PLEASE !!! don't resign Penny.

[hawks85]

The overall body of work is not there, but man when he is healthy and on the field, he is a difference-maker. It's a hard one. That's what she said.


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It's a hard one. That's what she said LMAO.

 

[hawks85]

He just exploded for possibly the best 6 or 7 game stretch by a running back since Barry Sanders was playing, and we call this unproven?

His talent is undeniable. His injury status is the questionable portion.

I know right. Had Penny been playing like this the whole season he would have rushed for about 2800 yards, I did the math on this. Not only is that nothing to sneeze at, but also would have SHATTERED Sanders record by a large margin.

 

[xray]

he's gonna get a 2 or 3 year deal with attached incentives . Carroll will keep him . Like it or not .

 

[Chawker]

They'll sign him to a 8 mill per year deal and he'll suffer a uvula injury week one and miss the rest of the year. :177692:

 

[hawkfan68]

This is an article by Corbin Smith regarding Penny - https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...ahawks/ar-AAU0eyA?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnbfcL

"Per Pro Football Reference, only five running backs since 1950 produced over 700 rushing yards, scored at least six rushing touchdowns, and averaged at least six yards per carry in the final six games of the season. Most recently, Titans star Derrick Henry accomplished the feat in back to back seasons in 2019 and 2020. Hall of Famer Barry Sanders, Clinton Portis, DeAngelo Williams, and Jamaal Charles also hit those marks to close out a season one time apiece."

The CBA also allows for 4 year qualifying contract - https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/2/1...ontract-retain-dissly-brown-pocic-penny-jones

This could be something the Seahawks could do with Penny.

 

[Spohawks]

The half hit wonder. It's time to throw out all the RBs and start fresh. Who is a semi starter that's not a headache?

 

[olyfan63]

The half hit wonder. It's time to throw out all the RBs and start fresh. Who is a semi starter that's not a headache?

Well, DJ Dallas, but he's no Penny as a runner. Serviceable fill-in.
Homer actually broke 1 or 2 tackles this season, but nah, his value is on special teams and occasional 3rd down, not as a runner.

Maybe get lucky in the draft with another Carson or Rawls who can give us a season or two before their body breaks.

 

[AgentDib]

The reason why NFL teams don't really do incentive laden contracts is that they aren't that helpful for the cap. They might let you roll over some cap to a following year if a player underperforms, but in the current year you are required to account for LTBE (likely to be earned) incentives as if they were guaranteed money. So stuff like workout bonuses and reasonable thresholds for games played and rushing yards affect the cap either way.

It's time to throw out all the RBs and start fresh. Who is a semi starter that's not a headache?

I can see the appeal but in business this is an attitude to resist. Look at it instead as the coaching staff being paid well to deal with headaches and get every last bit of advantage they can wherever they can. If a player on the roster has any value at all then cutting him just because it would simplify matters is ultimately a disservice to the team.

The CBA also allows for 4 year qualifying contract - https://www.fieldgulls.com/2022/2/17/22 ... enny-jones. This could be something the Seahawks could do with Penny.

My bet is Penny well eclipsed the 4 year qualifying value despite starting just 6 games. That could be a fair average offer for him given his injury history, but of course free agents have the luxury to sign with the highest offer instead of the average. The kind of numbers Penny put up when he was on the field were superb and at least one team out there is going to think he's a gamble worth more than a 2m/1yr flier.

 

[sutz]

Someone will sign Penney. I would prefer it be us. :229031_shrug:

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Are you ok Mike? How in the hell does any of this have to do with Biden? :?

 

[Appyhawk]

C'mon guys. This is the FOOTBALL board. Stick to football and leave race and politics out of discussion, as our rules require.

 

[fire_marshall_bill]

He had big games against inferior teams IIRC

Don't throw too much money his way.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

You can only play the teams the put in front of you. He was DAMN good.

 

[ivotuk]

He had big games against inferior teams IIRC

Don't throw too much money his way.

Everybody said Cincinnati was an inferior team. EVERY team in the NFL had good players and is tough to run against. You cannot call a team inferior unless you show that stats for it. Just throwing a word out there to prove one's point weakens your argument because it says; "I have no argument, so let me throw a rumor out there."

Here are some numbers:

Positive Run Percentage - 82.4%

Average Yards AFTER contact - 3.7 Yards

Average Yards AFTER the catch - 10.2 Yards Tyler Lockett Average Yards AFTER the catch - 4.4 Yards

https://www.rotowire.com/football/player.php?id=12830

https://www.rotowire.com/football/player.php?id=10161

 

[oldhawkfan]

If they don’t resign Penny then that is an additional roster spot that will need to be addressed. As it stands now if Penny is resigned, they will still have to spend some draft capital or in free agency to sign someone else. If Chris Carson is unable to resume his career (highly likely), then RB becomes a much higher priority to fill than if they just resign Penny. For every draft pick used on a potential RB, that is one less draft pick that can be used on other needs. They know what they have in Penny. They know better than anyone on this board. They know how talented he is. They know about his injury history.

If Penny is resigned I highly expect them to also grab a RB somewhere in the draft as insurance. This team also needs help on both lines as well as other areas. Not signing a guy with his talent, who you are completely familiar with is a no brainer if he has never or rarely produced. See CJ Procise. The thing is, Penny is not Procise. Penny went on a tear to end the season that has hardly been seen in the NFL.

I often see posts about fans wanting the team to get rid of players because a.) they don’t measure up to their preconceived notions of how that certain player or players should play. Or b.) because they just don’t like them. I think Penny falls under both categories. At the end of the day, or rather end of the offseason, a team needs to field the best possible version of themselves. This means making hard decisions either way on their own free agents, signing other teams FA, and hoping they fit with what you want to do. It means hoping to hit on at least 2-3 draft picks that will be impact type players fairly quick.

Just like us regular folks, we have to determine how much capital we can use each month wisely to feed our family. If we don’t have the capital to buy a nice juicy steak then we might have to make do with a little freezer burned pork chop until the funds change. Dont empty your freezer of everything because it might be bad and then find yourself with no money for groceries other than ramen noodles for a month.

 

[TheLegendOfBoom]

The Seahawks don’t have many draft picks to begin with but a notable room for signing players.

I honestly think Penny will get signed because Pete loves Penny.

Pete has had every opportunity to cut/release/trade Penny but he’s kept Penny.

Hopefully, Penny, will get signed for a lower rate.

 

[chris98251]

Penny is low mileage, he put on a contract show at the end of the season, it will be 5 million and 3 million in bonus money for someone a year or more. Bargains are for declining players or coming off an injury on one-year deals to prove themselves. Penny did all that at the end of the year.

 

[LTH]

this is NOT a difficult decision to make. its a no brainer.. you sign him to a two year deal incentive laced...


LTH

 

[Chawker]

The more players we sign that have been the problem, the more chances we have of being 7-10 again !!! Stupidity in the first place, should dictate that we cut him, rather than doubling down .

WE WON'T WIN A CHAMPSHIP WITH HIM !!!

 

[Sports Hernia]

He just exploded for possibly the best 6 or 7 game stretch by a running back since Barry Sanders was playing, and we call this unproven?

His talent is undeniable. His injury status is the questionable portion.

This.