Penny Broken Finger

[kidhawk]

Normally I'd be really disappointed to hear about our first pick being injured already, but this really doesn't seem so bad to me in this case. First of all, it's just a finger injury, so it's not something that would impair his ability to run the ball or become a nagging repetitive problem for a RB such as a high ankle sprain or other leg/foot injuries can be. Second, I really like what I saw last year and in our first preseason game from Chris Carson.

 

[oldhawkfan]

We just seem to have bad luck at the RB position lately.

The understatement of the year.

Our bad luck with RB's since Lynch has been beyond ridiculous. Are the Football Gods making us pay up for all the success we enjoyed with Lynch?

I’m not sure I agree with the statement that we have bad luck with RBs. Lack of talent is more like it. Especially last year. This year it looks to be a talented group.

 

[AROS]

I’m not sure I agree with the statement that we have bad luck with RBs. Lack of talent is more like it. Especially last year. This year it looks to be a talented group.

Injuries has been a huge factor since Lynch's departure, not just lack of talent.

 

[Mojambo]

If this is the most serious injury we have to deal with we are incredibly fortunate.

It's way better than what happened to Guice.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

I’m not sure I agree with the statement that we have bad luck with RBs. Lack of talent is more like it. Especially last year. This year it looks to be a talented group.

Injuries has been a huge factor since Lynch's departure, not just lack of talent.

Like I said, look around the league, very few teams aren't dealing with RB injuries.

If we're talking luck, then we have to see that we were lucky with Lynch and his insane durability, more than we've been unlucky with our RB's since. It's the #1 most injury prone position on the field.

IMO it's also a product of the state of football, with 75-80% of high school and college programs going to up tempo spread offenses over the past decade where the RB's are just basically hybrid receivers that don't take a pounding and build up that durability and toughness...........it's easy to see that those same RB's when they get to college and then the pros aren't tougher and more durable.

Cause they haven't carried the load and taken the hits in practice and games necessary to take the pounding of NFL games with 250 lb LB's that run 4.4's hitting them at full speed.

 

[Seymour]

We just seem to have bad luck at the RB position lately.

The understatement of the year.

Our bad luck with RB's since Lynch has been beyond ridiculous. Are the Football Gods making us pay up for all the success we enjoyed with Lynch?

Look around the league, very few durable bell cow backs...........that's why when you have one like Lynch you hold onto him like grim death, and we did.

It's also why it's a BIG risk to draft a RB in the first round, because the chance of him being worth the high pick is diminished by risk of injury.

Having said all this, 3-4 weeks isn't the end of the world. Penny wasn't ahead of Carson anyway, and the combo of Davis and McKissic should spell Carson nicely until Penny's back and hopefully ready to roll by week 1 or 2.

We did?
Because I could have sworn that we let him retire early, gave up his rights and let him keep the cash and now he is playing for a team he likes better for the 2nd season.

I guess I could be wrong....but Earl I'll bet saw the same thing happen....just sayin.

 

[vin.couve12]

Lynch was durable because he was a generational talent and also because, like it or not, "I'll just read it."

Doing things exactly to the letter of play design makes your coaches like you, but it also gets you beat to all hell. Coaches LOVE you to run where you're supposed to even if you get your clock cleaned.

The RB position used to be about actual running talent. The RB position now is a "system" game and college-esque coaches do their RBs no favors.

You don't build up durability. You get worn down by doing what you're told even though your running into 3 DLs and damn near getting your leg broke in half.

Lynch: "I'll just read it."

 

[Cyrus12]

I think with Carson Davis and Mckissic we will be fine until he is ready. Hopefully he can keep working out while he recovers.

 

[jammerhawk]

Lynch retired, the team didn't just let him retire. Just clarifying.

While it is true the team let him keep his SB $ and traded his rights they may have had to litigate to get the $ back and cause ill feelings with the remaining team who felt Lynch had done a lot as a Seahawks player. In the end there have been posts ad nauseum as to why Lynch became dissatisfied in Seattle and at long last the clueless OC and OLine coaches were both finally canned. I can imagine Lynch is hardly overjoyed to see Cable in Oakland.

To me I don't think this retirement was what Earl saw but he did see the team cave into Lynch and redo his deal early and that act has bitten them in the rear, so they need to make it clear now they won't be redoing contracts early. Of course the reason why they did that with Lynch was to fight to keep Lynch here and playing b/c he was a special player in the system we had as he nullified the weak OLine play and lame offensive play calling with his strong running.

Getting back to the topic now, the thread was about Penny's injury; and all we know so far is he has a broken finger, will be having a surgeon look at it, or surgery, and he will be out as presently estimated for 3-4 weeks.

 

[Seymour]

Lynch retired, the team didn't just let him retire. Just clarifying.

