See, now this is a post I can respect. You should be excited about your team, I wouldn't expect any less. Just can't stand the posts acting like new fans with zero respect for the Hawks....acting like our defense and team being good is some sort of new abberation due to weak opponents. I actually thouroughly enjoy watching the falcons and like them because I believe Quinn was the best DC we have had here. Good luck, here's to an injury free hard fought battle.FOGHORN":39imuvme said:
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pcbball12":zugcmqb8 said:
I was just going to say the same thing.
Nice post, Fog!
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Us posters can take this game lightly because we pay them lots of money not to.
Tical brought up how many of ATL's players would start on the Seahawks, and well... I might as well add my 2 pennies.
QB Russell Wilson (Offensive Team Captain)
RB Devonta Freeman -ATL
X Julio Jones -ATL
Y Jimmy Graham
Z Tyler Lockett
Slot Doug Baldwin
T Jake Matthews -ATL
G Mark Glowinski
C Alex Mack -ATL
G Germaine Ifedi
T Ryan Schraeder -ATL
NIckel is the New Base
W9 Cliff Avril
3T Michael Bennett
3T Frank Clark
W9 Cassius Marsh
MB Bobby Wagner
WB K.J. Wright
SS Kam Chancellor (Defensive Team Captain)
LC Richard Sherman
RC Desmond Trufant -ATL
NB Jeremy Lane
FS Earl Thomas
6 of 22 players would start on the Seahawks w/only 1 on the Defense.
Honorable Mentions / Rotational Players
Jarran Reed as the starting NT
Ahtyba Rubin as DT depth
DeShawn Shead as DB depth (Special Teams Captain)
Deion Jones as LB depth -ATL
Dwight Freeney as DPR depth -ATL
Justin Britt as the 6th OL
Jacob Tamme as the 2nd TE -ATL
Tevin Coleman as the 3rd down back -ATL
Patrick DiMarco as the FB -ATL (If the Seahawks carried one.)
QB Russell Wilson (Offensive Team Captain)
RB Devonta Freeman -ATL
X Julio Jones -ATL
Y Jimmy Graham
Z Tyler Lockett
Slot Doug Baldwin
T Jake Matthews -ATL
G Mark Glowinski
C Alex Mack -ATL
G Germaine Ifedi
T Ryan Schraeder -ATL
NIckel is the New Base
W9 Cliff Avril
3T Michael Bennett
3T Frank Clark
W9 Cassius Marsh
MB Bobby Wagner
WB K.J. Wright
SS Kam Chancellor (Defensive Team Captain)
LC Richard Sherman
RC Desmond Trufant -ATL
NB Jeremy Lane
FS Earl Thomas
6 of 22 players would start on the Seahawks w/only 1 on the Defense.
Honorable Mentions / Rotational Players
Jarran Reed as the starting NT
Ahtyba Rubin as DT depth
DeShawn Shead as DB depth (Special Teams Captain)
Deion Jones as LB depth -ATL
Dwight Freeney as DPR depth -ATL
Justin Britt as the 6th OL
Jacob Tamme as the 2nd TE -ATL
Tevin Coleman as the 3rd down back -ATL
Patrick DiMarco as the FB -ATL (If the Seahawks carried one.)
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FOGHORN":1hpbl1m9 said:
Marsh has been quite good in all facets. Perhaps the biggest "motor" on the team. Plays very well on special teams, is relentless as a pass rusher, runs down backs in pursuit, and is an excellent open field tackler. He has the foot speed to noticeably contribute on a defense filled with foot speed. In other words, he doesn't look slow when the screen includes the likes of Bobby Wagner and Earl Thomas. The Seahawks will think long and hard about keeping him around when his rookie deal expires. When considering his value as measured against the salary cap, he is extremely valuable. It is the Marshes of the world that provide the great cap friendly depth needed for championship contention.
I imagine he will inevitably become too expensive for the Seahawks and will ironically end up on a team like the Falcons. Whoever gets him will be pleasantly surprised. He will be a starter and play well at his new home.
@ FOG
Freeney vs Marsh was my biggest debate. I chose Marsh because he is faster, plays with his hair on fire, he has gotten pressure just that a couple of his sacks have been negated by penalties. He can also play SLB in a pinch, while ultimately Freeney is a guy at this juncture of his career is a super sub.
@ Mick -Yup.
Freeney vs Marsh was my biggest debate. I chose Marsh because he is faster, plays with his hair on fire, he has gotten pressure just that a couple of his sacks have been negated by penalties. He can also play SLB in a pinch, while ultimately Freeney is a guy at this juncture of his career is a super sub.
@ Mick -Yup.
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...Maybe......Tical21":358gw8rt said:
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treefidy":b3akx5r1 said:
There have been far too many meaningless stats from ESPN thrown about in this entertaining thread when there is only one that has any true bearing on a most likely outcome of Sunday's game...
This weeks ESPN power rankings. Seahawks #5 and the Falcons #6. This fact by itself should end any debate as to the better team.
Or
Can Dan Quinn snatch the pebble from Pete Carroll's hand?
Alright, done with some fun, for now.
Straight up? I would call this game a toss up and in fact won't be surprised at all if Atlanta beats us but it won't be because they are a superior team, although their offense is clicking on all cylinders and they're rolling, but what concerns me most about the Hawks is we ARE coming off a bye week and the weather is suppose to be crappy ( It is funny how some fans think it won't rain or blow on us) and it's like we're starting the season over again. and we all know how well we play in opening games. It starts with a few wet farts and the next thing you know, we shat the bed.
