Proposal: Write off week 17 and the division.

[SantaClaraHawk]

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[SanDiego49er]

Dee and Richburg are great to haves, but you're not killed by them not being there. Dee hasn't been taking all the snaps even when healthy, which he often isn't. Your team has mostly adjusted and continues to win.

Whereas we at RB have one healthy guy who came off the PS. He might be great someday but for now he's a special teams guy being forced into the role. Our greatest hope is Beast and his backup.

And apparently Turbin has sailed through but there's still a delay with Marshawn (the one signing that'd cheer me up even as it is likely futile). PC/JS shouldn't have blown the horn saying he had a great chance to be hired if there was going to be a weed question. Which there should have been given that ML's been publicly seen lighting blunts off the torch at Raiders Stadium.

Dee Ford is a pretty big deal. Our pass rush is really ferocious with him and Bosa both coming off the edge. Then Armstead and Buckner coming in the middle. That's a monstrous front 4. You can drop 7 into coverage with that. Because that is enough to get there and cause a lot of problems. It's kind of a big deal not having him even if he can only come in on 3rd downs and be a pass rush specialist. It was different in the beginning of the year with 2 edger rushers who can get there. Lots more sacks, interceptions, and fumbles caused.

 

[johnnyfever]

If the vikings win tonight, we lose next week and the other games play along with the odds, we end up playing the eagles I believe. After playing with the ESPN calculator, I think this is the best result as getting 1 or 2 seed is a longshot. Other options are playing the viks or packers in the wild card round. I would much rather play the eagles.

 

[SanDiego49er]

If the vikings win tonight, we lose next week and the other games play along with the odds, we end up playing the eagles I believe. After playing with the ESPN calculator, I think this is the best result as getting 1 or 2 seed is a longshot. Other options are playing the viks or packers in the wild card round. I would much rather play the eagles.

I would rather play the Eagles for sure and I think you can beat them if it goes that route. The Eagles aren't that intimidating.

 

[getnasty]

I agree with the idea espically since the 3 seed is the best we can do and to be honest i feel better playing the Eagles on the road then i do the Vikings at home. The think i can't agree with is not trying to win the division it just sends a bad message in my opinion.

 

[Uncle Si]

I agree with the idea espically since the 3 seed is the best we can do and to be honest i feel better playing the Eagles on the road then i do the Vikings at home. The think i can't agree with is not trying to win the division it just sends a bad message in my opinion.

Sort of where I'm at. I think we are at worst a 5 now.. Which means the Eagles in Philly.

Take the week to work out some kinks and get healthy... if possible.

 

[renofox]

If GB wins, PC will probably sit everyone and take the loss.

3 seed = vs. Vikings
5 seed = @Eagles (slight chance @Cowboys)

Road game may be easier win. To make SB either way still have to win 2 of @SF, @NO, or @GB.

Losing and resting dinged players may be best strategy against such long odds.

If GB loses I think we get the 2 seed with a win so gotta go for it in that case.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Just for clarification, when I wrote the post, I didn't think that there was any actual chance of this happening. Particularly with Beast Mode back - they didn't bring him back to sit him.

I still think it has merit, particularly with the Vikings loss, and our home and away record.

And, part of my original rationale was the GB/Vikings game was 50/50, and with our injuries, I'm guessing (but not hoping) that our chances with the 49ers were like 20 or 30% - so despite the hoping, I don't think we were really ever playing for the #2 seed after the loss to the cards.

The real question in it I guess is the same as one of the original responders to the post: WHO would we potentially get back with a week of additional rest?

 

[SantaClaraHawk]

Just for clarification, when I wrote the post, I didn't think that there was any actual chance of this happening. Particularly with Beast Mode back - they didn't bring him back to sit him.

I still think it has merit, particularly with the Vikings loss, and our home and away record.

And, part of my original rationale was the GB/Vikings game was 50/50, and with our injuries, I'm guessing (but not hoping) that our chances with the 49ers were like 20 or 30% - so despite the hoping, I don't think we were really ever playing for the #2 seed after the loss to the cards.

The real question in it I guess is the same as one of the original responders to the post: WHO would we potentially get back with a week of additional rest?

Clowney and Diggs. After GB's win against MIN, it's more possible they sit to be rested against hopefully PHI.

I'd be surprised, though. I think if there's any way Clowney can go, they're gonna let him based on the 11/11 game.

Even if he does, though, it's time for some Eagles-style creative playcalling. RRP/coach challenges/not going for it on 4th and 1 are just gonna guarantee us two losses that might be closer ones. What good is that.

 

[pmedic920]

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[renofox]

PC should rest all dinged players and give young players some playing time for evaluation.

I think, instead, we'll see an even worse injury situation for the wildcard game.

 

[CalgaryFan05]

Yup - said it a week ago and still think we should throw the game. You can win the battle and lose the war on this type of game. I know, I know "Always Compete". Right up until we get 2 or 3 more injuries because of the stress on other non-injured starters - and are done for the season.

I truly hope I'm wrong.

 

[sutz]

Can't play scared. If there is something to play for, and there is, you play to win.

Talk about a fan letdown after all the Marshawn hype, folks would go crazy if we don't play to win.

 

[mikeak]

Yup - said it a week ago and still think we should throw the game. You can win the battle and lose the war on this type of game. I know, I know "Always Compete". Right up until we get 2 or 3 more injuries because of the stress on other non-injured starters - and are done for the season.

I truly hope I'm wrong.

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Speculated about this even earlier and was told how stupid I was. Strategically it is IMHO simple. Treat this like a bye week, rest injured and key players. Play Dallas / Eagles on the road vs Vikings at home. Very simple

However strategic thinking isn't liked here if it means losing. There is also the fact that these things can work out strange ways. Remember Indy resting against the Jets a bunch of years ago? Then losing to Jets in the playoffs....ooops

 

[getnasty]

Play to win only because it leaves you a chance for 2 home games maybe and even if you don't win it's not all that bad.

 

[MontanaHawk05]

It isn't strategic to surrender a shot at a home playoff game.

And no, Seattle's record this year doesn't invalidate the sweeping overall statistical advantage of a home game. They drew a #1 and #2 seed at home this year, then a division rival that always plays us well. Home games matter.

 

[mikeak]

It isn't strategic to surrender a shot at a home playoff game.

And no, Seattle's record this year doesn't invalidate the sweeping overall statistical advantage of a home game. They drew a #1 and #2 seed at home this year, then a division rival that always plays us well. Home games matter.

What is Seattle's home vs away record this season?....

The travel mileage for the second game is what matters the most. Getting to a second game should be first priority

 

[John63]

The idea that we would want to throw a game is ridiculous.

 

[IndyHawk]

The idea that we would want to throw a game is ridiculous.

For once I agree with John..The.Idea is totally wack.
You take the highest seed you can period.

 

[chris98251]

The guys that want us to throw this game away are also the ones happy with a Participation trophy.