HawkFan72 wrote:There has to be a balance. Holmgren's teams had very few penalties, but along with that came the "soft" label. Because the Seahawks weren't getting in guy's faces and punching them in the mouth.
If guys are being more intimidating physically, then there will be more penalties. It is just unavoidable. But we are past the line of what is acceptable and it needs to be reigned in a bit.
There has to be a balance.
HawkFan72 wrote:There has to be a balance. Holmgren's teams had very few penalties, but along with that came the "soft" label. Because the Seahawks weren't getting in guy's faces and punching them in the mouth.
If guys are being more intimidating physically, then there will be more penalties. It is just unavoidable. But we are past the line of what is acceptable and it needs to be reigned in a bit.
There has to be a balance.
HawkFan72 wrote:There has to be a balance. Holmgren's teams had very few penalties, but along with that came the "soft" label.
MontanaHawk05 wrote:HawkFan72 wrote:There has to be a balance. Holmgren's teams had very few penalties, but along with that came the "soft" label.
Nobody was complaining about that in 2005.
ImTheScientist wrote:This guy is the closest thing to beast mode we will ever see. You got a glimpse of that yesterday. He was instantly my favorite player when they signed him. Give the dude a chance and don't overreact or overthink preseason. Go Hawks. Lacy will rush for 1,100 and 10TDs. Bend the knee.
VHawk wrote:Holmgren could have never drafted/acquired these players either.
ImTheScientist wrote:This guy is the closest thing to beast mode we will ever see. You got a glimpse of that yesterday. He was instantly my favorite player when they signed him. Give the dude a chance and don't overreact or overthink preseason. Go Hawks. Lacy will rush for 1,100 and 10TDs. Bend the knee.
Hasselbeck wrote:VHawk wrote:Holmgren could have never drafted/acquired these players either.
Probably not.. but in 2005, we were 1st in offense and 7th on defense.
Compare that now to 28th on offense and 2nd on defense.
I'd say Holmgren did ok.
MontanaHawk05 wrote:HawkFan72 wrote:There has to be a balance. Holmgren's teams had very few penalties, but along with that came the "soft" label.
Nobody was complaining about that in 2005.
VivaEfrenHerrera wrote:And one thing that's happening is that the Hawks are picking up the label of "penalty-prone" and it's beginning to stick. The natural result is that refs will look just a little bit closer at whatever the Hawks do. Giacomini has already felt the effects of this and maybe Okung has as well. Once they're looking at you harder than they're looking at the other guy, they WILL find stuff.
Hasselbeck wrote:VHawk wrote:Holmgren could have never drafted/acquired these players either.
Probably not.. but in 2005, we were 1st in offense and 7th on defense.
Compare that now to 28th on offense and 2nd on defense.
I'd say Holmgren did ok.
scutterhawk wrote:Hasselbeck wrote:VHawk wrote:Holmgren could have never drafted/acquired these players either.
Probably not.. but in 2005, we were 1st in offense and 7th on defense.
Compare that now to 28th on offense and 2nd on defense.
I'd say Holmgren did ok.
1st in Offense, but not JUST because of Hasselbeck, Mack Strong, Alexanders 1,880 yards, O-linemen including future HOF Walter Jones+ Steve Hutchinson, Rob Tobeck, Grey and considered the ONLY weak link Locklear had a big hand in getting us that label.
Having the # 1 Offense didn't get us the Lombardi either,,The Stealers were considered the better Defense ,and as we've all parroted over the years, "Defense Wins Championships"
bmorepunk wrote:Everybody likes having the smash mouth team, but I'm in the "let's not crap all over Holmgren" camp. The Holmgren era brought this team to relevance out of the dark ages, and he had a lot to do with that. I can't say a lot of good things about him as a GM but I liked this team when he was the coach.
Holmgren's anal tendency was most visible when he traded Ahman Green to Green Bay for Fred Vinson because the guy fumbled too much.
Sgt. Largent wrote:With me, I can forgive the defense picking up a personal foul penalty for being too aggressive, because they've backed it up by being the #1 defense in the league. You can't say the same for the same stupid offensive penalties. This offense is not good enough to overcome personal foul penalties yet.
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