A little reflection what if?

Percy Harvin had Tyler Lockett's approach to football, and Christine Michael had Chris Caeson's approach to the game? How explosive would the Seahawks offense had been 2014-2016?

If Jeremy Stevens had played to his potential and not pissed off Harrison we could have won that Super Bowl.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas..

What if Kearse hangs on to that third down corner route in the third quarter or the D gets the stop on third and long in the 4th where Brady finds Edelman. That Super Bowl is over earlier and that famous pick never happens.

What if Matt Flynn never signs here...do we still get Wilson?

What if Brett Favre was drafted instead of Dan McGwire?

What if Russell hits a wide open DK on our first drive of the game against GB?

chris98251":2z2zp9me said:

If Jeremy Stevens had played to his potential and not pissed off Harrison we could have won that Super Bowl.

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The Refs were never going to allow a Seahawk victory in that Travesty....

HawkRiderFan":137sykhg said:

What if Kearse hangs on to that third down corner route in the third quarter or the D gets the stop on third and long in the 4th where Brady finds Edelman. That Super Bowl is over earlier and that famous pick never happens.

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I think about the 3rd down drop more than I think about the int at the goal line. That catch seals the game if its made.

I think this is a good topic, because it goes to Pete's decisions on players, and (imho), his sometimes overinflated sense of being able to turn athletes in to Football Players.

There were alarm bells with Percy Harvin, and I hated that signing. I was hopeful, but had zero confidence that that POS would play for this team. He only played when he wanted to. Otherwise, he was "injured." He stole from this team, his team mates, and this fan base. Pete gets an F on that decision.

Christine Michael had some issues, but seemed like he could be an excellent back, but I think that he had some kind of mental, or emotional issues that wouldn't allow him to focus. I've seen people before with health issues, that have involuntary movements, and Michael would get excited and point at the lane he was going to take. ADD? BiPolar? I could be wrong, and it could just be maturity issues. But when he was at the Shrine Game, he would bring his offensive line players Gatorade, and that showed a person who can appreciate the hard work of others.

And then there's Thomas Rawls. He was doing so GOOD! And he could have been a star. But there was something going on that we never heard about. I was encouraged by him, because when he scored, he'd celebrate with his OLine. But, something was up.

Pete couldn't get any of those 3 to recognize the opportunity that they had.

But, he succeeded with Marshawn Lynch, which IMHO, cancels out the failures. The reason we got Marshawn so cheap, is that he was trouble for the Buffalo Bills. He was his own man, and was going to do things his way. Pete is probably the only coach in the NFL that could deal with Marshawn being Marshawn, and still get the most out of him.

I've said ever since we drafted Kam Chancellor, and he started showing up on the field, that if Kam had gone to another team, he likely wouldn't have had the chance to excel like he did here.

Nobody else thought Kam was worth mid-to-late pick because he didn't fit the mold. But Pete and John saw the potential, and took full advantage of it. Imagine if Cleveland would have drafted him, tried to force him to be something he was not. He possibly would have been out of the league in 3 or 4 years.

Nobody's going to be 100% with Professional athletes, but I'd bet Pete has the highest success rate with players that others overlooked, or would have given up on early. And look at the success it has brought us. We've gotten Pro Bowl players late in the draft, saved tons of money, and been able to fill in the talent with that cash.

So who's on the "bubble" as a Seahawk now? Who's having trouble getting the message and following through? I'd list a couple of candidates as LJ Collier, Tedric Thompson, Delano Hill, and Naz Jones. These players I don't see as stubborn, but more that they don't understand what they're being taught, and aren't putting in the time, or having the confidence to put what they are being taught, on the field.

Smart ass comments aside, I think this is a really good topic, that applies to getting the most out of uber-talented players that we've had, as it relates to successes and failures.

Who are those players today? What should Pete do to motivate or guide them? Which past players did you dread ahead of time? and IMHO, most importantly, which players were you right about

austinslater25":3pc0k0e4 said:

HawkRiderFan":3pc0k0e4 said:

What if Kearse hangs on to that third down corner route in the third quarter or the D gets the stop on third and long in the 4th where Brady finds Edelman. That Super Bowl is over earlier and that famous pick never happens.

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I think about the 3rd down drop more than I think about the int at the goal line. That catch seals the game if its made.

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Glad it's not just me.

What if Will Dissly is never hurt the past two seasons?

What if Les didn't die?...This place would still have friends within it's members?

I have a feeling you can add Marquise Blair to your list, Ivotuk. He has big potential, but why didn't he earn more playing time? Something didn't feel right.

Percy Harvin actually had an insane level of work ethic. His trouble was entirely mental health and substance related.

Christine Michael is still the weirdest player I've ever seen play for the Seahawks. I had a chance to meet him in 2014, and obviously a 5 minute chat doesn't tell you a whole lot about someone, but he seemed like a great dude who was locked into his role. The dude played the game with seemingly no care in the world, like he messing around with his friends in the park.

Sign37now":35aoyr53 said:

chris98251":35aoyr53 said:

If Jeremy Stevens had played to his potential and not pissed off Harrison we could have won that Super Bowl.

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The Refs were never going to allow a Seahawk victory in that Travesty....

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This.

HawkGA":2ncjmqz3 said:

Sign37now":2ncjmqz3 said:

chris98251":2ncjmqz3 said:

If Jeremy Stevens had played to his potential and not pissed off Harrison we could have won that Super Bowl.

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The Refs were never going to allow a Seahawk victory in that Travesty....

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This.

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Yep. The 'Bus' had to get a victory in his home town and a completely undeserved Hall of Fame slot.

What if Ken Behring had an I.Q bigger than his waist line.

austinslater25":22dia07x said:

HawkRiderFan":22dia07x said:

What if Kearse hangs on to that third down corner route in the third quarter or the D gets the stop on third and long in the 4th where Brady finds Edelman. That Super Bowl is over earlier and that famous pick never happens.

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I think about the 3rd down drop more than I think about the int at the goal line. That catch seals the game if its made.

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IIRC, the NE player got just enough of a hand in to make the catch exceedingly difficult for Kearse. I felt the same way as everyone else, that it was a game-losing drop by Kearse, but then I saw a video breakdown that showed the NE DB actually broke up the catch. Subtle but effective. If you go watch it again, and are sure I'm wrong, please post a link to the video showing it was a clear unforced drop.

What if there is no interesting topics to discuss in here after the SB for several weeks ? Yawn