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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:33 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:I suppose Liverpool have a puncher's chance at 4th, but I highly doubt it'll happen. Still, stranger things, I suppose. We're scoring goals now, and if the defense can be shored up for the run in, you never know what could happen. Look at how improbably Arsenal's chances were last season.


    I think 5th place is a fairly realistic season ending result. Europa here we come! :/
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 03, 2013 12:38 pm
  • InSuarezWeTrust wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:I suppose Liverpool have a puncher's chance at 4th, but I highly doubt it'll happen. Still, stranger things, I suppose. We're scoring goals now, and if the defense can be shored up for the run in, you never know what could happen. Look at how improbably Arsenal's chances were last season.


    I think 5th place is a fairly realistic season ending result. Europa here we come! :/


    I honestly hate the Europa league. I mean, it's money and it's a chance to compete in Europe and scout some guys, but I still hate it.

    I REALLY like Coutinho. I like him on the wing in a 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, and I like him up front with Suarez and Sturridge in a 4-3-3. Sturridge was another good buy, I reckon. Allen seems to be finding his way a bit more, which is good. I think Shelvey and probably Henderson are gone in the summer. Probably Downing, too. Time to sut our losses and let Rodgers bring in guys that will fit what he wants to do. I've liked the Sturridge and Coutinho buys, and I think guys like Assaidi and Borini will provide good cover in the long run.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 03, 2013 2:24 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    InSuarezWeTrust wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:I suppose Liverpool have a puncher's chance at 4th, but I highly doubt it'll happen. Still, stranger things, I suppose. We're scoring goals now, and if the defense can be shored up for the run in, you never know what could happen. Look at how improbably Arsenal's chances were last season.


    I think 5th place is a fairly realistic season ending result. Europa here we come! :/


    I honestly hate the Europa league. I mean, it's money and it's a chance to compete in Europe and scout some guys, but I still hate it.


    I REALLY like Coutinho. I like him on the wing in a 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, and I like him up front with Suarez and Sturridge in a 4-3-3. Sturridge was another good buy, I reckon. Allen seems to be finding his way a bit more, which is good. I think Shelvey and probably Henderson are gone in the summer. Probably Downing, too. Time to sut our losses and let Rodgers bring in guys that will fit what he wants to do. I've liked the Sturridge and Coutinho buys, and I think guys like Assaidi and Borini will provide good cover in the long run.



    I see Henderson staying, and Shelvey may get a loan deal. I dont see them selling him. Hes very useful and still young (same as Henderson). I do see Downing being sold, although its great to see him adding an impact to wins.

    Coutinho's two assists indicate his class, and how he fits in with Suarez. I find that duo, with Sturridge, exciting enough that coupled with a Europa league stint may bring in another two dynamic, impactful players. I know you dont like Europa, peaches, but it serves a very useful purpose for the club in developing players as well as showing progress. I think many young players enamored with Liverpool can see 5th place and Europa as just one step away from being back to its former dominance... and for that I am excited.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Tue Mar 05, 2013 9:42 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    InSuarezWeTrust wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:I suppose Liverpool have a puncher's chance at 4th, but I highly doubt it'll happen. Still, stranger things, I suppose. We're scoring goals now, and if the defense can be shored up for the run in, you never know what could happen. Look at how improbably Arsenal's chances were last season.


    I think 5th place is a fairly realistic season ending result. Europa here we come! :/


    I honestly hate the Europa league. I mean, it's money and it's a chance to compete in Europe and scout some guys, but I still hate it.

    I REALLY like Coutinho. I like him on the wing in a 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1, and I like him up front with Suarez and Sturridge in a 4-3-3. Sturridge was another good buy, I reckon. Allen seems to be finding his way a bit more, which is good. I think Shelvey and probably Henderson are gone in the summer. Probably Downing, too. Time to sut our losses and let Rodgers bring in guys that will fit what he wants to do. I've liked the Sturridge and Coutinho buys, and I think guys like Assaidi and Borini will provide good cover in the long run.


