guys that have been playing on the defensive side of the ball their entire lives. When the improvement stops, all bets are off, but until then, we should expect growing pains.

 

[Bill Assumpcao]

...Cable and Philbin would remain on the sidelines during games to coach their respective assignments with McCoy calling plays and directing from the booth for optimal viewpoint. McCoy being QB coach (exclusive to Wison) as well as OC is kind of killing two birds with one stone in advising and guiding Russell Wilson throughout the week of practice and through the game process...

:th2thumbs:
I really, really like this! There seems to be a disconnect somewhere and someone needs to re-establish the connection.

Go Hawks,
BillA

 

[hawknation2015]

I was on board with Cable and the development I was witnessing from a very green OL, until the musical chairs began at center. I don't believe that has helped the line develop cohesiveness or has helped Russell develop chemistry with the person who is supposed to be snapping the ball to him and making the protection calls. Under Carroll's offensive philosophy, everything is supposed to be geared toward making things easier for the QB. The musical chairs at center feels like Cable is straying from the team's philosophy and trying to save his own hide by making excuses for line's play, i.e. blaming the line's disjointedness on the Unger trade.

 

[HawkGA]

I'm being dead honest when I say this.

I actually think Siouxhawk is Darrell Bevell.

Does he ever post during a game? :stirthepot:

The way Bevell calls plays, it wouldn't surprise me if he's surfing the internet instead of watching the game.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Ok, that's your opinion and I thank you for that.
Bringing up Pete, yeah he's the only one that matters when it comes to deciding the fates of the Hawks staff as the question this thread initially posed.
I prefer to think that Pete sees Bevell as part of the solution in restoring the Hawks to a level of prominence. Pete doesn't make the kind of knee-jerk and unfounded decisions that so-called experts make on the internet. He sees the whole picture. He understands the difficulty it takes to make a play operate when your offensive line is crumbling. He sees the cyclical shortcomings of a defense that this franchise has made as its leaning point with Paul Allen's money. He sees the behind-the-scenes daily work that Bevell is putting in with Wilson, helping him transition to a multi-dimensional threat who theoretically can depend on his line to give him a pocket.
It's just my opinion, but I see Pete as never giving it a second thought that Bev is his OC today and tomorrow.

This is Bevell's 4th year running the offense and I would argue it has steadily gotten worse the longer he has been here. Wilson hasn't shown any signs of progressing to the next level as a passer, that's largely on Bevell. The offense is laughably bad inside the red zone, even with Jimmy Graham added into the mix. That's largely on Bevell. The play calling still forgets about the running game for large chunks of game play, that's largely on Bevell. The offense seems to start every game like trying to start a car in 5th gear after its sat in freezing temperatures for a month... that's largely on Bevell.

When seasons go bad, the ones that face the immediate scrutiny whether it is fair or unfair are usually the coordinators. Darrell Bevell entered this season when his last play call of the year was the most scrutinized and in my opinion, dumbest play call in the history of the NFL. His rope was mighty short to begin with.. and this locker room has been fractured ever since that call. Whether or not you want to agree with that is on you, but I don't think there is any question that every player in that locker room that was a member of the 2014 team wonders "what if?" had Bevell gave the ball to Lynch at the 1 instead of calling a slant pass.

Now the subtle shots at Wilson (which may be accurate but probably shouldn't be said) coupled with Bevell throwing Lockette under the bus immediately after the Super Bowl loss.. and this performance this season.. and I see no way he returns in 2016 barring this offense catching FIRE in a hurry.

 

[HawkGA]

In fairness, I think that fake punt formation that somebody tried this year was the dumbest play in NFL history.

 

[justafan]

I believe with Cable will be gone and he should be.The same with Bevell.
My reasons are this team is sloppy,undisciplined with very little cohesion.I know people want a more complicated system but it will require better teachers to get the players to execute.

It's rather difficult to have cohesion along the offensive line when they've only been together for ten weeks. Look around the NFL and show me the good offensive line that has only been together for ten weeks. The line has been improving every week and they will only get better with time. Cable has had a difficult time, especially this year because he has had to teach guys that have been playing on the defensive side of the ball their entire lives. When the improvement stops, all bets are off, but until then, we should expect growing pains.

We all know why the Oline is a hot mess.That's on him .He has proven his lack of talent evaluation and judgment IMO.A better teacher can work with players who played Oline in college.The results are why I believe he will be gone.

If I was JS I would be a little pissed with the results of players drafted that Cable wanted.

 

[Anthony!]

Ok, that's your opinion and I thank you for that.
Bringing up Pete, yeah he's the only one that matters when it comes to deciding the fates of the Hawks staff as the question this thread initially posed.
I prefer to think that Pete sees Bevell as part of the solution in restoring the Hawks to a level of prominence. Pete doesn't make the kind of knee-jerk and unfounded decisions that so-called experts make on the internet. He sees the whole picture. He understands the difficulty it takes to make a play operate when your offensive line is crumbling. He sees the cyclical shortcomings of a defense that this franchise has made as its leaning point with Paul Allen's money. He sees the behind-the-scenes daily work that Bevell is putting in with Wilson, helping him transition to a multi-dimensional threat who theoretically can depend on his line to give him a pocket.
It's just my opinion, but I see Pete as never giving it a second thought that Bev is his OC today and tomorrow.

This is Bevell's 4th year running the offense and I would argue it has steadily gotten worse the longer he has been here. Wilson hasn't shown any signs of progressing to the next level as a passer, that's largely on Bevell. The offense is laughably bad inside the red zone, even with Jimmy Graham added into the mix. That's largely on Bevell. The play calling still forgets about the running game for large chunks of game play, that's largely on Bevell. The offense seems to start every game like trying to start a car in 5th gear after its sat in freezing temperatures for a month... that's largely on Bevell.

When seasons go bad, the ones that face the immediate scrutiny whether it is fair or unfair are usually the coordinators. Darrell Bevell entered this season when his last play call of the year was the most scrutinized and in my opinion, dumbest play call in the history of the NFL. His rope was mighty short to begin with.. and this locker room has been fractured ever since that call. Whether or not you want to agree with that is on you, but I don't think there is any question that every player in that locker room that was a member of the 2014 team wonders "what if?" had Bevell gave the ball to Lynch at the 1 instead of calling a slant pass.

Now the subtle shots at Wilson (which may be accurate but probably shouldn't be said) coupled with Bevell throwing Lockette under the bus immediately after the Super Bowl loss.. and this performance this season.. and I see no way he returns in 2016 barring this offense catching FIRE in a hurry.

The reality is the offense only worked because of Wilson and Lynch, and that with an oline ranked 22nd. Now that the oline is ranked 32nd and is the worse in football, and lynch ahs been hurt, rather than making adjustments, he just throws the QB under the bus. Rodgers has played like crap the last 2 games or so since his oline went down hill form top 15 to top 20) yet no one throws him under the bus. Luck played bad all year and no coach threw him under the bus. RG3 is the last QB I heard a coach throw under the bus and that was after RG3 threw his teammate sunder the bus, Wilson has never done that. What Bevel and Cable did was pathetic. I believe there are going to be some big changes this off season, not sure if it will be coaches or players. I am not sure Wilson and Bevel can both be here anymore given what Bevel just did.