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He looked like RW running for his life at times. I'm glad he has some experience playing behind a poor O-Line. He would fit perfectly in the Cable/Bevel Seahawks Team.
Jville":3jryf2wo said:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Curtis_Crabtree/status/990373797193695233[/tweet]
Fade":12jl9psm said:hawknation2018":12jl9psm said:Fade":12jl9psm said:His arm is too good to be a 7th rounder. Combined with his ability to evade pressure, and throw on the run. This is looking like highway robbery right now, I am not going to lie.Jville":12jl9psm said:[youtube]B53P_np5t4Y[/youtube]
I don't think anyone should confuse him for someone with good arm strength.
I'm not saying he has a 1st rd cannon like Josh Allen.
1st play he throws the go with ease. With the ball traveling 50 yds. Looked like he could of put more on it. Placed it in a perfect spot to avoid the turnover, yet still gives his receiver a chance to run after the catch. He takes it to the house. Might have been lucky, but he did complete 65% of his passes.
2nd play evades intense pressure, spins out to his left while on the run tosses it 50 yds.
3rd/4th.5th plays show his mobility on some zone reads. He has + movement for a QB with good size 6-3, but hard to tell how dynamic he really is given the level of competition. Ran 4.62 at his Pro Day, and he is slippery in the pocket.
6th play. Fires it nearly 60 yds for the TD, and put it a little more on a line than his prevous 2 throws. It looked very reminiscent to an RW broken play.
7th play. Another RW esque escape spotting & evading a rusher coming from the blind side who had him dead to rights. Showing a great feel for the rush, scrambles out to his left again on the run. Perfect placement on a 50/50 jump ball for the TD.
8th play. Escapes to his right flings it across his body about 45 yds width wise. That's a no no, they should of cut that from his highlight tape. It was a half duck, and probably picked off against NFL players.
9th play. Forced to bail to his right, guns it while throwing on the run. Hitting the hook route to move the chains. NFL throw, and he aimed it away toward the sideline so if he did miss it wouldn't be a turnover.
10th play. NFL throw again, far hash deep out route. Perfect placement. The test throw for NFL arm strength.
He does have a bit of a wobble on his ball which is weird, but he completed 65% of throws despite that.
I am very intrigued by this pick, and am looking forward to him getting #2 reps at some point in the pre-season to get a better evaluation on him.
chris98251":117ngbsc said:Although hard to judge his arm, every play almost he is playing Hero ball as people have dubbed it and not really had a pocket to set up and throw in. Fact that he can run right and throw left to the other hash mark does say something however.
ivotuk":21a11xmk said:Is it pronounced "MaGoo" or "McGoff"?
ivotuk":6z6tt0qj said:Fade":6z6tt0qj said:hawknation2018":6z6tt0qj said:Fade":6z6tt0qj said:His arm is too good to be a 7th rounder. Combined with his ability to evade pressure, and throw on the run. This is looking like highway robbery right now, I am not going to lie.
I don't think anyone should confuse him for someone with good arm strength.
I'm not saying he has a 1st rd cannon like Josh Allen.
1st play he throws the go with ease. With the ball traveling 50 yds. Looked like he could of put more on it. Placed it in a perfect spot to avoid the turnover, yet still gives his receiver a chance to run after the catch. He takes it to the house. Might have been lucky, but he did complete 65% of his passes.
2nd play evades intense pressure, spins out to his left while on the run tosses it 50 yds.
3rd/4th.5th plays show his mobility on some zone reads. He has + movement for a QB with good size 6-3, but hard to tell how dynamic he really is given the level of competition. Ran 4.62 at his Pro Day, and he is slippery in the pocket.
6th play. Fires it nearly 60 yds for the TD, and put it a little more on a line than his prevous 2 throws. It looked very reminiscent to an RW broken play.
7th play. Another RW esque escape spotting & evading a rusher coming from the blind side who had him dead to rights. Showing a great feel for the rush, scrambles out to his left again on the run. Perfect placement on a 50/50 jump ball for the TD.
