brimsalabim
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At this point why does it even matter? We drafted him because we wanted him. Either he makes us a better team or he doesn’t. Only time will tell.
getnasty":1p18pesr said:original poster":1p18pesr said:This is honesty baffling.
Do people REALLY believe that John Schneider lied about a team trying to acquire Penny after we selected him?
Madness.
I do
It could make sense when the pick is a surprise. The fact that teams value players differently is only reason any trades happen and the making of a selection might be the only way a team can know how far they needed to go, or that they needed to move. A team might be hoping a guy makes it lower, so not offering enough before the pick is made. It wouldn't surprise if the Hawks known desire/willingness to drop was the only reason that team thought it might work, with the thinking that they might have still had a guy or two they would take if a more attractive trade were offered.therealjohncarlson":3fn4s5zt said:mikeak":3fn4s5zt said:getnasty":3fn4s5zt said:Sports Hernia":3fn4s5zt said:Based on????
Why do you believe he's telling the truth? How many times have you ever heard of a player that just got drafted being traded? How many times have you ever even heard of a trade offer for a player that has just been drafted? The answer to both of those questions is never. It could be true but I don't by it.
It is actually a smart strategy if you are willing to gamble a bit
Say it takes a 5th rounder to move up 2-5 spots
If you think nobody is grabbing your guy you are just ready. If someone does it is possible they accept the trade and you don’t waste the pick moving up in case you never needed to move up
1) You only do it if you have other players you would be happy to pick
2) Tells me it would be NE and not Browns....
Ehhh I dont know, most teams are usually pretty happy about the players they draft at the time, I mean that's why they decided to draft them in the first place out of countless other players. So unless you absolutely blow them away with a trade offer, I would think 99/100 times the trade would be rejected.
seahawkswin1":2ba5mv2h said:getnasty":2ba5mv2h said:Sports Hernia":2ba5mv2h said:Based on????getnasty":2ba5mv2h said:I do
Why do you believe he's telling the truth? How many times have you ever heard of a player that just got drafted being traded? How many times have you ever even heard of a trade offer for a player that has just been drafted? The answer to both of those questions is never. It could be true but I don't by it.
Eli Manning traded for Philly Rivers
pmedic920":dgpeg13o said:I wish Seahawks.net could make every draft pick for the Seahawks.
We have so many experts, there’s no way we could miss.
Super Bowl every year.
This guy sucks, no he’s awesome.
That guy is a reach, no he’s a steal.
Every freakin’ year its the same freakin’ argument.
Makes me laugh, I Love You Guys
:{)
brimsalabim":106mw9po said:At this point why does it even matter? We drafted him because we wanted him. Either he makes us a better team or he doesn’t. Only time will tell.
getnasty":3xgabeqh said:seahawkswin1":3xgabeqh said:getnasty":3xgabeqh said:Sports Hernia":3xgabeqh said:Based on????
Why do you believe he's telling the truth? How many times have you ever heard of a player that just got drafted being traded? How many times have you ever even heard of a trade offer for a player that has just been drafted? The answer to both of those questions is never. It could be true but I don't by it.
Eli Manning traded for Philly Rivers
Players that clearly state there no going to play for the team that drafted them is a different story.
endzorn":19e5xl08 said:Every single year when Schneider trades back he’ll say two things...
1. They were going to take the same player at the original spot.
2. A GM called and said they were about to take that player.
Every year.
It’s like a defense mechanism when they reach. He and Pete fall in love with one guy every year and they don’t give a damn about value, they just want to take him.
scutterhawk":39fjxjqx said:endzorn":39fjxjqx said:Every single year when Schneider trades back he’ll say two things...
1. They were going to take the same player at the original spot.
2. A GM called and said they were about to take that player.
Every year.
It’s like a defense mechanism when they reach. He and Pete fall in love with one guy every year and they don’t give a damn about value, they just want to take him.
So they should what....NOT take the player that they want, and watch him go to another team?
After several months of going over their Scouting Reports, teams SHOULD pretty much have their own player value system, and not rely on guys like Mike Mayock's (sp.) hyped grading system like a LOT OF FANS DO.
So, you must have had your doubts when they went after Marshawn Lynch too, eh?Sgt. Largent":33i1ai4m said:endzorn":33i1ai4m said:Every single year when Schneider trades back he’ll say two things...
1. They were going to take the same player at the original spot.
2. A GM called and said they were about to take that player.
Every year.
It’s like a defense mechanism when they reach. He and Pete fall in love with one guy every year and they don’t give a damn about value, they just want to take him.
I kinda felt this way too.
Both John and Pete give us the "we've liked this guy for a long time, we were willing to trade up to get him blah blah blah" song and dance after each pick.
Which is fine, the team is suppose to pimp their pick and make him feel good starting out his career here.
But do I put much stock in these rumors or reports floated after the fact? Nope.