Shaquem could start Week 1...

[Jerhawk]

Now is his opportunity to shine. Go Griffin bros!

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Incredible opportunity, and a leaning opportunity. Those brothers on the field at the same time? Damn, that's pretty exciting.

 

[FinNasty]

One thing I love about Griffin is he takes really good angles.

He did that all through college and for the most part, seems to be doing it here.

Its easy to take good angles when you run a 4.3 lol...

 

[Sgt. Largent]

One thing I love about Griffin is he takes really good angles.

He did that all through college and for the most part, seems to be doing it here.

Its easy to take good angles when you run a 4.3 lol...

Not necessarily, lots of super fast defenders overrun plays and take bad angles. Hell, Earl did it so much his rookie year that Pete almost benched his ass.

Even if you're fast, still have to play smart, use technique and know your gap assignments.

 

[adeltaY]

I think his main weakness was zone coverage and that will take some time and experience to improve. He's going to get that now either way.

 

[EverydayImRusselin]

They put him out in coverage and space often.

His greatest value is getting to the QB and we don't even try it.

Disappointing. He was getting to the QB pretty effectively even against top-tier college players, and he has the speed and bend to do it against NFL talent. I know he can never be a guy that puts his hand in the dirt like Bruce Irvin, but it is somewhat weird they don't use him at one of the things that is literally his strength.

Not like we don't desperately need help rushing the QB or anything.

I like how he is played so far. He looks solid. But he could do a few things that are exceptional if they bothered to open the door a bit on letting him play to his strengths, ie staying near the line.

He blitzed quite a few times against the Colts, and if he starts believe me Norton and Pete will put that into the defensive scheme package...........especially against a QB like Keenam that will throw picks if he's under pressure.

You don't have a WIL with 4.38 speed and not take advantage of that.

If Griffin has problems, it'll be staying assignment sound out in coverage and staying in his run gaps. That's the kind of stuff that rookies make mistakes at.

On that note, this is encouraging:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/SamuelRGold/status/1034445420330708992[/tweet]

Dude Griffin's football instincts are off the charts, and he's such a hard worker. I'm really excited to see what kind of football player he'll be, and frankly already is.

KJ's a great player, but IMO he's hit his ceiling. Griffin's ceiling is even higher with his size, speed, work ethic, attitude and football instincts.

Saying he has a higher ceiling than KJ is basically saying he has a HOF ceiling. KJ is a borderline All Pro OLB.

 

[SoulfishHawk]

KJ is a very very good player. Shaquem isn't going to replace him, but still a huge shot for the kid to learn on the field.

 

[FinNasty]

One thing I love about Griffin is he takes really good angles.

He did that all through college and for the most part, seems to be doing it here.

Its easy to take good angles when you run a 4.3 lol...

Not necessarily, lots of super fast defenders overrun plays and take bad angles. Hell, Earl did it so much his rookie year that Pete almost benched his ass.

Even if you're fast, still have to play smart, use technique and know your gap assignments.

Lol ya was just joking around. Speed makes it easier... but you still need good feel and instincts.

 

[Sgt. Largent]

Saying he has a higher ceiling than KJ is basically saying he has a HOF ceiling. KJ is a borderline All Pro OLB.

KJ's been to one Pro Bowl, and probably isn't going back.

So yes, I stand by that statement, IMO Griffin's tangibles (speed, build, football instincts, work habits, etc) are higher than KJ's were his rookie year......and therefore ceiling is higher.

And no, just cause I said ceiling is higher than a player who's been to only one Pro Bowl, doesn't mean the next level is HOF. That's a stretch don't you think?

 

[SoulfishHawk]

Can't they BOTH just be really damn good :biggthumpup:

 

[FinNasty]

Just put Shaquem at the Sam when KJ gets back. It would allow him to play more on the edge anyway...

 

[adeltaY]

Saying he has a higher ceiling than KJ is basically saying he has a HOF ceiling. KJ is a borderline All Pro OLB.

KJ's been to one Pro Bowl, and probably isn't going back.

So yes, I stand by that statement, IMO Griffin's tangibles (speed, build, football instincts, work habits, etc) are higher than KJ's were his rookie year......and therefore ceiling is higher.

And no, just cause I said ceiling is higher than a player who's been to only one Pro Bowl, doesn't mean the next level is HOF. That's a stretch don't you think?

