Russell Wilson's game vs the 49ers

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Anthony!":1pwib2ed said:
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He played well. But those accuracy issues though. High pass to Kearse (dropped) and an overthrown deep bomb to Lockett (would be TD). Love the win though.

He was 24 of 29

some need to find something wrong, no matter how well he plays he could go 40-40 and they would complain he could have had more yards to another Wr or something stupid.


I think the quoted post (24-29) was a compliment.

Must you always be so defensive?

Wilson did play well. He always does when he doesn't have to put the team on his shoulders.
 

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Our offense was getting back to doing what it does best. Run the ball down their throats. This opens up Russ' ability to torch defenses from play action to read option. It also helped tremendously that he had quick outs/dump offs to alleviate some of that perpetual pressure.

It's funny (or sad, not completely sure) just how close we are to still being that elite, championship team.
 

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mrt144":f1gk681y said:
There were good catches made but you can't discount 24/29. The seam pass to kearse is an example of what we should be running all day long.

Wilson's completion percentage was already sixth in the league, right behind a gentleman named Tom Brady. That number was never the problem.

The problem was the number of bubble screens going for a piddling two yards and the number of bootlegs to covered tight ends, also for two yards.

Starting in October, Bevell figured out this concept called downfield passing. Once he did that, Wilson's YPA jumped to 8.8. Before that, it was 6.9.
 

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erik2690":3603mp8w said:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnpboyle/status/668625142076022784[/tweet]

I'm going with he played pretty darn well. Career high comp. % as well.
Competent defenses stop blitzing if they are getting beaten that badly. Taking nothing away from Wilson's performance, but one of the particular reasons for the rarity of that stat is many teams aren't stupid.
 

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setha880":19jk0hro said:
Yes he played better, he was also put in a better position to succeed by the coaching staff. It also doesn't hurt when your Rawls goes for 200+.
Hmm, kinda like having Marshawn Lynch in there helping to carry the load, and giving Russ another tangent.
It's obvious that the 9rs D was not ready for Rawls.
They narrowed their focus on keeping RW contained, so when they finally decided to split their coverage, they lost containment on BOTH.
 

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jkitsune":zcqlyaum said:
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We ran the ball well and he made good decisions.

He is still missing wide open receivers, but he probably always will. Limitation of his height.

This is such a lazy analysis of Russell Wilson's performance. Quarterbacks miss open receivers all the time, for lots of different reasons, but if it's Russ it must be because he's short. Not because he's muscling the ball up too much, not because he's misjudging the distance... nope. Has to be because he's short.

Even on a day where he was 24/29 with 3 throwaways at good moments.

Even when he had great success passing short/mid over the middle, the only part of the field where height would make any difference.

Its equally "lazy analysis" to dismiss that his height isn't an issue at times. Anyone that thinks otherwise is foolish.

And like I said, he made good decisions today. Take the fanboy goggles off, it will be ok.
 

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KiwiHawk":izj6dsda said:
erik2690":izj6dsda said:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnpboyle/status/668625142076022784[/tweet]

I'm going with he played pretty darn well. Career high comp. % as well.
Competent defenses stop blitzing if they are getting beaten that badly. Taking nothing away from Wilson's performance, but one of the particular reasons for the rarity of that stat is many teams aren't stupid.
Jim Tomsula!!
 

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FlyingGreg":nncvvrqr said:
jkitsune":nncvvrqr said:
FlyingGreg":nncvvrqr said:
We ran the ball well and he made good decisions.

He is still missing wide open receivers, but he probably always will. Limitation of his height.

This is such a lazy analysis of Russell Wilson's performance. Quarterbacks miss open receivers all the time, for lots of different reasons, but if it's Russ it must be because he's short. Not because he's muscling the ball up too much, not because he's misjudging the distance... nope. Has to be because he's short.

Even on a day where he was 24/29 with 3 throwaways at good moments.

Even when he had great success passing short/mid over the middle, the only part of the field where height would make any difference.

Its equally "lazy analysis" to dismiss that his height isn't an issue at times. Anyone that thinks otherwise is foolish.

And like I said, he made good decisions today. Take the fanboy goggles off, it will be ok.

Calling you out for blaming his height for missing wide receivers isn't being a 'fanboy,' but calling someone a fanboy for doing so is also a lazy retort.

Russ has accuracy problems and has thrown lots of bad picks. He hasn't had a good year. I've been pretty vocal about this. But it's possible for Wilson to be struggling without his height being the issue, particularly on deep outside routes where his height would, reasonably, have the least impact. Any other QB in the league can miss the same throw and no one blames height - they blame mechanics, arm strength, footwork, concentration, decision-making, or any other number of very valid reasons for quarterbacks to struggle.
 

