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MontanaHawk05":3a2byh9z said:
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Penny is becoming a perimeter specialist-and a damn good one at that, but as teams get more film, they're going to be expecting that toss sweep everytime he's in there. It's inperative for him to keep the D honest by getting at least 3 up the middle. Until he can consistently do that, I anticipate teams begin adjusting.

He's already doing that. To say he's only a perimeter specialist is silly. He sticks it up and gets 3 yards, it's just he's not popping 8-10 yard gains consistently as Chis is.

If you want a 4.0 YPC, you need those 8-10 yard gains occasionally to balance out the inevitable 0-2 yard losses that come with the territory.

He is averaging half a yard more per carry than Carson. Too bad always compete isn’t in play here.
 

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ImTheScientist":egfn45m7 said:
MontanaHawk05":egfn45m7 said:
jlwaters1":egfn45m7 said:
West TX Hawk":egfn45m7 said:
Penny is becoming a perimeter specialist-and a damn good one at that, but as teams get more film, they're going to be expecting that toss sweep everytime he's in there. It's inperative for him to keep the D honest by getting at least 3 up the middle. Until he can consistently do that, I anticipate teams begin adjusting.

He's already doing that. To say he's only a perimeter specialist is silly. He sticks it up and gets 3 yards, it's just he's not popping 8-10 yard gains consistently as Chis is.

If you want a 4.0 YPC, you need those 8-10 yard gains occasionally to balance out the inevitable 0-2 yard losses that come with the territory.

He is averaging half a yard more per carry than Carson. Too bad always compete isn’t in play here.
As people have been trying to demonstrate to you, Penny has gained yards on different types of plays than Carson. Sorry about your fantasy stats and all, but right now Carson is the logical choice for starter. He really is.
 

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sutz":3q12d8ks said:
ImTheScientist":3q12d8ks said:
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jlwaters1":3q12d8ks said:
He's already doing that. To say he's only a perimeter specialist is silly. He sticks it up and gets 3 yards, it's just he's not popping 8-10 yard gains consistently as Chis is.

If you want a 4.0 YPC, you need those 8-10 yard gains occasionally to balance out the inevitable 0-2 yard losses that come with the territory.

He is averaging half a yard more per carry than Carson. Too bad always compete isn’t in play here.
As people have been trying to demonstrate to you, Penny has gained yards on different types of plays than Carson. Sorry about your fantasy stats and all, but right now Carson is the logical choice for starter. He really is.
They're a SOLID one-two punch. Teams continue to stack the box in an effort to stop it, now the play action opens up HUGE holes in defenses. I love it the way it is.
 

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sutz":249xra0x said:
ImTheScientist":249xra0x said:
MontanaHawk05":249xra0x said:
jlwaters1":249xra0x said:
He's already doing that. To say he's only a perimeter specialist is silly. He sticks it up and gets 3 yards, it's just he's not popping 8-10 yard gains consistently as Chis is.

If you want a 4.0 YPC, you need those 8-10 yard gains occasionally to balance out the inevitable 0-2 yard losses that come with the territory.

He is averaging half a yard more per carry than Carson. Too bad always compete isn’t in play here.
As people have been trying to demonstrate to you, Penny has gained yards on different types of plays than Carson. Sorry about your fantasy stats and all, but right now Carson is the logical choice for starter. He really is.


:laugh: :thcoffee:
 

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ImTheScientist":bs621nip said:
MontanaHawk05":bs621nip said:
jlwaters1":bs621nip said:
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Penny is becoming a perimeter specialist-and a damn good one at that, but as teams get more film, they're going to be expecting that toss sweep everytime he's in there. It's inperative for him to keep the D honest by getting at least 3 up the middle. Until he can consistently do that, I anticipate teams begin adjusting.

He's already doing that. To say he's only a perimeter specialist is silly. He sticks it up and gets 3 yards, it's just he's not popping 8-10 yard gains consistently as Chis is.

If you want a 4.0 YPC, you need those 8-10 yard gains occasionally to balance out the inevitable 0-2 yard losses that come with the territory.

He is averaging half a yard more per carry than Carson. Too bad always compete isn’t in play here.

Dude.....wise up. Penny has less than half the carries (73) vs (157) for Carson. Carson is also running more inside and redzone which are far tougher yards.

If McKissic comes in and runs 2 carries for 18 yards, that is 9 YPC.....so according to you....START him!! :177692:

Also...Penny just overtook YPC from Carson last game with his 2 long runs. This JUST happened, so don't play the always compete card on this.

Penny stays at #2.....period.
 

