NorthDallas40oz":owv10vlo said:
Lynch Mob":owv10vlo said:
NorthDallas40oz":owv10vlo said:
Brandon Coleman is not a first rounder. He's not even a 2nd rounder. Just about all updated draft sites have him with a Day 3 grade. I've seen Coleman and, frankly, he's not a very good player. Lacks explosiveness, can't separate, and has mental lapses/drops. He's another Jon Baldwin.
Also, Doug Baldwin isn't going anywhere.
Regardless, nobody is going to draft Brandon Coleman in the first round, NOBODY. Not even the Seahawks. And it will be a miracle if he sneaks into the end of the 2nd round barring some sort of astonishing combine or Pro Day performance. Coleman has a 3-5 round grade, and if you'd watch him play you'll understand why. Sure he's tall, but he's also a very middling wide receiver. I watched the entire Pinstripe Bowl between Rutgers and Notre Dame - the last game that Coleman played - and he was horrible. He made one play the entire game - on a Go route in which the ND cornerback (who was playing injured) lost track of the ball in the air. The earliest that Coleman would become viable is with the Hawks 4th rounder, and even then there would be far superior players available. The last time the Seahawks reached for a WR with size they landed Kris Durham, a complete bust.
A few thoughts.
Firstly, it's been speculated that Seattle has been watching Coleman closely for the last 3 years. We've sent ungodly numbers of scouts to Rutgers games over that time and we've not pulled the trigger on any of them.
I would totally agree, that this season was not a good one for Coleman. It's been known he played through injury and it's well documented that Gary Nova could well have been the worst QB in CFB. If not the worst, then definitely in the discussion for bottom 5.
Seattle has never been a team that has overly concerned themselves with college production. They appear to view the draft almost entirely in terms of types of athletes and people. They seem to kind of regard college as a sort of intro to football kind of deal. Last year, it was speculated that we wanted Vance McDonald at TE -- probably prompting SF to move up ahead of us to take him in the 2nd round. When all along, the one 'guy in the draft we couldn't leave without', ended up being his backup with all of 9 catches on the year.
And that backup ended up having almost as many catches in his first year as all 4 of SFs receiver/backs in the last 2 drafts combined.
Seattle doesn't look at the draft like we do. Whether Coleman looks good or not this year won't deter us if we identify him as the one guy we want.
If you go back a year to 2012, you will see better tape on Coleman. You will also see flashes of talent that will appeal to Seattle. Seattle is elite at two things in the draft. One, they see talent where others don't. Two, they are outstanding at figuring who teams will pick and when. This allows them to move around in the draft and consistently get a lot of picks, and still get quality guys.
I'll concede our day 1 picks have been less than stellar. But champions are made in days 2 and especially 3. I'd feel a lot better about Coleman at 32 than I have our last 2 first round picks (Irvin/Carpenter).