Percy: 6 touches, -1 yard

[BraveHeartFan]

The way Bevell is using him so far is criminal

We're talking about a guy who Adrian Peterson called the best player he's ever played with. As we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player.

Time to figure it out, Bevell.

Please try not to say things like "we all know Percy Harvin is a phenomenal player" because we don't ALL share that opinion.

I think he is the most overrated player in the last 10 years and there are probably 75-100 "wr" that I would choose over him.

Im aware im in the minority, just pointing out that we DO NOT all think/know that.






I miss Tate.

I'm going to call you out on that one. Go on, name 75.

I think (know) Bryan Walters is a better WR than Harvin, so is Baldwin, Kearse, and Lockette. That's 4 wr better than him and thats from a team that seems weak at wr.

Take the top 3 wr from each team basically and Harvin sits at around 100.

Yes, there are literally 75-100 wr I would take over harvin.

Come on man you can't be serious.

Of those 4 guys you're talking about probably only Baldwin could even start on half the other teams in the league. The rest would be 3rd WR's at best.

Harvin could start on most teams in the league. He wouldn't start on all of them (Atlanta for example) but for most of them he would.

He hasn't been used properly this year from what I've seen but this is complete over reaction to think any of those guys are better than Harvin.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

He concluded that he really did not understand why the team has chosen to use him in the "specialist" role they appear to be, and why he was not on the field more in critical situations in the 2nd half vs Dallas. He said something to the effect of 'on the surface it makes no sense...'

The only thing I can think of is Pete likes to run this sort of conservative run the ball and mix in safe short passes and allow Russell to pick his spots for explosive plays.

So he and Bevell just haven't designed that many plays where Percy is an actual threat middle or deep. Because they thought they don't need to with our defense and good run game.

So when the defense ISN'T good, and the run game ISN'T effective..........you get what we saw Sunday, a stagnant offense.

The good news I think this will now change, or at least it should. Pete and Darrell can't possibly go into the next two weeks playing two good defenses that have given us fits with this same plain vanilla low risk college offense.

 

[QuickLightning]

This mess isn't on Harvin. He's a single player and even "the most dangerous player in the league", needs help. Harvin needs a true 1, or at least a burner, to be truly effective.

If you're paying $14 million this year for a WR and he needs a #1 WR ABOVE him to be effective, something is wrong.

For that price, you could have Crabtree (4.7 million) Stevie Johnson (3.9) Anquan Boldin (2.3) Brandon Lloyd (1) and STILL have over 2 million left over...

 

[Missing_Clink]

What is up with Percy on kick returns? Didn't he have 3 last week where he didn't even make it to the 20? And then he had that boneheaded one against Denver where he had no forward momentum and still took it out and didn't even make it to the 10. He doesn't look like anything special on returns right now, and that is where he is supposedly at his best.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

What is up with Percy on kick returns? Didn't he have 3 last week where he didn't even make it to the 20? And then he had that boneheaded one against Denver where he had no forward momentum and still took it out and didn't even make it to the 10. He doesn't look like anything special on returns right now, and that is where he is supposedly at his best.

He had one that made it out to the 40 or 45 didn't he?

Not sure what you expect, but he's not going to take it to the house on every KO. I actually admired Dallas for not being afraid to kick it to him, they did a great job on coverage.

 

[akscoundrel]

What is up with Percy on kick returns? Didn't he have 3 last week where he didn't even make it to the 20? And then he had that boneheaded one against Denver where he had no forward momentum and still took it out and didn't even make it to the 10. He doesn't look like anything special on returns right now, and that is where he is supposedly at his best.

Think it's a combo of a couple things. 1) you get the good with the bad. For every return that he brings to the 50, you'll also get a return where he only takes it to the 15. If the offense is executing and john Ryan is still in beast mode, then I personally don't mind Percy taking chances. I'd like to see him make a little smarter decisions, but that takes me to number 2.

2) his start for the seahawks has been rough, and bevell and wilson haven't made it any easier. The point I'm trying to make is, he wants to make plays and contribute to a win, and he just hasn't really gotten that opportunity on offense. I can understand him making less than smart decisions in this instance.

And yes, as good as Russell Wilson is and as much as I love him, he reality is he does need to improve.

 

[akscoundrel]

Oh, and I guarantee he's frustrated. But guess what, he wasn't the one yelling at Wilson on the sideline. I can only imagine what the comments would be like if it were Harvin and not baldwin giving Wilson an earful.

 

[brimsalabim]

What is up with Percy on kick returns? Didn't he have 3 last week where he didn't even make it to the 20? And then he had that boneheaded one against Denver where he had no forward momentum and still took it out and didn't even make it to the 10. He doesn't look like anything special on returns right now, and that is where he is supposedly at his best.

Not sure what you expect,.

I think its pretty obvious. He expects Percy to at least make it to the 20.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

What is up with Percy on kick returns? Didn't he have 3 last week where he didn't even make it to the 20? And then he had that boneheaded one against Denver where he had no forward momentum and still took it out and didn't even make it to the 10. He doesn't look like anything special on returns right now, and that is where he is supposedly at his best.

Not sure what you expect,.

I think its pretty obvious. He expects Percy to at least make it to the 20.

Even if the averages say that if you take the ball out from mid to deep in the endzone that you're not going to make it to the 20? Seems illogical.

 

[chris98251]

How many guys injured are on Kick off? We use starters a lot on special teams, If our guys are not blocking or taking out the gunners that can affect things. I know Lane is one that excels at knocking his speed guys out of bounds etc.

 

[brimsalabim]

What is up with Percy on kick returns? Didn't he have 3 last week where he didn't even make it to the 20? And then he had that boneheaded one against Denver where he had no forward momentum and still took it out and didn't even make it to the 10. He doesn't look like anything special on returns right now, and that is where he is supposedly at his best.

Not sure what you expect,.

I think its pretty obvious. He expects Percy to at least make it to the 20.

Even if the averages say that if you take the ball out from mid to deep in the endzone that you're not going to make it to the 20? Seems illogical.

So does running the ball out from deep in the end zone when you can take it on the 20.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

So does running the ball out from deep in the end zone when you can take it on the 20.

I don't blame Percy for trying to make a play. I'll take that gamble every time.

But in the end it's unrealistic to think Percy's going to bust one loose on every return.........which is seems is what you guys are saying. Actually I'm not really sure what you guys are saying. Percy's not living up to his end of the bargain on KO's, grumble grumble, something something.

 

[Largent80]

With the kickoff at the 35 it has made returns almost moot. A terrible rule in my opinion.

I love the aspect of a long return when I see Percy back there and I'm glad he is a Hawk.

Bevell, can you PLEASE ditch your current use of him and quit using him as a decoy or a running back? That is ok rarely, but not as a staple to the offense. Bevell should be the C'Mon Man .NET version.