    It was better as the UEFA cup when it was a straight knockout competition. The Europa League structure doesn't work, too many meaningless games and the money is pennies compared to the ECL. It's not like there are bad teams in it, a lot of good Spanish and Italian teams but it is marketed so crap and no English team really gives a crap about it.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:56 am
  • Spurs will test "no English team gives a crap about it" this week. They are in an interesting dilemma with the first leg against Inter on Thursday, then a crucial away league tie at Liverpool on Sunday. They are in 3rd, need to get points to keep their Champs league position. But also are now deep in the Euro League tourney and play a very strong Inter squad.

    What Spurs do with their Thursday lineup will speak volumes to how they perceive the Euro tournament (Im not disagreeing with Glasgow either). Will they rest important players to be better prepared for the Liverpool game and trying to secure that crucial top 4 spot? Or will they put a strong squad out and try and grab a home lead in the first leg? or risk both....

    anyways, I see their particular position rather daunting, considering, and will be interested to see what choices AVB makes.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:10 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Spurs will test "no English team gives a crap about it" this week. They are in an interesting dilemma with the first leg against Inter on Thursday, then a crucial away league tie at Liverpool on Sunday. They are in 3rd, need to get points to keep their Champs league position. But also are now deep in the Euro League tourney and play a very strong Inter squad.

    What Spurs do with their Thursday lineup will speak volumes to how they perceive the Euro tournament (Im not disagreeing with Glasgow either). Will they rest important players to be better prepared for the Liverpool game and trying to secure that crucial top 4 spot? Or will they put a strong squad out and try and grab a home lead in the first leg? or risk both....

    anyways, I see their particular position rather daunting, considering, and will be interested to see what choices AVB makes.


    Yeah, it's a really perplexing situation, but I think ultimately, you have to rest players against inter. the money they'll get from a CL spot next year would far outweigh the money they might get for progressing to the next round of the Europa league. they'll be looking to solidify their position in 3rd more than anything. i think they'll field a weakened side against Inter, defend and hope to nick a cheeky goal on the break. Maybe hope for a 0-0 or a 1-1 draw, something like that, maybe even a 1-0 win. then they'll field their best XI against Liverpool on Sunday, and depending on their next league opponent, field a strong side in Inter in the return leg.

    That's what I'd do, anyway
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:46 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Spurs will test "no English team gives a crap about it" this week. They are in an interesting dilemma with the first leg against Inter on Thursday, then a crucial away league tie at Liverpool on Sunday. They are in 3rd, need to get points to keep their Champs league position. But also are now deep in the Euro League tourney and play a very strong Inter squad.

    What Spurs do with their Thursday lineup will speak volumes to how they perceive the Euro tournament (Im not disagreeing with Glasgow either). Will they rest important players to be better prepared for the Liverpool game and trying to secure that crucial top 4 spot? Or will they put a strong squad out and try and grab a home lead in the first leg? or risk both....

    anyways, I see their particular position rather daunting, considering, and will be interested to see what choices AVB makes.


    Yeah, it's a really perplexing situation, but I think ultimately, you have to rest players against inter. the money they'll get from a CL spot next year would far outweigh the money they might get for progressing to the next round of the Europa league. they'll be looking to solidify their position in 3rd more than anything. i think they'll field a weakened side against Inter, defend and hope to nick a cheeky goal on the break. Maybe hope for a 0-0 or a 1-1 draw, something like that, maybe even a 1-0 win. then they'll field their best XI against Liverpool on Sunday, and depending on their next league opponent, field a strong side in Inter in the return leg.

    That's what I'd do, anyway


    I agree, Peaches.

    I'm going to assume that they have Champions League qualification as the primary goal for the season and at this stage they are well placed but still far from assured of achieving that objective. Therefore, I really hope that Bale, Vertonghen, Walker and Dembele are rested, lennon will probably need to start if Bale's out, and Loris will no doubt sit in favour of Friedel.

    The objective on Thursday will surely be to keep Inter goalless, or to concede one tops.

    While I find the group stages of the Europa League pretty dull, I like the final 32 onwards. I really hope we can beat Inter, even if it makes our run in more difficult. But, the league has to come first.

    It's also worth bearing in mind that Inter are tied for 4th at the moment (with a pretty good Lazio, and with Fiorentina and Roma close behind) and may well rest players this Thursday too.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:30 pm
  • I suggest all in for Spurs on Thursday. Put the top lads in and let them rip. You must defend the Lane from those nasty Italians! They helped start the Big One for godsakes! They insulted the Queen! They insulted Kate! you must grit the bit and play it out.... maybe play a double header with Inter and Stoke.