I won't at all be concerned though if we do lose because as we know Pete has that weird philosophy about not winning games in the 1st, 2nd or 3rd quarters and the players have not only bought into that, they live it and as the season goes we're playing game 5 Sunday, or the start of the 2nd quarter.
We all saw what this team did in the second half of the season last year and if not for a wet fartin', bed shattin' of a first half against Carolina, who knows? What we can say now is that we have a team that has played together for the better part of 5 and 6 years who are in their primes and know how to win when it matters most. Something the Falcons might say to themselves but couldn't back it up with experience.
That might just be the NFCCG in Atlanta in January. With all things being equal and both teams are healthy, seriously, who in their right mind would bet against us?
I cannot wait for tomorrow. Win, lose, or draw I am ready to see where the Falcons are at. I'm also ready to see Cassius Marsh in action against Schrader. Havent seen much of this guy other than clips.
I already know what Earl T can do. He went to West Orange Stark high school and I got to see him alot. Wish he didnt have to leave UT early. But worked out for the Seahawks. Love me some Earl Thomas. Bennett too. I root for all Texas players. Damn, almost forgot about Christine Michael who went to school with my sister.
Heres to an injury free game fellas. Good luck and I will check in tomorrow.
I already know what Earl T can do. He went to West Orange Stark high school and I got to see him alot. Wish he didnt have to leave UT early. But worked out for the Seahawks. Love me some Earl Thomas. Bennett too. I root for all Texas players. Damn, almost forgot about Christine Michael who went to school with my sister.
Heres to an injury free game fellas. Good luck and I will check in tomorrow.
Tical21":268v5f8m said:
He's got to be better than Sowell though, right ?
Sowell has actually been better than advertised in run blocking, but boy he's sure bad at pass pro. Not fast enough to mirror speed rushers and gets beat inside too easily because he leans and anticipates the speed rush outside.
I'd totally agree on the Mack/Britt debate. I mean, right NOW I'd take Mack on past performance. But Britt is actually larger and more athletic and he's been playing really well. Couple that with the fact that he's only played Center for 4 games and he hasn't hit his ceiling...then top it off with the salary differential and age difference and it's Britt hands down.
Glowinski has been playing decent, but I don't know enough about Atlanta's LG to say whether Glow is better. I'd take Ifedi over their RG even though he's pretty good. I also don't know enough about their RT to take him over a solidly average Gilliam.
Outside of Trufant, I'm not sure I'd take any of their starters on our defense. Half their starters might not beat out our 2nd string to be honest.
Fade":21jvy0vj said:
The other thing about Marsh vs. Freeney would be age.
It's also why I would go with Britt over Mack. Is Mack better ? Yup, right now he is. Britt hasn't reached his celing, and is more athletic. The other factor is salary. Is Mack 5 times better than Britt ? Probably not, but that's the salary differential. Then you go with age, and there you are. And this is from someone that wanted us to trade for Mack.
The one thing Atlanta really has going for them is that we seem to be sluggish coming out of the bye. That might be offset by Wilson and Lockett both healing up over the bye week.
If you haven't watched a lot of Seahawk football, you'd know our OL annually stinks, we play better in the 2nd half of the season, etc. Well, it's because our OL is almost always been remade in the offseason and starts to gel in the 2nd half. Right now, we have the best OL we've had to start a season, and they'll only get better. Yea, we're a bit average in the run game (in today's NFL it's really hard to say 93 ypg is bad) but you can bet Cable has been working with them all bye week on it. That and we have Ifedi back.
The other intangible that I could be wrong on (going off of history) is that this game is going to be a wet sloppy game. I don't think Atlanta has the physicality to slug it out in a phone booth with us and win ugly. Yea our offense has been lacking so far, but it's shown progression. On top of that, no one can discount the physicality of the Seattle team. We're annually one of the most physical and athletic teams in the league.
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Hawks46":i4ov2gwr said:
Matthews played hurt his whole rookie year...only gave up 1 sack last year and had a positive grade in the run game. He's looking like a franchise Left tackle. Our whole OL has been great this year outside of our RG (Chris Chester).
Falcons defense is so young. We start
Grady Jarrett DT (2nd year) Beast
Vic Beasley DE/LB (2nd year) 6th in the NFL in sacks
Deion Jones MLB (rookie) Defensive rookie of the month. 2nd round pick
De'Vondre Campbell WLB (rookie) 4th rounder. MVP of the defense in training camp. Starting today.. been out since week 1
Desmond Trufant CB (4th year) Pro bowler
Robert Alford CB (4th year) Top 20 corner
Brian Poole CB (rookie) Has been the top rookie corner in the league according to PFF. UDFA
Keanu Neal SS (rookie) Highest rated guy on the defense so far this year. 1st round pick
Ricardo Allen FS (2nd year) Meh on him..had a pick last week but might need an upgrade next year
Our defense is certainly not on Seattle's level but I think it can be top 10 in a year or 2. Probably see us drafting a DE in the 1st this year.
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Clark and Kam both out. Ouch.
LeftHandSmoke":3aer797c said:
As a Falcon fan I am actually bummed about this. Wanted Seahawks at full strength.
But I can also relate. The Falcons had their top 4 Linebackers out last week and played 4 games so far without Keanu Neal.
Injuries have plagued the NFL this year for sure. Hope everyone else stays healthy.
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So far....Mis-Match.
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treefidy":xls4w3aa said:
Bye Felicia
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