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ImTheScientist":2lkvagpu said:
MontanaHawk05":2lkvagpu said:
jlwaters1":2lkvagpu said:
West TX Hawk":2lkvagpu said:
Penny is becoming a perimeter specialist-and a damn good one at that, but as teams get more film, they're going to be expecting that toss sweep everytime he's in there. It's inperative for him to keep the D honest by getting at least 3 up the middle. Until he can consistently do that, I anticipate teams begin adjusting.

He's already doing that. To say he's only a perimeter specialist is silly. He sticks it up and gets 3 yards, it's just he's not popping 8-10 yard gains consistently as Chis is.

If you want a 4.0 YPC, you need those 8-10 yard gains occasionally to balance out the inevitable 0-2 yard losses that come with the territory.

He is averaging half a yard more per carry than Carson. Too bad always compete isn’t in play here.

Insignificant difference to merit a change at this point. Carson is still playing as a top-of-the-league back and has only missed one game.

If he does miss more time, Penny will get his chance.
 

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Always Compete IS at play here. Penny has better breakaway potential but balances that with plays where he stops to look for a hole and gets tackled for loss or no gain. Carson is more reliable to get a gain on any given run, even if it's a yard or two dragging the pile forward.

Carson is the better option because he keeps drives alive by not having negative plays. True, he's not likely to break it to the house, but he's consistently contributing to moving the chains and keeping the offense on the field.

If you needed 2 yards on 4th down and couldn't pass, who among our backs would you give the ball to? There's your acid test, and the answer is clearly Carson.
 

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Carson & Penny are a poor man's ML24/SA37 combo.
 

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I am far less underwhelmed than I was prior to Penny's latest performance.

I still need to see more and that hunger to be excellent and better than the rest of of the RBs on the roster. At present penny is still behind both Carson and Davis though he certainly served notice he needs to be played more.

Now let's see if he can follow up a good performance against the Rams with another against the Packers, and so on and so on.

I am now quite encouraged by the increases in his development and a new hunger that appeared missing early. For Penny the game seems to have slowed down and he is now running with more forcefulness and determination than he showed to begin with.

If I was see as a hater I retract any such inference.

I now think he may prove to be a very positive addition to the roster. Time will tel.
 

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Penny got good size, if he could develop a straight ahead tackle breaking inside run, he could be that three down back that Pete wants. If Penny could, it would be Penny-Carson, and what a droolin' combo for the rest of the league. I am still intrigue to see some plays with both Carson and Penny in the backfield. May be we will see that if we go deep into the playoff, just to surprise defense.
 

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Penny has that burst that has potential for longer runs. Yes, it’s not a requirement for all running backs but it’s definitely noticable compared to Carson and Davis. Carson will run right through you and Penny will slide right by you... They’re both just getting started imo. Awesome Duo! :2thumbs:
 

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I heard Pete's pressor on 710 yesterday and he said Penny was 240 pounds. For the life of me I don't understand why he decided to go from his playing weight in college of 220 to 240. He looked like a complete stud in college. That being said, he did look faster than earlier in the season against the 49ers.

I'm in my 40's and have dieted and lost weight many times. 20 pounds makes a big difference in speed and quickness. At least for me.

The fact that he's 5'11" and 240 pounds at 22 years old is a little worrisome to me anyway.....
 

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King Dog":imotncqk said:
I heard Pete's pressor on 710 yesterday and he said Penny was 240 pounds. For the life of me I don't understand why he decided to go from his playing weight in college of 220 to 240. He looked like a complete stud in college. That being said, he did look faster than earlier in the season against the 49ers.

I'm in my 40's and have dieted and lost weight many times. 20 pounds makes a big difference in speed and quickness. At least for me.

The fact that he's 5'11" and 240 pounds at 22 years old is a little worrisome to me anyway.....

Penny was 240, but not anymore? I thought he lost some weight in the last month or two?
 

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I think the team still views Penny as the future and Carson ideally as the second option in a 60/40 split and I'm guessing we see that next year after a full off season for Penny. Penny is much better than people realize but regardless what a problem to have with two very good running backs who bring something different to the table.
 

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Carson and Penny are both Beasts. Chances are, someone lures Carson away in Free Agency when the time comes and Penny becomes the feature back at that point. Until then, I like the combo.
 

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As much as this team runs the ball, we better have 2 good RB's. I can't see them going a full season w/out one or the other missing a couple games. Just wear and tear alone is enough to keep 2 or 3 good backs. We just happen to have 3 good RB's, plus Mckissic
 
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