    We will see you Sunday!
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:53 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:I suggest all in for Spurs on Thursday. Put the top lads in and let them rip. You must defend the Lane from those nasty Italians! They helped start the Big One for godsakes! They insulted the Queen! They insulted Kate! you must grit the bit and play it out.... maybe play a double header with Inter and Stoke.

    We will see you Sunday!


    Ha ha! Although I'm pretty sure that last time we played Inter they only actually had one actual, real, live Italian in their squad!

    And yeah, I'd definitely rather have our players take their chances against Inter than our mates Shawcross, Palacios and Adam at Stoke. That also has the added attraction of not having to listen to Tony Pulis doing his best 'Steve Bruce whinge mixed with Alex Ferguson hypocrisy' impression in the post match interview.

    I can't wait for Sunday. I'll be watching with mates in London, including the guy I go to Spurs matches with (City and Southampton coming up on our itinerary) in the aftermath of another mate's stag party before crawling back catch a coach back to dirty old Bristol. There will be couple of United fans there as well to boo Liverpool (yes they are British, no they are not from Manchester, of course). Should be a good 'un!
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:12 pm
  • Apparently Inter have several of their first team defenders out injured. Maybe Spurs should play Bale...
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:16 pm
  • Hawkspur wrote:Apparently Inter have several of their first team defenders out injured. Maybe Spurs should play Bale...



    YES! Good idea, get on the dinger to AVB and tell him!
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:20 pm
  • On the case...
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:29 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:On the case...



    well done sir

    ``There is a lot of rest time between a Thursday and a Sunday (when Spurs play Liverpool.''- AVB pre-match interview
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:55 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    Hawkspur wrote:On the case...



    ``There is a lot of rest time between a Thursday and a Sunday (when Spurs play Liverpool.''- AVB pre-match interview


    I like this quote. I see it as being both a refreshing change from the whingeing of Wenger et al about their players being tired and a soundbite to let the team know that they are expected to show up with some effort and energy for both games.

    I'm pretty sure that he'll be resting players tonight when all is said and done, though.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:42 am
  • Or maybe he really meant it. It's a full strength side minus Lloris tonight.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:27 pm
  • Hawkspur wrote:Or maybe he really meant it. It's a full strength side minus Lloris tonight.


    Seems to be working.... AVB will be able to rest 2 by halftime, maybe all three by 60 at this rate.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Mar 07, 2013 2:40 pm
  • I'll revisit the discussion from a couple of weeks ago about the decline of the premier league to add that, based on tonight's match, the English league may well worry have reason to about being eclipsed by Spain or even Germany eventually, but they have very little to be concerned about Serie A. That Inter display tonight was as bad as any I've seen this season. Spurs could easily have scored at least a couple more. Inter had one good chance and that was it.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:06 pm
  • Good to see AVB take this tournament seriously. It has been a poor year for English teams with a lack of quality. However, next year the new Sky/BT deal kicks in and I expect most EPL teams to spend a small/big fortune. This might improve English teams performance in Europe. I expect Man City to do better in Europe next year once Mancini, who I do not rate gets sacked.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Thu Mar 07, 2013 4:15 pm
  • Glasgow Seahawk wrote:Good to see AVB take this tournament seriously. It has been a poor year for English teams with a lack of quality. However, next year the new Sky/BT deal kicks in and I expect most EPL teams to spend a small/big fortune. This might improve English teams performance in Europe. I expect Man City to do better in Europe next year once Mancini, who I do not rate gets sacked.


    Inter certainly didn't appear to be taking the tournament seriously. They did, however, double the number of Italians in the team from last time we played them, to a grand total of 2.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:46 am
  • Had this conversation with some friends yesterday while watching the Chelsea match. Hawkspurs new reflection on the strength of the PL over other leagues mad me think of it again.