Yes, but we all know the Pro Bowl ignores a lot of good players. KJ is especially screwed because he's a 4-3 OLB and has to compete with the 3-4 guys like Von Miller for pro bowl votes even though they play completely different positions. KJ has been a Pro Bowl caliber player for years.

 

[SeaChat]

I've have been a Shaquem Griffin fan since doing my research on his brother Shaquill, when the Seahawks drafted him, and I ran across a piece where they talked about him having a twin brother, who played football as well, and who did so with the absence of one hand.

I started pushing attention his way here in the forum before most knew who he was or that Shaquille even had a brother. I hoped that the NFL would give him a chance to compete, and I hoped even more that the Seahawks would be the team that would open a door of opportunity for him.

I started reading everything I could find on Shaquem, I knew he was something special, and not just as a football player, he is truly all that and no one is going to give him anything, he's earned everything he has accomplished and has refused to let the absence of a hand be a handicap.

I think the day he was picked in the draft, was one of the happiest moments in my life. I was elated for him and for all of the people in the world that he has touched and who were cheering him on for that day when his dream of becoming a player in the NFL came true.

In his own words, its only a handicap if you allow it to be or say it is. He plays as well, if not better than any other player in the NFL, competing for his position on the field. He's not perfect and he'll make his fair share of mistakes and blown coverages, but you can also bet your ass that no one will work harder to correct his mistakes and improve his game.

That doesn't even touch the greatest asset that this kid brings to the Seattle Seahawks, and that is his incredible spirit, that is contagious and infectious to everyone around him.

Watch him on the field during game time, here is a player that defines teammate, he is always encouraging all the players around him, he's always the first with a hand out to help them up, and always there to pat them on the back and offer some encouraging words.

It's players like Shaquem Griffin, and the Seahawks willingness to provide him the opportunities that they have, that makes being a Seahawk 12th Man something really special. I love the Seahawks, not so much for what they bring to the field, but more so for what they bring to the world.

There are millions of people all around the world who paid attention to the Draft Pick when Shaquem was chosen by Seattle, and if I'm not mistaken that single action transformed them into the team with the largest fan base in the world, Its well deserved.

I really hope that Shaquem succeeds in his quest to become a key piayer for the Seattle Seahawks, and to carry a torch of hope for millions of others around the world by his example.

Go Seahawks, and Go Shaquem Griffin, "WE GOT YOUR BACK" !

 

[Pandion Haliaetus]

I still think that Shaquem will be better as a situational player and not as a starter.

Because of size? The hand? Why exactly?

Size and knowledge. Right now he's a bit of a bull in a CHna shop. Needs to refine his game a bit before he's starter material and then it's hard to know if he'll hold up to the pounding at his size.

I agree. I know hes a feel good story and everyone wants to see him succeed but, IMHO, he needs some more experience. I dont believe hes ready to be thrown to the wolves and still may be a bit of a liability. The kid is 100% all the time, which is good, but you also learn when and where with time.

Nah, while I don’t think he’ll placate a healthy Wright. The WLB in this system isn’t a gap-filling power player but more of a flow -to-the-ball-carrier striker.

His size and athletic profile compares to league stalwarts Lavonte David and Shaq Thompson... both are 6-0 to 6-1 and came into the league sub 230. Both those guys were 4.6 runners. So if Griffin looks to be out of control it’s because his speed and quick twitch athleticism is a little abnormal for the position. Can’t really name LBers in this league with 4-3 speed that aren’t more pass-rush specialists.

And the whole slowing the game down that’s pretty much true for most rookies. Although Griffin doesn’t seem like he’s going to be the deer in the headlights and wide eyed and being out of sorts in that way that leads to mistakes.

IMO, he’s going to be one of the fiercest competitors on the field, a warrior, and if he needs reigned in, who better than having Wagner and Norton to settle him down. Griffin also doesn’t seem like a guy who is going to free lance on his own terms and not take to his coaching, so I don’t see Bull in a China Shop as a great example of his game.

 

[chris98251]

Speed on defense is recovery and make up speed, fast or slow you need to judge angles for you speed and who you are attacking, Griffin will just get there a step faster with his speed. On the line it's quickness and burst which he has in spades also.