8th play. Escapes to his right flings it across his body about 45 yds width wise. That's a no no, they should of cut that from his highlight tape. It was a half duck, and probably picked off against NFL players.
9th play. Forced to bail to his right, guns it while throwing on the run. Hitting the hook route to move the chains. NFL throw, and he aimed it away toward the sideline so if he did miss it wouldn't be a turnover.
10th play. NFL throw again, far hash deep out route. Perfect placement. The test throw for NFL arm strength.
He does have a bit of a wobble on his ball which is weird, but he completed 65% of throws despite that.
I am very intrigued by this pick, and am looking forward to him getting #2 reps at some point in the pre-season to get a better evaluation on him.
Nice breakdown, thank you for that :2thumbs:
JPC4Days":77ek4kzv said:So to the people that thought he showed a good arm on tape... Pete said he showed "Really good arm strength" twice and good mobility and accuracy...but
I was looking for his hand size and it is of the dreaded 91/8 Jared Goff variety... unless that measurement is wrong could you say we found a red flag.
I am just having some fun... to be frank I wish he had the Russ mitts as a Seattle wet ball thrower... but he will showcase his abilities to the league during the preseason only... God willing and it is still pretty nice that time of year. I could have the wrong information also... and you would prefer ...the big paws... but this is really a non issue ...just stirring the pot ... Tom Brady has small hands ... #Deflategate
chris98251":3vzt9ryu said:JPC4Days":3vzt9ryu said:So to the people that thought he showed a good arm on tape... Pete said he showed "Really good arm strength" twice and good mobility and accuracy...but
I was looking for his hand size and it is of the dreaded 91/8 Jared Goff variety... unless that measurement is wrong could you say we found a red flag.
I am just having some fun... to be frank I wish he had the Russ mitts as a Seattle wet ball thrower... but he will showcase his abilities to the league during the preseason only... God willing and it is still pretty nice that time of year. I could have the wrong information also... and you would prefer ...the big paws... but this is really a non issue ...just stirring the pot ... Tom Brady has small hands ... #Deflategate
Two things, QB's all have a way they hold the ball, smaller hands if they grip too tight can cause it to squirt out if they tend to grip it too fat, also some like to swing it out rather then keep it close to their body. Big hand guy can do that much like palming a basketball, when a smaller guy does it usually any bump it will squirt loose also. It will depend on what type of ball security he has.
I actually like this pick. Kid plays balls to the wall. Bit of a risk taker, but also shows he can come off his first read. Not unlike Lauletta really, who I liked.
JPC4Days":18czkomm said:chris98251":18czkomm said:JPC4Days":18czkomm said:So to the people that thought he showed a good arm on tape... Pete said he showed "Really good arm strength" twice and good mobility and accuracy...but
I was looking for his hand size and it is of the dreaded 91/8 Jared Goff variety... unless that measurement is wrong could you say we found a red flag.
I am just having some fun... to be frank I wish he had the Russ mitts as a Seattle wet ball thrower... but he will showcase his abilities to the league during the preseason only... God willing and it is still pretty nice that time of year. I could have the wrong information also... and you would prefer ...the big paws... but this is really a non issue ...just stirring the pot ... Tom Brady has small hands ... #Deflategate
Two things, QB's all have a way they hold the ball, smaller hands if they grip too tight can cause it to squirt out if they tend to grip it too fat, also some like to swing it out rather then keep it close to their body. Big hand guy can do that much like palming a basketball, when a smaller guy does it usually any bump it will squirt loose also. It will depend on what type of ball security he has.
I found that measurement on the internet sooo... it could be wrong and ... I was a little bit bummed when I read it but bounced back pretty quick. This will at least give haters something to talk about but I get it ...they measure the hand for a reason... how big were Steve Young's hands... or Joe Montana's... I couldn't find those numbers but plenty of dudes make this a non issue.
So is it harder to play QB with 9 1/8 hands or LB with only one hand?