    Who is the most disappointing newcomer to the PL this season? (Player who was not in the PL last year)

    I said Eden Hazard.... there was alot of consternation and indignation... then realization that he really hadnt contributed much since earning some pens early in the season.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:54 am
  • I agree about Hazard, Simon. Big disappointment for me. I'm gonna throw Giroud out there also. Lots of hype for him but he hasn't really produced for me.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:28 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:I agree about Hazard, Simon. Big disappointment for me. I'm gonna throw Giroud out there also. Lots of hype for him but he hasn't really produced for me.



    (that ought to awaken the beast)

    Agreed about Giroud, and one of my Arsenal friends said him initially. He has the most potential of the Arsenal transfers from the summer and has really brought the least, despite seemingly being involved far more than Carzola and Podolski....

    Podolski seems to be tapering off as well, as I had predicted. Hes become very inconsistent again. Almost Steward Downing but with goals.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:31 am
  • I'm really not trying to wind Gate up, but I recall all the fervor about Arsenal's signings last summer, and I said at the time they were gonna be much much worse without RVP carrying the load. Now, obviously losing a player of RVP's caliber will weaken any side, but the signings haven't produced nearly what they needed to.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:12 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:I'm really not trying to wind Gate up, but I recall all the fervor about Arsenal's signings last summer, and I said at the time they were gonna be much much worse without RVP carrying the load. Now, obviously losing a player of RVP's caliber will weaken any side, but the signings haven't produced nearly what they needed to.


    Im not disagreeing... but we now sensy Gate can be.

    Does Gylfi Siggurdson fall into this list?
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:14 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:I'm really not trying to wind Gate up, but I recall all the fervor about Arsenal's signings last summer, and I said at the time they were gonna be much much worse without RVP carrying the load. Now, obviously losing a player of RVP's caliber will weaken any side, but the signings haven't produced nearly what they needed to.


    Im not disagreeing... but we now sensy Gate can be.

    Does Gylfi Siggurdson fall into this list?


    I'd say not, because Spurs have performed quite well this year, and while he may not be a key contributer, he hasn't really hurt their success as far as I can tell.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:52 am
  • I'm sure they expected much more out of Sigurddson, but he's been looking quite a bit better over the last few games. With him and Holtby, I think Dempsey is likely to play a reduced role next year if he's still around, which I doubt. Most disappointing has to be Giroud or Podolski. Between them they probably cost the club about as much as it would have cost to keep van Persie.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:54 am
  • Good first half... Spurs outplaying Liverpool right now tbf. Doesnt appear we have a central midfield at times. Both teams doing very well with possession.

    Great team goal by Liverpool. love it when Coutinho is on the ball.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:21 am
  • Taking back the fortress. Screamed so hard at the Stevie penalty I saw stars. All in all a god day :)
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:12 pm
  • Hard lines, Hawkspur. Great match overall, SPurs definitely looked like they were going to run away with it after the interval, then the defensive error let Downing in and the match came alive again. Penalty was fair, I thought, and well-taken by Stevie. Yet again, defending on crosses and set pieces let us down at crucial times, but we scraped out a win. Things are going to get very interesting, Liverpool have a great wee run-in, with a home match against Chelsea in there. Could prove crucial.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:20 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:Hard lines, Hawkspur. Great match overall, SPurs definitely looked like they were going to run away with it after the interval, then the defensive error let Downing in and the match came alive again. Penalty was fair, I thought, and well-taken by Stevie. Yet again, defending on crosses and set pieces let us down at crucial times, but we scraped out a win. Things are going to get very interesting, Liverpool have a great wee run-in, with a home match against Chelsea in there. Could prove crucial.



    penalty was fair... probably earned two others with the Coutinho foul and the clip on Sturridge (although he sold it rather theatrically).

    the 4-4-2 let us down in the first half. Spurs better in possession and found gaps in the middle with ease. Second half was better defensively, but as peaches said, we were let down by defensive mishaps on set pieces. The pass back was interesting, at it wasnt the first time it happened. Spurs tried (and barely succeeded) with the same pass in the first half, from nearly the same spot.

    Either way, well played and frenetic pace and energy from both teams. great match. Spurs will be fine in securing CL I think.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:51 pm
  • Yeah, I agree particularly on the Coutinho one, Simon. The sturridge one - there was definitely contact, but not enough to warrant that reaction from Dean.