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Give Russ a good pass blocking o-line and someone with the smarts to help him see the field better via scheme and play calling and watch the results. Do people really think that extra one inch taller Drew Brees is really makes that much difference in how he sees the field or is it about o-line pass blocking and/or scheme? Seriously, someone, anyone come in here and tell me that one inch is all the difference and it's not scheme, play calling and pass blocking that has allowed/helped Brees be who he is at exactly 1 inch taller than RW.
 

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Hawkpower":11mjnby4 said:
Anthony!":11mjnby4 said:
Uncle Si":11mjnby4 said:
Hawk-A-Loogie":11mjnby4 said:
He played well. But those accuracy issues though. High pass to Kearse (dropped) and an overthrown deep bomb to Lockett (would be TD). Love the win though.

He was 24 of 29

some need to find something wrong, no matter how well he plays he could go 40-40 and they would complain he could have had more yards to another Wr or something stupid.


I think the quoted post (24-29) was a compliment.

Must you always be so defensive?

Wilson did play well. He always does when he doesn't have to put the team on his shoulders.

I like the "But those accuracy issues though." to detract from how great he played, and now the "He always does when he doesn't have to put the team on his shoulders." nice try with the back handed compliment followed by the dig. FYI he has also performed well when has had to put the team on his shoulders, but hey lets not let the facts get in the way of a good lie.
 

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He only gave up one sack IIRC. He ran for first downs. He got back to playing like the 2014 RW not this 2015 version. But like someone else said he didn't have any pressure. As long as he believes that and plays accordingly the Hawks have a chance. Keeping RW out of 3 and long is key. There weren't as many stupid unforced presnap penalties this week which helped a lot. When the running game is going well RW seems to step up his game. We'll see if he can do it two games in a row.
 

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Aros":q694bqe1 said:
Our offense was getting back to doing what it does best. Run the ball down their throats. This opens up Russ' ability to torch defenses from play action to read option. It also helped tremendously that he had quick outs/dump offs to alleviate some of that perpetual pressure.

It's funny (or sad, not completely sure) just how close we are to still being that elite, championship team.


Like I have said the facts prove it, no QB can do it on their own, Today he had help a run game, which then made the defense a step slower allowing great protection. Then add in not all long routes, and something, he almost always had a short bail out throw if all else failed.
 

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There were hot reads today and he was getting more quick passes off, that nullifies the blitz, the tempo, the plays coming in and out, Wilson checking off and audible also, no huddle's as well. It was pace and having the ball come out faster. The O line didn't have to sustain blocks, the running game was not abandoned. A lot of different stuff, maybe more of the offense was going thru Wilson instead of Cable and Bevell today, but there was a distinct difference in how fast things were working.
 

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MontanaHawk05":1shrv6fu said:
mrt144":1shrv6fu said:
There were good catches made but you can't discount 24/29. The seam pass to kearse is an example of what we should be running all day long.

Wilson's completion percentage was already sixth in the league, right behind a gentleman named Tom Brady. That number was never the problem.

The problem was the number of bubble screens going for a piddling two yards and the number of bootlegs to covered tight ends, also for two yards.

Starting in October, Bevell figured out this concept called downfield passing. Once he did that, Wilson's YPA jumped to 8.8. Before that, it was 6.9.


Agreed now he seems to be figuring out the right mix of those types of passes
 

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FlyingGreg":y4o3y22r said:
jkitsune":y4o3y22r said:
FlyingGreg":y4o3y22r said:
We ran the ball well and he made good decisions.

He is still missing wide open receivers, but he probably always will. Limitation of his height.

This is such a lazy analysis of Russell Wilson's performance. Quarterbacks miss open receivers all the time, for lots of different reasons, but if it's Russ it must be because he's short. Not because he's muscling the ball up too much, not because he's misjudging the distance... nope. Has to be because he's short.

Even on a day where he was 24/29 with 3 throwaways at good moments.

Even when he had great success passing short/mid over the middle, the only part of the field where height would make any difference.

Its equally "lazy analysis" to dismiss that his height isn't an issue at times. Anyone that thinks otherwise is foolish.

And like I said, he made good decisions today. Take the fanboy goggles off, it will be ok.

Sorry dude the only lazy analysis is yours as today you have nothing to prove his height is an issue just like you never had, Take your hater glasses off.
 

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Seafan":34nz9rme said:
He only gave up one sack IIRC. He ran for first downs. He got back to playing like the 2014 RW not this 2015 version. But like someone else said he didn't have any pressure. As long as he believes that and plays accordingly the Hawks have a chance. Keeping RW out of 3 and long is key. There weren't as many stupid unforced presnap penalties this week which helped a lot. When the running game is going well RW seems to step up his game. We'll see if he can do it two games in a row.

Yeah, there were pressures, like someone else said.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/johnpboyle/status/668625142076022784[/tweet]
 

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