Witherspoon

[Sgt. Largent]

My argument is that Carter has been excellent, so yes, I'm using stats applicable to his position to defend his play at that position. Similarly, if I were examining whether Jarran Reed has been a good FA signing, I wouldn't rip on him for his lack of INTs, but I would look at advanced run-stopping numbers.

I'm not ripping Carter for his lack of INT's, I'm ripping him for his lack of sacks and solo tackles.

He's been great for a rookie btw, probably will be a great pick in the end. Especially on that line with those teammates. Me thinks he'd probably have even less stats on our line not playing next to 2-3 All Pro's.

As I said above, I'm not an either/or fan like you and others. Both picks can be, and so far have looked great.

 

[CallMeADawg]

Why can't we? Some people are using sacks as the primary value factor while ignoring pressures and other more essential pass rush stats. And following that logic, the Jamal Adams trade was a fantastic deal for the Seahawks. He had more sacks than Chris Jones, Jeffery Simmons, and almost as many as Aaron Donald in 2020.

Because the thread is about Witherspoon.....

 

[Lagartixa]

Are DTs supposed to rack up tackles? There are literally only two DTs in the top 100 in tackles right now: Harrison Phillips is tied for 58th while Derrick Brown is tied for 80th. Yet, somehow Carter having low tackle numbers is a "checkmate" argument?

The Carter fans around here wanted the Seahawks to use the #5 overall pick on a player who's participating in around 25% half (see edit note below) of his team's defensive snaps. The Seahawks instead used it on a guy who can play the whole game and contribute much more to the defense.

EDIT NOTE: I have no excuse for not checking the numbers before posting this comment. I apologize. I was wrong when I said 25% and I'm really embarrassed I didn't go check it before posting. However, the point still stands with the corrected numbers. Witherspoon can play about double the fraction of his team's defensive snaps that Carter can play. This is actually an interesting point about which I've been thinking more lately - the valuation of a player in the draft ought to take into account what fraction of his team's snaps a given player should be expected to play.

 

[pmedic920]

I just realized he has his own emoji

 

[SheaD]

I just realized he has his own emoji

He's got his own song!!

 

[Lagartixa]

I just realized he has his own emoji

He's a superhero's battle cry too.
That's why I've posted at least three images of The Tick in the last 24 hours.

EDITED to add video:

 

[JPatera76]

And He likes playing Nickel more

 

[JPatera76]

Sims giving Seattle and the Lions some huge props. Saying they're dangerous and can be very dangerous in the playoffs. Out of all the NFC to upset everyone (Eagles, 49ers, Dall-ass) its Seattle and then the Lions.

 

[onanygivensunday]

The Carter fans around here wanted the Seahawks to use the #5 overall pick on a player who's participating in around 25% of his team's defensive snaps. The Seahawks instead used it on a guy who can play the whole game and contribute much more to the defense.

FWIW, Pro-football-reference.com has Carter's defensive snaps at 48%... not 25%.

Link... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CartJa05.htm

 

[GemCity]

He's a superhero's battle cry too.
That's why I've posted at least three images of The Tick in the last 24 hours.

EDITED to add video:

He’s romance too

 

[GemCity]

Carter’s good. is good.

I like both. And, I feel ok.

I ride with .

Sincerely,
The Rationalist

 

[GemCity]

And He likes playing Nickel more

Almost puked when I saw…..

A 12 with a 3 Jersey on.

 

[Rat]

As I said above, I'm not an either/or fan like you and others. Both picks can be, and so far have looked great.

You're just trolling now. I've said repeatedly both have been great. I haven't said a single negative thing about Witherspoon on here.

 

[Weadoption]

it was like watching a dude with super hero powers run around and otherwise fk everyone up on offense. Did he just get healthy or something?
nice damn game, that kid is going to be a problem.

 

[keasley45]

FWIW, Pro-football-reference.com has Carter's defensive snaps at 48%... not 25%.

Link... https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CartJa05.htm

I think the 25% is accurate in terms of overall time on the field. So it's true,
but considering no defensive player is ever on the field more 50% overall +/_ , it's a little misleading.

50 % of defensive snaps = 25% overall.

 

[onanygivensunday]

I think the 25% is accurate in terms of overall time on the field. So it's true,
but considering no defensive player is ever on the field more 50% overall +/_ , it's a little misleading.

50 % of defensive snaps = 25% overall.

FWIW, go back and re-read post #203... and I quote... "The Carter fans around here wanted the Seahawks to use the #5 overall pick on a player who's participating in around 25% of his team's defensive snaps." (emphasis added)

You rationalization of the 25% falls flat on its face. That isn't what he said.

 

[JPatera76]

Enough with the Carter back and forth stuff. Back on Topic, WITHERSPOON

 

[morgulon1]

I like Witherspoon. He has skills y'all

 

[keasley45]

FWIW, go back and re-read post #203... and I quote... "The Carter fans around here wanted the Seahawks to use the #5 overall pick on a player who's participating in around 25% of his team's defensive snaps." (emphasis added)

You rationalization of the 25% falls flat on its face. That isn't what he said.

Easy bud. I wasn't trying to defend anything. Was just guessing and what he meant. No need to get all huffy.

 

[warden]

If spoon gets hurt a couple of times, this site we say it is the worst pick in history