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^thats just how we are using him, and the new philosophy of the offense. Is that his fault, or the fault of the play callertrying to get too cute?
 

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SomersetHawk":19dwq92r said:
bjornanderson21":19dwq92r said:
cesame":19dwq92r said:
The way Bevell is using him so far is criminal

We're talking about a guy who Adrian Peterson called the best player he's ever played with. As we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player.

Time to figure it out, Bevell.
Please try not to say things like "we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player" because we don't ALL share that opinion.

I think he is the most overrated player in the last 10 years and there are probably 75-100 "wr" that I would choose over him.

Im aware im in the minority, just pointing out that we DO NOT all think/know that.






I miss Tate.

I'm going to call you out on that one. Go on, name 75.

+1. Lol.

I watched a Vikings team that sucked TEAR teams apart using two players (ap and harvin). The best WR those teams had wasBernard Berrian...

Seattle has no excuse for their miserable offensive out put.
 

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cesame":155v8hgw said:
The way Bevell is using him so far is criminal

We're talking about a guy who Adrian Peterson called the best player he's ever played with. As we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player.

Time to figure it out, Bevell.
Dallas had him sooooo figured out, it almost looked like they were spying him. I was hoping Bevell would notice that and start using Harvin as "bait", but he didn't even do that.
 

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tdlabrie":2vtv4qrx said:
Dallas had him sooooo figured out, it almost looked like they were spying him. I was hoping Bevell would notice that and start using Harvin as "bait", but he didn't even do that.
God forbid we send him on some go routes down the sideline. He'd either pull a safety with him helping to free up the middle of the field (which would be GREAT to use some receiving tight ends at) or he'd be in one-on-one coverage and we could throw some bombs to him.


...Nah, makes way too much sense.
 

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RolandDeschain":z3f019a9 said:
tdlabrie":z3f019a9 said:
Dallas had him sooooo figured out, it almost looked like they were spying him. I was hoping Bevell would notice that and start using Harvin as "bait", but he didn't even do that.
God forbid we send him on some go routes down the sideline. He'd either pull a safety with him helping to free up the middle of the field (which would be GREAT to use some receiving tight ends at) or he'd be in one-on-one coverage and we could throw some bombs to him.


...Nah, makes way too much sense.

Not sure why you'd want to get all fancy like that. I think we need more plays like that bizarre option to Walters.
 

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Dallas ran a ton of man cover so they could both spy Russ and target Percy in the backfield. Simple rubs would have had guys, including Percy, open pretty easy. We ran a couple of them, and they worked.
 

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a go route... Richardson and Percy on opposite sides of the field and go. see what it opens up. our passing game opens up our running game, and our running game opens up our passing game. but as you said, makes to much sense. and at this point, bevell isn't making much sense.
 

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we were trying to go deep a lot today. Were you guys watching the game? Russ has NO TIME to make those throws happen. He's not scrambling around because he wants to, he has to.

Russell needs to learn to step forward and through the pocket instead of always bailing out twenty yards in the wrong direction. By doing this, he wouldn't need to run for his life EVERY pass play. Plus, I think he should throw the ball on time a bit more. Good things usually happen when Russell throws the ball in a timely fashion, but he seems hesitant to do so.
 

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a go route... Richardson and Percy on opposite sides of the field and go. see what it opens up. our passing game opens up our running game, and our running game opens up our passing game. but as you said, makes to much sense. and at this point, bevell isn't making much sense.

Throw Lockette in the mix too. That would definitely open things up.
 

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I think the Super Bowl fooled both fans and coaches into thinking emphasizing Harvin's speed was the key to the offense this year, when it needed to be a supplementary piece.
 

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Nobody in this forum was more vocal than myself in disapproving of the Harvin deal. My objections turned into months of arguments. Some ugly. One reason is because I knew his signing meant the departure of Tate and I didn't want to lose Tate. So this is obviously a good time for me to step in and say TOLD YOU SO, right?

Wrong. And I was wrong. Especially now knowing what it would cost to re-sign Tate (too much for this offense). Injury concerns aside (I was right about that), Harvin, by all accounts has been a solid team mate. He's not been the cancer here that he was in Minn. He's been more Dillon than Owens, much to my pleasure.

This mess isn't on Harvin. He's a single player and even "the most dangerous player in the league", needs help. Harvin needs a true 1, or at least a burner, to be truly effective. Excluding his final 10 games with the Vikes, at his best, he had Moss. He also had Favre, AP and an O-line. He has (close to) 2/3rds of that with us, but that 2/3rds don't have an O-line to help them to help him. Hip aside, I'm pleased with Harvin. He was brought in for the sole purpose of pushing us over the top and over the top we went.

I am being redundant in saying this again here, but Harvin should now be on the trading block. Get as much out of him as possible before the wheels come off again. He should be worth no less, and maybe more, than when we signed him. His talents are being wasted here and right now, we need heavy equipment more than we need a Ferrari.
Harvin = stud rookie LT, imo.
 

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HawkWow":2oaj0jkc said:
Nobody in this forum was more vocal than myself in disapproving of the Harvin deal. My objections turned into months of arguments. Some ugly. One reason is because I knew his signing meant the departure of Tate and I didn't want to lose Tate. So this is obviously a good time for me to step in and say TOLD YOU SO, right?

Wrong. And I was wrong. Especially now knowing what it would cost to re-sign Tate (too much for this offense). Injury concerns aside (I was right about that), Harvin, by all accounts has been a solid team mate. He's not been the cancer here that he was in Minn. He's been more Dillon than Owens, much to my pleasure.