    Really liking the way Coutinho handles himself. He's deadly on the ball, plays with pace and skill. Suarez continues to be the best player in the league for me. Bale is extremely good, but Suarez just changes the entire game when he's on the pitch. Lovely to watch him, Coutinho and Sturridge on the pitch together causing massive headaches for defenses.

    Downing's goal was well-taken, too, I thought. Kind of a gift, but he was decisive and nutmeg'd it in through Vertonghen's legs.

    Agree about SPurs not needing to worry about CL place, though. I think Everton are going to fall away, and Arsenal are still just as inconsistent as ever. I genuinely think we can challenge Chelsea for that 4th place. Gonna be a great wee run-in!
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 10, 2013 2:34 pm
  • This is actually one of those defeats which I don't know how to react to. Obviously it's highly frustrating to lose a game, especially when you are twelve unbeaten and against a team inferior to yours, but when you play pretty well and only lose due to some sheer idiotic decision making from some of your weaker players it's hard to feel down. At the end of the day though those three points would have been absolutely crucial, it would have killed Liverpool off once and for all and given us a huge cushion over Arsenal and a five point gap over Chelsea. When we went 2-1 up, we had further chances to kill the game off and seemed in control and i genuinely was thinking about what a huge result it would have been. Anfield is a notoriously difficult ground to go to, somewhere historically we haven't done very well at all until the past few years and so it's very strange now that we go there expecting to win and are very disappointed when it doesn't go our way.

    I didn't think we started particularly brightly, that may have been due to the game on thursday, or just showing them a bit too much respect after their previous results but Liverpool were on top for the first fifteen to twenty minutes. The other problem I thought at the time was the team were not adapting very well to the change of shape/system that Lennon's injury had forced upon us and Dembele wasn't able to assert his usual influence from out on the right hand side. After this early spell though we got into the game a bit better and I thought we had begun to play our usual game when Liverpool went and scored. It was a nice goal from them, and a lovely finish from that scrote Suarez but I question what Walker was doing on the edge of the box. Nowhere near strong enough and let the ball get played through. He should have done everything he could to stop that being played, bring him down if you have to, but don't give him a free pass into their best player.

    After the goal Liverpool picked up their form again for five minutes or so but then we came right back into the game. We gave them such a warning with Gylfi's shot that just went wide. That was probably the move of the match and I still can't believe he didn't hit the target. It was a lovely flick from Gareth to set him free too. However the next sequence of events was highly frustrating. Gerrard firstly somehow escapes a booking for a highly cynical foul on Gylfi when he is breaking free and then secondly evades one again when he goes elbow first into Bale. It was a very dangerous challenge and worthy of at least a yellow, if not a red, but Oliver bottles it at Anfield. How anyone could have any complaints about that free kick is beyond me.

    Anyway just before half time we got what our pressure deserved and equalised through the second best Spurs player on the pitch. Lovely ball in from Gareth and Jan is there to guide it home. It was a really important goal for us on the stroke of half time because it allowed us to come out and just carry on with what we were doing, nothing drastic had to be done.

    Second half starts with us on top again and obviously we go two one up. Jan with a lovely left foot finish again. He was superb again today, his goals obviously were a bonus, but at the back his timing in the tackle is next to perfect. He's forming a really nice partnership with Dawson and it's a privilege to have him. Absolute steal of a transfer. He really is so cultured on the ball, his touch is not befitting that of a centre half but that of a creative player up the pitch.

    After the goal we had several chances just to kill the game off, the best falling to Gylfi who hit the post for the umpteen time this season, and we were cruising I thought. Liverpool really didn't cause us too many problems at all until we managed to gift them the two goals. Firstly from a horrendous pass by Walker which Lloris failed to deal with and secondly with a shambolic touch by Defoe allowing Suarez to do what he does best and go down easily in the box.

    It's really frustrating that we were played really well and got ourselves into the lead, only to shoot ourselves in the foot and gift them two goals to win the game. It was no surprise that it was our three weakest players out there that cost us. Firstly Walker really is a liability at times. He must be the most stupid footballer in the league. He just doesn't have a brain at all. It's just pace and strength with him. He gets himself and us out of perilous situations sometimes with his ability to recover but often he's made the error in the first place. Today he played a ludicrous pass back to Downing who although got a bit lucky with the break of the ball was able to finish. Why would anyone ever play that pass?

