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Glasgow Seahawk said:
If Duane Brown locks down LT long term and George Fant fully recover from his ACL. Is there a chance they try him at TE?[/q]

Fant's up to 322 pounds now, so I don't think so.
 

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King Dog":wgt055oa said:
Glasgow Seahawk":wgt055oa said:
If Duane Brown locks down LT long term and George Fant fully recover from his ACL. Is there a chance they try him at TE?[/q]

Fant's up to 322 pounds now, so I don't think so.

I would love to see that
 

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Of the guys left in FA, Wonder if they'd take a look at adding another one of these guys to go with Dickson, Vannett, Swoopes:

Levine Toilolo
Troy Niklas
Brent Celek
Gary Barnidge

Or maybe to a lesser extent Eric Ebron or Julius Thomas.
 

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Having a TE that can catch and actually block will be interesting. Having an OC that knows how to actually incorporate a TE into the regular O will be welcome.
 

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In my mind, Jimmy Graham proved his assertion that he views himself as a physical jumbo receiver. Early reports out of Green Bay point to the understanding that Graham will be used as such with the Packers. Jimmy Graham never quite fit Pete's offense in large part because he didn't develop into the blocker and well rounded tight end envisioned. Jimmy was an obvious tell out in that offense. That tell disappears with Jimmy's departure as long as they insist on well rounded and versatile tight ends over specialists (be they a big receiver or 6th lineman).

If Pete has a vulnerable weakness, I would think it a tendency to collect specialists at the expense of a sufficient number of versatile and well rounded players that instill a degree of uncertainty in the minds of opponents as to the actual play intentions. It is one thing to keep offenses simple but self defeating to telegraph intentions with too many rotating specialists.

If Pete's wants to feature an explosive receiver in his offense, it seems to me that the wide receiver group is far more appropriate and manageable spot.

I'm looking forward to a reset at the tight end position and the return of versatility. Less tell more surprise is both fun and productive.
 

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Jville":3ppym07z said:
Jimmy Graham never quite fit Pete's offense in large part because he didn't develop into the blocker and well rounded tight end envisioned. Jimmy was an obvious tell out in that offense. That tell disappears with Jimmy's departure as long as they insist on well rounded and versatile tight ends over specialists (be they a big receiver or 6th lineman).

That's on Pete then for not knowing or understanding the player he signed. Jimmy Graham never blocked a day in his life and Pete brought him and expected him to do that? Pete evaluates some players and knocks it out of the park with development, but other times, like with Jimmy, he whiffs so bad its mind boggling.
 

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pittpnthrs":1frqsaxf said:
Jville":1frqsaxf said:
Jimmy Graham never quite fit Pete's offense in large part because he didn't develop into the blocker and well rounded tight end envisioned. Jimmy was an obvious tell out in that offense. That tell disappears with Jimmy's departure as long as they insist on well rounded and versatile tight ends over specialists (be they a big receiver or 6th lineman).

That's on Pete then for not knowing or understanding the player he signed. Jimmy Graham never blocked a day in his life and Pete brought him and expected him to do that? Pete evaluates some players and knocks it out of the park with development, but other times, like with Jimmy, he whiffs so bad its mind boggling.

No need to point a finger of blame at any one person. Player development is a process. Both the player and the position coach committed to upgrading blocking skills. They were, no doubt, among those that were most disappointed by the results. They had no way of knowing until they tried. In Graham's case, those blocking skills simply didn't develop as envisioned.
 

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Jville":ufw267sn said:
pittpnthrs":ufw267sn said:
Jville":ufw267sn said:
Jimmy Graham never quite fit Pete's offense in large part because he didn't develop into the blocker and well rounded tight end envisioned. Jimmy was an obvious tell out in that offense. That tell disappears with Jimmy's departure as long as they insist on well rounded and versatile tight ends over specialists (be they a big receiver or 6th lineman).

That's on Pete then for not knowing or understanding the player he signed. Jimmy Graham never blocked a day in his life and Pete brought him and expected him to do that? Pete evaluates some players and knocks it out of the park with development, but other times, like with Jimmy, he whiffs so bad its mind boggling.

No need to point a finger of blame at any one person. Player development is a process. Both the player and the position coach committed to upgrading blocking skills. They were, no doubt, among those that were most disappointed by the results. They had no way of knowing until they tried. In Graham's case, those blocking skills simply didn't develop as envisioned.

My point was, I cant believe they even tried. Its not like there wasn't a huge sample size with all the years he played in New Orleans. If they tried to make him a blocker due to how bad the Oline regressed, well that's on Pete too for keeping Cable around for so long. Jimmy Graham is not to blame for his time here in Seattle other than the lack of enthusiasm towards the end.
 

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pittpnthrs":1w0m1ei6 said:
Jville":1w0m1ei6 said:
pittpnthrs":1w0m1ei6 said:
Jville":1w0m1ei6 said:
Jimmy Graham never quite fit Pete's offense in large part because he didn't develop into the blocker and well rounded tight end envisioned. Jimmy was an obvious tell out in that offense. That tell disappears with Jimmy's departure as long as they insist on well rounded and versatile tight ends over specialists (be they a big receiver or 6th lineman).

That's on Pete then for not knowing or understanding the player he signed. Jimmy Graham never blocked a day in his life and Pete brought him and expected him to do that? Pete evaluates some players and knocks it out of the park with development, but other times, like with Jimmy, he whiffs so bad its mind boggling.

No need to point a finger of blame at any one person. Player development is a process. Both the player and the position coach committed to upgrading blocking skills. They were, no doubt, among those that were most disappointed by the results. They had no way of knowing until they tried. In Graham's case, those blocking skills simply didn't develop as envisioned.

My point was, I cant believe they even tried. Its not like there wasn't a huge sample size with all the years he played in New Orleans. If they tried to make him a blocker due to how bad the Oline regressed, well that's on Pete too for keeping Cable around for so long. Jimmy Graham is not to blame for his time here in Seattle other than the lack of enthusiasm towards the end.

I find dismissal thru individual blame to be useless in achieving understanding. Organizations live and die together ...... members don't function in isolation from one another.

EDIT: Added some Jimmy Graham contract numbers for Aaron Rogers centered offense ....... [tweet]https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/975541957727522817[/tweet]
 
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