Deion Sanders on LOB

Gio · Dec 28, 2017

Do you agree with Prime ??

Probably Kam is over due to that neck injury. But whole year we struggling with injuries, yeah our guys are frustrated , but we have so much talent defensively and i hope they all come back next season healthy and dominate the league. I would be cool using McDougald or Shead in Kam's spot , if he retires.

https://www.facebook.com/NFL/videos/10155923571821263/

KiwiHawk · Dec 28, 2017

I definitely disagree. While he may or may not be right about Kam, Sherm, and Thomas not playing together next year, he's dead wrong about the surrounding talent. Maxwell is back and playing at a high level. Griffin is doing extremely well as a rookie, McDougald has been impressive filling in for Kam...

Next man up has been performing, and that's the whole concept of the legion. It's not the Trio of boom. It's the top guys, sure, but it's also the next man up, and the man after him. A legion is not slowed by the loss of one or two guys.

Gio · Dec 28, 2017

KiwiHawk":37hrw36e said:
I definitely disagree. While he may or may not be right about Kam, Sherm, and Thomas not playing together next year, he's dead wrong about the surrounding talent. Maxwell is back and playing at a high level. Griffin is doing extremely well as a rookie, McDougald has been impressive filling in for Kam...

Next man up has been performing, and that's the whole concept of the legion. It's not the Trio of boom. It's the top guys, sure, but it's also the next man up, and the man after him. A legion is not slowed by the loss of one or two guys.

I totally agree with you. + Wagner , Wright , Clark all of them have been beasts !

SoulfishHawk · Dec 28, 2017

I don't listen to anything Deion says, he thinks he is the be all end all. The same guy who was worshiping them after the Eagles win was shredding them after the Rams loss. Meh, he doesn't matter.

Sox-n-Hawks · Dec 28, 2017

We're talking about the same guy who claims he could have beaten Usain Bolt?

TwistedHusky · Dec 28, 2017

The Legion was 5 guys:

1 - Sherman
2 - Earl
3 - Kam
4 - Browner
5 - Maxwell

That was the LOB. The Boom was Kam and Browner.
Richard was the guy putting it all together.

The rest of the versions are just trying to live up to what the LOB was.

We don't have the LOB, and we had only half of it for a few years.

What we had was pretty good but a far cry from what the LOB was.

Pretty ridiculous to remove those guys and think it was the system. Or the coach or something else.

It was a group of really talented guys with tremendous athletic ability, that complemented each other perfectly.

We likely won't see it again, but that makes sense because Sherman, Earl and Kam were all playing HOF quality ball at the same time. You don't get that on the same team often, if ever again.

Pretty ridiculous to think lightning is going to strike twice like that again. Possible, but very unlikely.

Sox-n-Hawks · Dec 28, 2017

TwistedHusky":q8pc6ibq said:
The Legion was 5 guys:

1 - Sherman
2 - Earl
3 - Kam
4 - Browner
5 - Maxwell

That was the LOB. The Boom was Kam and Browner.
Richard was the guy putting it all together.

The rest of the versions are just trying to live up to what the LOB was.

We don't have the LOB, and we had only half of it for a few years.

What we had was pretty good but a far cry from what the LOB was.

Pretty ridiculous to remove those guys and think it was the system. Or the coach or something else.

It was a group of really talented guys with tremendous athletic ability, that complemented each other perfectly.

We likely won't see it again, but that makes sense because Sherman, Earl and Kam were all playing HOF quality ball at the same time. You don't get that on the same team often, if ever again.

Pretty ridiculous to think lightning is going to strike twice like that again. Possible, but very unlikely.

Then again.... the CB/DB coach who developed those backs is the DC now..... just sayin' LOB 2.0 may be on the way.

Seymour · Dec 28, 2017

KiwiHawk":2v7xrq8m said:
I definitely disagree. While he may or may not be right about Kam, Sherm, and Thomas not playing together next year, he's dead wrong about the surrounding talent. Maxwell is back and playing at a high level. Griffin is doing extremely well as a rookie, McDougald has been impressive filling in for Kam...

Next man up has been performing, and that's the whole concept of the legion. It's not the Trio of boom. It's the top guys, sure, but it's also the next man up, and the man after him. A legion is not slowed by the loss of one or two guys.

True.
But once the Boom is gone, they become the legion of something else.

sutz · Dec 28, 2017

Comments on the LoB from a guy who couldn't tackle a scarecrow in a cornfield?

:roll: :rofl: :laugh:

Sox-n-Hawks · Dec 28, 2017

sutz":imgg6uxf said:
Comments on the LoB from a guy who couldn't tackle a scarecrow in a cornfield?

:roll: :rofl: :laugh:

You're forgetting... 2/3 of the earth is covered in water... the rest by deon. haha that guy always made me laugh. Still does.

semiahmoo · Dec 28, 2017

He's pretty much right on.

LoB is done. Been done for a couple seasons, actually.

That said, for a few season before then those guys were something to behold.

Good times.

MontanaHawk05 · Dec 28, 2017

The Seahawks were 2016's #1 defense right up until Earl's injury.

This year, they held Aaron Rodgers to 17 points and the Rams to 10, both in their own houses.

Rumors of the LOB's demise "years ago" are greatly exaggerated. A step down from 2014's peak, and a few more bad games here and there, but they were still a defense that NFL coaches respected. You can be sure that they gameplanned carefully for them.

Truth is, they just got injured, and nobody wants to accept that explanation because there's nothing anyone can do about it.

semiahmoo · Dec 28, 2017

MontanaHawk05":2nk26eri said:
The Seahawks were 2016's #1 defense right up until Earl's injury.

