New PAT rules Confirmed

kidhawk · May 19, 2015

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PAT will kick from the 15....2 pt try will be from the 2 and the defense can score

kidhawk · May 19, 2015

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Proposal No. 2: The Competition Committee Proposal

This proposal would allow both teams the chance to score one or two points. An extra point would be snapped from the 15 and a two-point conversion from the 2, just as in the first proposal.

However, the main difference here is a failed kick or two-point attempt would not result in a dead ball. On turnovers or blocked kicks, the defensive team would have the chance to return the ball back for a touchdown.

If the defensive team successfully scores on a failed two-point try, that would result in two points for the defensive team. Currently, all failed two-point conversions result in dead balls with no chance for the defense to convert them into points.

fenderbender123 · May 19, 2015

So how does the defending team score 1 point?

Would it really be a touchdown if they run it back? Or would it just be a 2-point conversion?

jammerhawk · May 19, 2015

If it is run back on a two point conversion attempt it is a 2 point TD, no conversion.

I assume the team that scored the TD would still kick off???

253hawk · May 19, 2015

If it's anything like flag football rules, the conversion and/or turnover for return will be 2 points and the kickoff will still be to the team that the TD was scored on.

fenderbender123 · May 19, 2015

Why would they call it a TD one way and not the other? Oh well...it's not really important.

Seahawks1983 · May 19, 2015

fenderbender123":ik9qi88a said:
Why would they call it a TD one way and not the other? Oh well...it's not really important.

They aren't. A 2 point conversion isn't a touchdown.

pmedic920 · May 19, 2015

So does that create a situation where a team may fumble on purpose, let the other team run it back for 2 pts. just so the could get the ball back?
I'm confused.

Seahawks1983 · May 19, 2015

pmedic920":i3oucyol said:
So does that create a situation where a team may fumble on purpose, let the other team run it back for 2 pts. just so the could get the ball back?

No.

kidhawk · May 19, 2015

pmedic920":1kzprbq5 said:
So does that create a situation where a team may fumble on purpose, let the other team run it back for 2 pts. just so the could get the ball back?
I'm confused.

No matter what happens on the kick/try, the team that scored the original td still has to kickoff.

fenderbender123 · May 19, 2015

Seahawks1983":3b82ss43 said:
fenderbender123":3b82ss43 said:

Why would they call it a TD one way and not the other? Oh well...it's not really important.

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They aren't. A 2 point conversion isn't a touchdown.

That's what I was thinking. Not sure why the article calls it otherwise.

And yeah, if you guys are wondering how the whole defense 2-point conversion works...it's going to be the same rules as college. The attempting team does not get the ball back if the defensive team scores on a conversion attempt.

Hawks46 · May 19, 2015

Also, no time is ran off the clock, just like a PAT kick attempt.

I like the new rule. The PAT was basically the most boring play in football, so now they've added some suspense to it at least.

mikeak · May 19, 2015

I think moving the kick to the 1 yard line would have made it more likely to increase the number of 2-pt conversions as tricking the opponent would be easier

Besides that I like it

Beer Hawk · May 19, 2015

Since it's essentially a 33-yard FG I guess this just gives kickers a few practice kicks during the game. Wonder if this does anything to FG percentages. Or matters in any way, shape or form. Ever.

kidhawk · May 19, 2015

Beer Hawk":evj5tj4e said:
Since it's essentially a 33-yard FG I guess this just gives kickers a few practice kicks during the game. Wonder if this does anything to FG percentages. Or matters in any way, shape or form. Ever.

One thing it will do, is decrease the likelihood of scoring on a botched snap. Being further back at the snap would mean they'd need to run it over 20 yards to score now. That is much less likely than it already was before. I'm sure there will be a slightly higher amount of misses in sloppy condition, but nothing significant. It just adds a new element of interest in that the ball is no longer a dead ball until a tackle or score.

Marlin Man · May 19, 2015

Should we pass for it or give it to the Beast???? Maybe the dumb ass will get it figured out before the season starts eh???

M.M.

kidhawk · May 19, 2015

Here's a graphic from ESPN Stats on which is statistically better over the long run.

Ad Hawk · May 19, 2015

kidhawk":27watdav said:
Here's a graphic from ESPN Stats on which is statistically better over the long run.

NOOOO!!! They can't do that... I think in multiples of 7 for football with 8 or 6 being anomalies.

But then safeties and frequent field-goals screw that up anyways.

AgentDib · May 19, 2015

This wasn't the best option but it is still a small improvement. Kickers will miss PATs now, we should see slightly more two point conversions, and there should be significantly fewer trick plays.

Scottemojo · May 19, 2015

For some teams, nothing changes. But teams like Carolina, with multiple big targets and Cam, should go for 2 a lot more often.

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