    Secondly Defoe. I was slagging him off all game, he was absolutely anonymous, barely touched the ball and literally offered nothing to anyone as an outlet. He was a waste of space as he always is in the big games and even though Adebayor has been dreadful this season, he never plays that badly, at least he will make himself available and get on the ball. The mis control just put the icing on the cake of his performance. What was he even trying to do and he just played Suarez in perfectly. Ekotto was poor and it was a clumsy challenge, although Im still not convinced by it, but he was put in a terrible position by our 'striker'.

    Thirdly, Livermore. Now, defensively he did alright today, and doesn't deserve the same criticism of the other two, but offensively he is useless, offered us nothing at all and slowed down so many attacks. He isn't good enough for our team and how he has an England cap I will never know.

    The main positive today other than Super Jan was his Belgian compatriot Mousa Dembele. Unbelievable performance from him. Liverpool couldn't handle his ability on the ball today, it just stuck to his foot and he glides past people with ease. He was thrust out onto the right which is by no means his strongest position but he was still able to have a massive influence on the game and ran the show for us. He had a poor spell in the middle of the season but he seems to be back to his best now. Shame Sandro got injured because there partnership in the middle was outstanding.

    We are still third in the league and although that would have been a really big win for us we need to move on and get the points against Fulham. This was one of those games we didn't have to win and so it isn't the end of the world, but we need to regroup now.

    We also need to get Lennon back soon. I hope people realise how important he is to us. He's ridiculously underrated by non Spurs fans and is the vital cog to this team.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:13 pm
  • Storts wrote:TL;DR


    What a load of shit.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:30 pm
  • Inferior? What he does best?

    Christ on a bike....

    Thanks storts. If it was possible to feel better about the win I do.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:24 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Inferior? What he does best?

    Christ on a bike....

    Thanks storts. If it was possible to feel better about the win I do.


    You are an inferior side to us, there can be no doubt about it.
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:40 pm
  • Storts wrote:After the goal we had several chances just to kill the game off, the best falling to Gylfi who hit the post for the umpteen time this season, and we were cruising I thought. Firstly from a horrendous pass by Walker which Lloris failed to deal with and secondly with a shambolic touch by Defoe allowing Suarez to do what he does best and go down easily in the box.


    Fancy meeting you here, Gareth. Welcome to Seahawks.net. Funny how when you don't score, your team doesn't win. I believe there is a sale on sunglasses and sunblock, both will be essential for your new home in Spain next year. TTFN!
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Sun Mar 10, 2013 5:47 pm
  • Storts wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Inferior? What he does best?

    Christ on a bike....

    Thanks storts. If it was possible to feel better about the win I do.


    You are an inferior side to us, there can be no doubt about it.


    Obviously judging by the scoreline... and how well you played... and your rich history of winning. Your riding Bale. It won't last.

    Your squad got outplayed and like a child whose mom makes him eat his veggies, you're bitter.

    When Spurs win something come discuss your superiority... until then you're a good team who was in form but got beat by a good squad.

    Take your thumb out your mouth Storts
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:19 am
  • Gutted. Well done, Liverpool. In the end I wasn't able to watch the game and haven't seen any highlights yet, but from what I've read it seems as though we lost from a winning position because of our weak links (full backs and striker) not bring up to it. This complrtely ignores the fact that Liverpool did well to come back and win, but from a Spurs perspective the fact that the manner of the defeat was predictable is frustrating.
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Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:59 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Obviously judging by the scoreline... and how well you played... and your rich history of winning. Your riding Bale. It won't last.
    Your squad got outplayed and like a child whose mom makes him eat his veggies, you're bitter.

    When Spurs win something come discuss your superiority... until then you're a good team who was in form but got beat by a good squad.

    Take your thumb out your mouth Storts


    Ha, how ridiculous. I don't even know where to start.

    We are a better side than you now, history means nothing in this argument. We have finished above you three years in a row and I look forward to doing it a fourth time. We hadn't lost in our previous 5 games against you either.

    That is such a lazy argument saying we are riding on Bale considering what Suarez does with you, but I wouldn't be so naive to suggest you're a one man team as you seem to be insinuating we are, pretty comical actually.

