Sealake80":1lkhaeo5 said:Wilson will be the leader on offense with Lynch gone. I think he will take a next step this year. He's a hall of famer in the making and his greatest performances are still to come. Can't wait.
Not totally convinced Chris. You are correct that he doesn't lead like Marshawn but he leads, but with far more of a cool and precise manner. Like many of the best quarterbacks in history. See the thing is if you do the job correctly you make it easy for the defense to play downhill from the start.chris98251":1rk3dmua said:Sealake80":1rk3dmua said:Wilson will be the leader on offense with Lynch gone. I think he will take a next step this year. He's a hall of famer in the making and his greatest performances are still to come. Can't wait.
Leader yes, emotional sparkplug and person that sets the tone I have reservations, he the essence of self control. Not the fiery guy, not the set the tone with physicality or attitude.
My thoughts too..When Kearly said 14-2 I'm stoked now..GO HAWKS!!!hawksfansinceday1":3im50qxr said:Talk about some GREAT posts all in one thread....a tip of the cap to every single post above this one. This is why I'm here too much. You all got me stoked for the season NOW!
Most painful? Wide right by Norwood is top.Hasselbeck":23a60b09 said:We had the most painful loss in the history of the league.
We had a QB making peanuts due for his big payday.
We had two huge players on the defensive side of the ball wanting more money, one of whom was willing to sit out 2 actual games to try and prove a point.
We had an entire secondary recovering from injury and as a result overpaid for a player who just was never a fit on this team.
We had Marshawn Lynch wanting a pay raise to put off retirement for a year.
We overhauled the offensive line with 3 new starters including losing the veteran anchor in the middle.
We had a team that was split in half and fighting with each other until a trip to Hawaii.
We got boned on the schedule to start the season.
And despite all of these things they found a way to finish on a tear, get into the playoffs and without one of the best onside recoveries you'll ever see by Thomas Davis.. may very well have found themselves back in Glendale with a shot at a third straight Super Bowl.
Really if you look back at everything thrown the Seahawks way in 2015.. it's pretty remarkable they won 11 games (10 + 1 playoff game) in itself. Now it feels as though XLIX is but a faint memory, a crappy memory, but kind of like a tough break-up .. the wounds are finally healing even if some things may still eat at you.
If the Seahawks can avoid being the unlucky team with a mountain of injuries.. they're unquestionably one of the 3 best teams in football in 2016. No doubt in my mind.
So yeah, in that sense.. this definitely feels like a rebirth.
Only by anyone east of the Mississippi.seabowl":yy4fxs7r said:Most painful? Wide right by Norwood is top.Hasselbeck":yy4fxs7r said:We had the most painful loss in the history of the league.
We had a QB making peanuts due for his big payday.
We had two huge players on the defensive side of the ball wanting more money, one of whom was willing to sit out 2 actual games to try and prove a point.
We had an entire secondary recovering from injury and as a result overpaid for a player who just was never a fit on this team.
We had Marshawn Lynch wanting a pay raise to put off retirement for a year.
We overhauled the offensive line with 3 new starters including losing the veteran anchor in the middle.
We had a team that was split in half and fighting with each other until a trip to Hawaii.
We got boned on the schedule to start the season.
And despite all of these things they found a way to finish on a tear, get into the playoffs and without one of the best onside recoveries you'll ever see by Thomas Davis.. may very well have found themselves back in Glendale with a shot at a third straight Super Bowl.
Really if you look back at everything thrown the Seahawks way in 2015.. it's pretty remarkable they won 11 games (10 + 1 playoff game) in itself. Now it feels as though XLIX is but a faint memory, a crappy memory, but kind of like a tough break-up .. the wounds are finally healing even if some things may still eat at you.
If the Seahawks can avoid being the unlucky team with a mountain of injuries.. they're unquestionably one of the 3 best teams in football in 2016. No doubt in my mind.
So yeah, in that sense.. this definitely feels like a rebirth.
Largent80":22zfd388 said:Let's hope it doesn't end up like afterbirth.
I couldn't disagree more. Watch any of the in game sound bites from Wilson. The guy never gives up and demands his teammates dont either. His leadership style is different from a Lynch but the end result is the same. He's a fighter who never gives up and his teammates know that. My favorite example of this is the sound clips from the Carolina game. It's worth checking out.chris98251":3geu205z said:Sealake80":3geu205z said:Wilson will be the leader on offense with Lynch gone. I think he will take a next step this year. He's a hall of famer in the making and his greatest performances are still to come. Can't wait.
Leader yes, emotional sparkplug and person that sets the tone I have reservations, he the essence of self control. Not the fiery guy, not the set the tone with physicality or attitude.
MizzouHawkGal":2mi3l1ka said:Well that's the kind of thing that happens to both Superbowl participants especially the loser. It's why they call it a hangover. A million little things happen which causes lack of focus except in rare cases. And exceeding rare in the modern salary cap era.Scottemojo":2mi3l1ka said:MizzouHawkGal":2mi3l1ka said:They are when you lose in the fashion that we did. Also it doesn't help that the league figured out how to combat our defense if you had the talent at a couple key positions.Scottemojo":2mi3l1ka said:I think Pete feels this way because they are going to try some new permutations on defense and offense.
SB hangovers are real.
On the other hand I agree with you that some changes will happen especially offensively. If for nothing else then the fact the focus will be on Russell Wilson far more than ever before.
It has way more to do with a bad line and a Kam holdout. And a really bad signing of a CB from Philly. It took half a year to shake those issues. That was the hangover I refer to.
austinslater25":23twzcro said:I couldn't disagree more. Watch any of the in game sound bites from Wilson. The guy never gives up and demands his teammates dont either. His leadership style is different from a Lynch but the end result is the same. He's a fighter who never gives up and his teammates know that. My favorite example of this is the sound clips from the Carolina game. It's worth checking out.chris98251":23twzcro said:Sealake80":23twzcro said:Wilson will be the leader on offense with Lynch gone. I think he will take a next step this year. He's a hall of famer in the making and his greatest performances are still to come. Can't wait.
Leader yes, emotional sparkplug and person that sets the tone I have reservations, he the essence of self control. Not the fiery guy, not the set the tone with physicality or attitude.
kearly":1i9mue6c said:Everyone is comparing 2016 to 2013, but to me, this upcoming season is a bit more like 2012. It has a "new era" kind of feel to it. I get what Pete means when he talks about the team going through a rebirth.
Barthawk":t60rtjl4 said:2012 we had a rookie at QB, MLB and a secondary cutting their teeth in the NFL. Now all of those players are All-pro (minus the RCB). Apples n oranges. That QB is one of the best in the league and keeps us in every game we play.
Defense still has 9/11 starters from last year.. The only new era feel would be the OL, but that really isn't a new thing around here.
kearly":t60rtjl4 said:Seattle has lost two SBs, and felt big dropoffs the next season after both of them. I definitely subscribe to the idea that morale matters in football.
Tical21":1khb1g42 said:I agree with the feeling. It seemed like last year they were playing under the pressure of living up to the success of 2013 and 2014, trying to hold onto that era.
With Marshawn leaving, among others, it feels like they're ready to start a new era, rather than try to hold continue the previous one.
chris98251":14gsjnpl said:Sealake80":14gsjnpl said:Wilson will be the leader on offense with Lynch gone. I think he will take a next step this year. He's a hall of famer in the making and his greatest performances are still to come. Can't wait.
Leader yes, emotional sparkplug and person that sets the tone I have reservations, he the essence of self control. Not the fiery guy, not the set the tone with physicality or attitude.