This year, they held Aaron Rodgers to 17 points and the Rams to 10, both in their own houses.

Rumors of the LOB's demise "years ago" are greatly exaggerated. A step down from 2014's peak, and a few more bad games here and there, but they were still a defense that NFL coaches respected. You can be sure that they gameplanned carefully for them.

Truth is, they just got injured, and nobody wants to accept that explanation because there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Respected - yes.

Feared - no.

They were no longer the Legion of Boom.

This is from last season. Good article that makes some valid points:

The End of the Seattle Seahawks' Legion of Boom Is Officially Here

ATLANTA — In 2013 or 2014, what happened to the Seattle Seahawks on Saturday would have been unimaginable. In 2015, it would have still been hard to conceive.

But in 2016, this is the new normal for the Seahawks.

...Seattle's decline in the past four years has been measurable. In 2013, the Seahawks led the league by allowing only 4.8 net yards per pass attempt. They slipped to a tie for third in 2014 with 5.5 net yards per attempt and then tied for fifth with 5.8 net yards per attempt in 2015.

This year, Seattle fell to a pedestrian 11th-place tie in the league at 6.2 net yards per attempt."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2687 ... ially-here

Sgt. Largent · Dec 28, 2017

KiwiHawk":2od2tsnm said:
I definitely disagree. While he may or may not be right about Kam, Sherm, and Thomas not playing together next year, he's dead wrong about the surrounding talent. Maxwell is back and playing at a high level. Griffin is doing extremely well as a rookie, McDougald has been impressive filling in for Kam...

Next man up has been performing, and that's the whole concept of the legion. It's not the Trio of boom. It's the top guys, sure, but it's also the next man up, and the man after him. A legion is not slowed by the loss of one or two guys.

Maxwell had a nice game against Dallas, but I'd be scared to death if he's the long term answer at the other CB spot.

He's lost a step, gets easily turned around and beat by quick receivers.

Resign McDougal, RFA tender Coleman and go get another Griffin type CB in the draft. If you wanna keep Maxwell as a backup I'm fine with that. But I'm not down with any plan where we're moving forward with Maxwell as a starter.

SoulfishHawk · Dec 28, 2017

+1, Maxwell as a starter? No thx.

MontanaHawk05 · Dec 28, 2017

semiahmoo":1ct1eski said:
MontanaHawk05":1ct1eski said:

The Seahawks were 2016's #1 defense right up until Earl's injury.

This year, they held Aaron Rodgers to 17 points and the Rams to 10, both in their own houses.

Rumors of the LOB's demise "years ago" are greatly exaggerated. A step down from 2014's peak, and a few more bad games here and there, but they were still a defense that NFL coaches respected. You can be sure that they gameplanned carefully for them.

Truth is, they just got injured, and nobody wants to accept that explanation because there's nothing anyone can do about it.

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Respected - yes.

Feared - no.

They were no longer the Legion of Boom.

This is from last season. Good article that makes some valid points:

The End of the Seattle Seahawks' Legion of Boom Is Officially Here

ATLANTA — In 2013 or 2014, what happened to the Seattle Seahawks on Saturday would have been unimaginable. In 2015, it would have still been hard to conceive.

But in 2016, this is the new normal for the Seahawks.

...Seattle's decline in the past four years has been measurable. In 2013, the Seahawks led the league by allowing only 4.8 net yards per pass attempt. They slipped to a tie for third in 2014 with 5.5 net yards per attempt and then tied for fifth with 5.8 net yards per attempt in 2015.

This year, Seattle fell to a pedestrian 11th-place tie in the league at 6.2 net yards per attempt."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2687 ... ially-here

Jason Cole finding a cherry-picked stat without perspective (5.5 and 5.8 are still great figures for net yards per pass attempt) in order to justify a clickbait article isn't convincing to any objective observer. And he's blatantly ignoring the injury factor for 2017.

Seattle was top 2 in YPG allowed in both 2014 and 2015. #1 DVOA in 2014, #3 in 2015. Hardly a dropoff.

adeltaY · Dec 28, 2017

Yeah also that ATL game happened without Earl and Sherman was playing on a knee injury sooo

hawknation2017 · Dec 28, 2017

Kam has stayed so close to the team since his injury. He has spent a lot of time mentoring Bradley McDougald. I have a feeling he decides to return, a la Earl Thomas a year ago.

Sgt. Largent · Dec 28, 2017

hawknation2017":2654ro39 said:
Kam has stayed so close to the team since his injury. He has spent a lot of time mentoring Bradley McDougald. I have a feeling he decides to return, a la Earl Thomas a year ago.

Of course Kam's going to return, he's set to make 10M in 2018 and the Hawk's can't cut him cause it's almost all dead cap.

Even if he can't play most or any of the entire season, he'll force the Hawk's to put him on IR so he can get paid.

hawknation2017 · Dec 28, 2017

Sgt. Largent":16k367yg said:
hawknation2017":16k367yg said:

Kam has stayed so close to the team since his injury. He has spent a lot of time mentoring Bradley McDougald. I have a feeling he decides to return, a la Earl Thomas a year ago.

Click to expand...

Of course Kam's going to return, he's set to make 10M in 2018 and the Hawk's can't cut him cause it's almost all dead cap.

Even if he can't play most or any of the entire season, he'll force the Hawk's to put him on IR so he can get paid.

Kam will probably choose to play, IMO. He was at the top of his game before the "stringer," and his legacy is on the line.

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