    We most certainly were not outplayed, don't think you'll find many people in the British public or press that would agree with you. We edged the game and shot ourselves in the foot with stupid errors from stupid players. We were cruising at 2-1 up and should have killed the game off. You're a decent team and it's no shame to lose at Anfield but I am very disappointed as I felt we did more than enough to win the game
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    Fancy meeting you here, Gareth. Welcome to Seahawks.net. Funny how when you don't score, your team doesn't win. I believe there is a sale on sunglasses and sunblock, both will be essential for your new home in Spain next year. TTFN!


    Laughable.
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Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:19 am
  • Bale has plaayed a part in 90% of your goals over your last 12. ... not that naive. And there isn't anything wrong with riding one of the best players in the world. Suarez has been 75%.

    Look storts, I like Spurs. Like what they do, like how they carry themselves. Said so in earlier posts. You came on here whinging about inferiority and slagging off Suarez.

    I think its really naive to suggest you could "kill the game off" for 35 minutes. If you honestly thought the drama was gone after 2-1 then you're either extremely overvaluing your team or haven't been following Liverpool (or the rest of the PL) that much. Liverpool have led the PL in scoring since December and are 4th in points since that time. On form, Liverpool isn't inferior. The last 35 was going to be frenetic no matter what. You could have been a goal up on Reading and they would have made it interesting. Either way, game was enjoyable. Played with pace, pressure and excitement

    You're right, you made errors as did Liverpool in the two set pieces. The game was far from put to bed at any point, and while the "british press" (known for their objectivity ofcourse) may be willing to pass off the defeat for Spurs as a minor bump, all will agree what a big win it is for Liverpool.
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Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:20 am
  • Hawkspur wrote:Gutted. Well done, Liverpool. In the end I wasn't able to watch the game and haven't seen any highlights yet, but from what I've read it seems as though we lost from a winning position because of our weak links (full backs and striker) not bring up to it. This complrtely ignores the fact that Liverpool did well to come back and win, but from a Spurs perspective the fact that the manner of the defeat was predictable is frustrating.


    I think thats a bit hard on your side, Hawkspur. The mistake that led to the 2nd goal was comical, to say the least... but despite the 20 minutes to start the second half in which Spurs held the ball well, the game was very even. Once the game was drawn Liverpool elevated to the front foot.

    Hard to imagine that Spurs were planning on keeping the ball the entire 2nd half (as Storts believe they should have to my lowly, inferior side). Liverpool actually did very well the last 30 minutes of controlling the middle of the field and limiting Spurs chances, despite struggling to create their own.

    As for Liverpool, we know we were fortunate to get even. Its fortuitous to finally get the break. To be honest, if a Spurs fan wants to ring up the loss to Walker, they'd be hypocritically ignoring the very poor circumstances in which they scored both goals, or the shambolic display by the ref in letting atleast one, if not two previous penalty shouts go unheard. (peaches thinks Coutinhos was but Sturrdiges was soft, i thought they were both legitimate).

    either way, despite Storts contentions otherwise, the game was never in hand by Spurs. I thought they played frenetic, passionate football and deserved a draw. the loss was a kick in the stomach, but one i'm happy my team delivered instead of received
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:44 pm
  • Quick question, which run in looks more favorable on paper:

    Arsenal
    @ Swansea
    vs Reading
    @ West Brom
    vs Norwich
    vs Everton
    @ Fulham
    vs Man United
    @ QPR
    vs Wigan

    Spurs
    vs Fulham
    @ Swansea
    vs Everton
    @ Chelsea
    vs Man City
    @ Wigan
    vs Southampton
    @ Stoke City
    vs Sunderland

    Chelsea
    vs West Ham
    @ Southampton
    vs Sunderland
    vs Spurs
    @ Liverpool
    vs Swansea
    @ Man United
    @ Aston Villa
    vs Everton