This mess isn't on Harvin. He's a single player and even "the most dangerous player in the league", needs help. Harvin needs a true 1, or at least a burner, to be truly effective. Excluding his final 10 games with the Vikes, at his best, he had Moss. He also had Favre, AP and an O-line. He has (close to) 2/3rds of that with us, but that 2/3rds don't have an O-line to help them to help him. Hip aside, I'm pleased with Harvin. He was brought in for the sole purpose of pushing us over the top and over the top we went.

I am being redundant in saying this again here, but Harvin should now be on the trading block. Get as much out of him as possible before the wheef come off again. He should be worth no less, and maybe more, than when we signed him. His talents are being wasted here and right now, we need heavy equipment more than we need a Ferrari.
Harvin = stud rookie LT, imo.

I agree with what you said, except for trading him. Our offense has the pieces to be unstoppable, and Harvin Would be a huge piece in that. We just need to pull our head out of our asses and start executing. Theres two reasons why Harvin had success in minne. Mostly just one reason. He's an amazingly talented athlete. And secondly, favre wasn't afraid to throw him the ball. He doesn't need a true number 1. He needs a qb who trusts in him to do what he does, go up and fight for the ball (if he's not wide open that is). That, and an oc who isn't afraid to use Harvin to his full talent.

But speaking of trading for max value, a hypothetical; if we know we are going to lose either Wagner or wright, do we trade them while their stock is red hot, or try to cash in on another Superbowl and lose one of them for nothing?
 

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SomersetHawk":2u2rdsf2 said:
bjornanderson21":2u2rdsf2 said:
cesame":2u2rdsf2 said:
The way Bevell is using him so far is criminal

We're talking about a guy who Adrian Peterson called the best player he's ever played with. As we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player.

Time to figure it out, Bevell.
Please try not to say things like "we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player" because we don't ALL share that opinion.

I think he is the most overrated player in the last 10 years and there are probably 75-100 "wr" that I would choose over him.

Im aware im in the minority, just pointing out that we DO NOT all think/know that.






I miss Tate.

I'm going to call you out on that one. Go on, name 75.

I think (know) Bryan Walters is a better WR than Harvin, so is Baldwin, Kearse, and Lockette. That's 4 wr better than him and thats from a team that seems weak at wr.

Take the top 3 wr from each team basically and Harvin sits at around 100.

Yes, there are literally 75-100 wr I would take over harvin.
 

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bjornanderson21":34nk0983 said:
SomersetHawk":34nk0983 said:
bjornanderson21":34nk0983 said:
cesame":34nk0983 said:
The way Bevell is using him so far is criminal

We're talking about a guy who Adrian Peterson called the best player he's ever played with. As we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player.

Time to figure it out, Bevell.
Please try not to say things like "we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player" because we don't ALL share that opinion.

I think he is the most overrated player in the last 10 years and there are probably 75-100 "wr" that I would choose over him.

Im aware im in the minority, just pointing out that we DO NOT all think/know that.






I miss Tate.

I'm going to call you out on that one. Go on, name 75.

I think (know) Bryan Walters is a better WR than Harvin, so is Baldwin, Kearse, and Lockette. That's 4 wr better than him and thats from a team that seems weak at wr.

Take the top 3 wr from each team basically and Harvin sits at around 100.

Yes, there are literally 75-100 wr I would take over harvin.

Well, thank you for letting me know I shouldn't waste any more time reading your posts...
 

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Percy was on the field for 2 of the 6 third downs that the Seahawks faced in the 4th quarter.

Whoever that guy was that said there are lots of receivers better than Harvin must not have access to the Youtube.
 

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Tical21":11fzpuw8 said:
Percy was on the field for 2 of the 6 third downs that the Seahawks faced in the 4th quarter.

Whoever that guy was that said there are lots of receivers better than Harvin must not have access to the Youtube.
You must be spending too much time on YouTube and not enough time watching the hawks.

The guy in the hawks jersey wearing #11 has been lousy
 

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bjornanderson21":1umdto83 said:
SomersetHawk":1umdto83 said:
bjornanderson21":1umdto83 said:
cesame":1umdto83 said:
The way Bevell is using him so far is criminal

We're talking about a guy who Adrian Peterson called the best player he's ever played with. As we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player.

Time to figure it out, Bevell.
Please try not to say things like "we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player" because we don't ALL share that opinion.

I think he is the most overrated player in the last 10 years and there are probably 75-100 "wr" that I would choose over him.

Im aware im in the minority, just pointing out that we DO NOT all think/know that.






I miss Tate.

I'm going to call you out on that one. Go on, name 75.

I think (know) Bryan Walters is a better WR than Harvin, so is Baldwin, Kearse, and Lockette. That's 4 wr better than him and thats from a team that seems weak at wr.

Take the top 3 wr from each team basically and Harvin sits at around 100.

Yes, there are literally 75-100 wr I would take over harvin.
The sad thing about this is that I think you're actually serious about it.
 

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He has been complaining and ragging on Harvin since we got him non stop, haters gonna hate. When you are so bent on trying to discredit someone you have no objectivity.
 

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The fact that they clearly are not using him the way they should, along w/the fact that Beast had 10 carries.......pathetic.
 

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SoulfishHawk":22e83s8r said:
The fact that they clearly are not using him the way they should, along w/the fact that Beast had 10 carries.......pathetic.

Holmgren was on KJR this morning discussing the Harvin role.

He concluded that he really did not understand why the team has chosen to use him in the "specialist" role they appear to be, and why he was not on the field more in critical situations in the 2nd half vs Dallas. He said something to the effect of 'on the surface it makes no sense...'
 

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