While it is true the team let him keep his SB $ and traded his rights they may have had to litigate to get the $ back and cause ill feelings with the remaining team who felt Lynch had done a lot as a Seahawks player. In the end there have been posts ad nauseum as to why Lynch became dissatisfied in Seattle and at long last the clueless OC and OLine coaches were both finally canned. I can imagine Lynch is hardly overjoyed to see Cable in Oakland.

To me I don't think this retirement was what Earl saw but he did see the team cave into Lynch and redo his deal early and that act has bitten them in the rear, so they need to make it clear now they won't be redoing contracts early. Of course the reason why they did that with Lynch was to fight to keep Lynch here and playing b/c he was a special player in the system we had as he nullified the weak OLine play and lame offensive play calling with his strong running.

Getting back to the topic now, the thread was about Penny's injury; and all we know so far is he has a broken finger, will be having a surgeon look at it, or surgery, and he will be out as presently estimated for 3-4 weeks.

No need to clarify, but..... you cut out the important part of my sentence (gave up the rights to him and let him walk which is the opposite of the post I responded to stated).

 

[Bigpumpkin]

Often times what we call a broken "hand" is in actuality a broken finger. The bones extending from the fingers into the hand are actually "finger". My son broke same mid season in HS and he was out the rest of the season. He was a LB at the time. Of course we didn't fly to Pennsylvania to a specialist for the surgery either. I suspect Penny's surgeon has a particular set of skills.

Seems to me that if it was a simple fracture that a local M.D. would do the repair. We never get to see the X-rays, so we cannot determine the severity. This break is obviously complicated........and complicated repairs generally take longer to heal. At best, it will be four weeks from the day of surgery. This is a classic example of our RB jinx!!!!

 

[Seymour]

Often times what we call a broken "hand" is in actuality a broken finger. The bones extending from the fingers into the hand are actually "finger". My son broke same mid season in HS and he was out the rest of the season. He was a LB at the time. Of course we didn't fly to Pennsylvania to a specialist for the surgery either. I suspect Penny's surgeon has a particular set of skills.

Seems to me that if it was a simple fracture that a local M.D. would do the repair. We never get to see the X-rays, so we cannot determine the severity. This break is obviously complicated........and complicated repairs generally take longer to heal. At best, it will be four weeks from the day of surgery. This is a classic example of our RB jinx!!!!

Speak for yourself please....I can see every single one of them! :twisted: :mrgreen:

 

[hgwellz12]

... To keep from crying..


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[jammerhawk]

This should be a separate thread b/c it is off topic.

However, Lynch retired on his own and the team was in the position of needing to pursue him for the portion of his signing bonus already paid to him and probably alienating many fans and some players as result, or letting him keep the money. As far as trading his rights they could have held them until the end of his contract, one more year, and got nothing or traded them as he wasn't going play here anymore and wanted to stay in Oakland. This was clearly not a perfect situation but Oakland gave up a draft pick for him instead of the team getting nothing for a draft where the Hawks needed draft picks. The player selected for the pick obtained was Tre Flowers.

The team had taken huge steps to try and keep him but he was hurt, had had surgery, was ignored at critical times by Bevell and had shown his frustration with the offense as called at times by even flipping the bird to the OC. The mistake made with Lynch was keeping Bevell after XLIX and not in trading away Lynch's rights after he had indicated he wasn't prepared to play here anymore.

 

[Thepeelsessions]

Anyone remember when SA broke some fingers back in the day? 2006 maybe. I think it was his 4th and 5th metacarpals. I can't remember how long he was shelved, but I remember Mo Morris starting in his absence. I don't believe Mo scored a single TD in the handful of games SA was out.

 

[brimsalabim]

In any case a broken finger / hand issue should not impair his cardio work outs too much. He should be in better shape by the time he returns.

 

[Jerhawk]

Let's just hope Chris Carson stays healthy

 

[TwistedHusky]

It might be good for Penny. It might be the push he needed.

I think he can be fantastic.

But in the recent article on him, he admits he often plays video games (Fortnite specifically) 7 hours at a time. Obviously, we all need our downtime but maybe he will find that being down and needing to chase Carson, even more, will create more focus to work to be a great Seahawk RB.

We will see. I have confidence he can be.

 

[zchurch74]

This is going to haunt us all year. He will come back too soon. First game back he will only play partial time. They will pull him due to issues. He will also have fumbling problems and they will blame it on the broken finger. He will never be 100% this entire year. Just how the cookie crumbles in our backfield.

 

[rcaido]

Davis & Mckissic is going to really push hard for that roster spot!

Hopefully Penny will see how tough this competition would be and burn all that damn extra weight while healing. Penny dont let this slip away from your...