    For me I think Arsenal does as their two toughest matches remaining, in my mind(Man U and Everton), are home matches, Chelsea and Spurs have to pay each other(Spurs do that in the middle of a run that includes City, Everton and away to Swansea), and the possible match congestion due to Spurs and Chelsea's cup obligations could play a factor as well. In the end I think the Top 4 battle could and probably will come down to the final game yet again, Liverpool might sneak into the fight they only have Chelsea to face, but both Arsenal and Chelsea have a game in hand also. And then Everton, I don't really know what's gonna happen with them as they seem to be all over the place lately.
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Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:10 am
  • Actually, I reckon Liverpool's run in is the most favorable of all. I'm totes biased, though...
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Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:17 am
  • Arsenal and Liverpool have the easier run ins (on paper) with Everton and Spurs the more difficult. Trying to pick winners in the PL this year is far too difficult to try. Chelsea and Spurs still seem the favorites for Rth, with Arsenal and Liverpool to battle for 5th. Evertons schedule looks to have them drop. But this is their time of year.

    Based on current form (and taking into account Arsenals win yesterday, and future cup ties) id say:

    United
    City
    Spurs
    Chelsea
    Liverpool
    Arsenal
    Everton

    Arsenal is the wild card here, with the ability to jump to 4th or fall to 7th
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Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:20 am
  • I think the biggest X-Factor for Arsenal is their record against clubs below them in the table, only 1 of their losses have come to a club below them in the table at the time of the match, 2 losses against clubs below them in the table at the current moment. Only problem is that those 2 losses have come against Swansea and Norwich, who Arsenal have left to play the return fixtures.

    Chelsea is their own worst enemy at this moment as they always seem to create an illusion that they're turning the corner, only to take 2 steps back when we aren't looking. Spurs will probably finish Top 4 if they can get by that daunting 4 game run where they face Swansea, Chelsea, Everton and City. Everton seems to be on a mission to hurt themselves and Liverpool seem to be relying more on Suarez with each game.

    I think Si is right, Arsenal do have that kind of style where it seems that they can finish Top 4 or 7th. In the end I think it will end up being Spurs and Arsenal(namely cause the Gunners always find a way into the Top 4 similar to how Wigan always finds a way to stay in the EPL), Liverpool or Chelsea will finish 5th.
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Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:51 pm
  • Gatehawk wrote:I think the biggest X-Factor for Arsenal is their record against clubs below them in the table, only 1 of their losses have come to a club below them in the table at the time of the match, 2 losses against clubs below them in the table at the current moment. Only problem is that those 2 losses have come against Swansea and Norwich, who Arsenal have left to play the return fixtures.

    Chelsea is their own worst enemy at this moment as they always seem to create an illusion that they're turning the corner, only to take 2 steps back when we aren't looking. Spurs will probably finish Top 4 if they can get by that daunting 4 game run where they face Swansea, Chelsea, Everton and City. Everton seems to be on a mission to hurt themselves and Liverpool seem to be relying more on Suarez with each game.

    I think Si is right, Arsenal do have that kind of style where it seems that they can finish Top 4 or 7th. In the end I think it will end up being Spurs and Arsenal(namely cause the Gunners always find a way into the Top 4 similar to how Wigan always finds a way to stay in the EPL), Liverpool or Chelsea will finish 5th.



    Liverpool has the best record against teams in the bottom ten, and play 7 of 9 in that part of the table. I like that run in. But, like Arsenal, both teams are so dramatically inconsistent its hard to say where they land.

    While we know that Chelsea will struggle, but also nick points, its really down to whether Liverpool or Arsenal (or both) can take advantage of their run in and play with the form they are capable.

    Hard to put faith in that, given how the season has gone. Liverpool have been on quite the run, but I catn put faith they can take 20+ of 27 (which they need to challenge for 4th)
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:31 am
  • Liverpool's CL chances (in percentages)

    0 f---ing percent

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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:01 am
  • *sigh*

    Well, there goes that.
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Re: EPL 2012-2013
Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:26 am
  • That was a great result for Arsenal today. Awesome that Nacho got his first goal, and how important it could be we'll find out, and even more amazing is that Gervinho scored a quality goal for once. Swansea should feel hard done as they were good in the midfield but the final third, on both sides of the pitch, they were just horrific at times. The best way to describe Swansea today was that they played with a sword against their throat and it got pushed in. Fabianski didn't have to work much seeing as the Swans didn't have a shot on target, Michu of course was the closest with that shot that went around the post. I also feel Oxlade-Chamberlain deserved a goal for his performance in the first half, sucks he didn't get it but oh well.
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