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Nice picture lol
Nice picture lol
hawksfan515":v76h5x3f said:McGruff":v76h5x3f said:NINEster":v76h5x3f said:Attyla the Hawk":v76h5x3f said:And yet the bottom 3 of this list are among the top 10 in the NFL.
Yet again an example that if you're going to skimp somewhere on your team -- do it on the OL.
Not that I really consider PFF to be entirely accurate in their grading. Basically they are the public authority because they are the only ones that consider taking the effort. Even still, there isn't a premium on OL quality as it relates to wins. It's one way to be successful. But you can be 'terrible' at it and still be amongst the best in the league.
Not in January.
In 2012 the Seahawas were one play away from the Superbowl with the 20th ranked OL.
In 2013 the Seahawks won the Superbowl with the 27th ranked OL.
In 2014 the Seahawas were one play away from winning the Superbowl with the 19th ranked OL.
In 2015 the Seahawks made it to the 2nd round with the 30th tanked OL.
That's 4 consequetive deep playoff runs, 2 Superbowl appearances and one championship, all with a bad offensive line.
You mean the NFC championship game against the 49ers, right?
Sgt. Largent":140qpwnr said:Is it really that hard to believe we have the worse line?
I mean, yeah they're getting better, but they were pretty damn bad before the Niners game, and even last week allowed what three sacks and Michael didn't run for much?
Hawks46":2rzfqp9d said:Sgt. Largent":2rzfqp9d said:Is it really that hard to believe we have the worse line?
I mean, yeah they're getting better, but they were pretty damn bad before the Niners game, and even last week allowed what three sacks and Michael didn't run for much?
The Rams' DL makes a lot of OL's look bad.
Hawks46":27037l3d said:Sgt. Largent":27037l3d said:Is it really that hard to believe we have the worse line?
I mean, yeah they're getting better, but they were pretty damn bad before the Niners game, and even last week allowed what three sacks and Michael didn't run for much?
The Rams' DL makes a lot of OL's look bad.
It's back to that question: are they bad, or did they look bad against elite competition ?
McGruff":13khzjij said:And yet the bottom 3 of this list are among the top 10 in the NFL.
Yet again an example that if you're going to skimp somewhere on your team -- do it on the OL.
Not that I really consider PFF to be entirely accurate in their grading. Basically they are the public authority because they are the only ones that consider taking the effort. Even still, there isn't a premium on OL quality as it relates to wins. It's one way to be successful. But you can be 'terrible' at it and still be amongst the best in the league.
The one for IfediLeftHandSmoke":2y48oqag said:There's a new Field Gulls Grade (FGG) rating being done over there, it's kinda fun. The guy rates an O lineman on every offensive play then averages it. Includes commentary on the outliers, good and bad plays.
Hawknballs":1jy2itly said:can't keep using the "we've done it before with a bad line" as justification for continually neglecting it or trying to patch it up with FA cast-offs and converted D linemen.
Marshawn Lynch was like having an extra o-line guy on the field.
Russell Wilson isn't getting any younger. The older he gets the less effective his wheels are going to be.
scutterhawk":1313jq4z said:Hawknballs":1313jq4z said:can't keep using the "we've done it before with a bad line" as justification for continually neglecting it or trying to patch it up with FA cast-offs and converted D linemen.
Marshawn Lynch was like having an extra o-line guy on the field.
Russell Wilson isn't getting any younger. The older he gets the less effective his wheels are going to be.
If y'all remember back to mid season last year, Tom Cable was dialing in a more pass oriented Offensive line, and the statement he made about how Marshawn Lynch having to make some changeup in his game when he comes back to play.
You can see Tom Cable working & transitioning the O-Line to giving Russell Wilson some semblance of pocket to pass from, but it's also going to require RW to unload the ball a little quicker, and thus take some of the pressure off the guys that are trying to fend off the would be hits & sacks on him.
Judging by the last game, I thing they're doing a pretty good job of putting the whole package together.
The O-line is only going to get better with continuity, and the better they get, the more creative the play calls can be.
johnnyfever":18e8lxkb said:What data points are used to determine the rating? Missed assignments? hurried passes? sacks? runs stuffed? etc. It would be interesting to know how they rate this as the top teams are at the bottom. In order to be a qualified rating, you would need a consistent data set to compare teams at an apple to apple level. Seems like they just read headlines from hack writers from a few weeks prior.