Drew Lock is back according to Field Gulls..

[Rosco]

Yes its a variation ...some of the terminology is the same and there are a but lot of plays that are the same but therr are differences... just like where it all came from Bill Walsh...which is a big difference from Mike Holmgrens version of the WCO, which is different from mike shanahan version ...still lots to learn.

Terminology is different but the foundation is the same throughout.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

West Coast Offense Tree

There are a few more branches needed to be updated but this will at least give them the scope of it.

SB victories in parenthesis.

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Not sure where you got this from But Bill Walsh Developed the WCO with Paul Brown

 

[Sun Tzu]

Not sure where you got this from But Bill Walsh Developed the WCO with Paul Brown

There are also several defensive coaches on there who have nothing to do with the WCO

 

[Titus Pullo]

Not sure where you got this from But Bill Walsh Developed the WCO with Paul Brown

Walsh began his pro coaching career in 1966 as an assistant with the AFL's Oakland Raiders. As a Raider assistant, Walsh was trained in the vertical passing offense favored by Al Davis, putting Walsh in Davis' mentor Sid Gillman's coaching tree.

 

[Titus Pullo]

Not sure where you got this from But Bill Walsh Developed the WCO with Paul Brown

LOS ANGELES -- Sid Gillman, the Hall of Fame football coach who was one of the masterminds behind the West Coast offense used by several of the NFL's best teams, died early Jan. 3. He was 91. Sid Gillman patrols the sidelines at a Chargers game in this undated photo. Gillman died at home in his sleep, said his wife, Esther.

Hall of Fame coaching great Gillman dies at 91

Sid Gillman, the Hall of Fame football coach who was one of the masterminds behind the West Coast offense used by several of the NFL's best teams, died early Jan. 3.

www.espn.com

 

[Rosco]

Not sure where you got this from But Bill Walsh Developed the WCO with Paul Brown

The Mike Shanahan version of the WCO is what almost all teams that run a WCO runs.

 

[Titus Pullo]

Sid Gillman is the father of football’s modern-day passing game.
An innovative coach and dynamic administrator for more than six decades, Gillman was the authority on passing theories and tactics. “The big play comes from the pass,” preached Gillman. “God bless those runners because they get you a first down, give you ball control and keep your defense off the field. But if you want to ring the cash register, you have to pass.”

The only coach inducted into both the Pro Football Hall of Fame [1983] and College Football Hall of Fame [1989], Gillman coached collegiately for 21 years. He then coached 18 pro seasons, where he was the first to win divisional titles in both the NFL and AFL. Sid Gillman preceded Vince Lombardi at Army, Paul Brown at Ohio State, and Woody Hayes at Denison College.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Walsh began his pro coaching career in 1966 as an assistant with the AFL's Oakland Raiders. As a Raider assistant, Walsh was trained in the vertical passing offense favored by Al Davis, putting Walsh in Davis' mentor Sid Gillman's coaching tree.

Although most of what you have said is true, Walsh being in the coaching tree of Gillman does not equal, Gillman created the WCO. Gillman employed a vertical offense that has little in common with the WCO. Gillman certainly had ideas and concepts that Walsh may have adopted; however, Walsh created the WCO.

Walsh coached high school football and coached under Levy in college ball before moving to the NFL. Do we trace the origins of the WCO back to a random high school coach that Walsh coached with at some point?

If you truly insist on starting the WCO tree somewhere other than Walsh, how about Paul Brown?

The WCO coaching tree begins with Walsh...

Also, that coaching tree you posted has several defensive coaches who have nothing to do with the WCO.

 

[Rock_the_Hawk]

The Mike Shanahan version of the WCO is what almost all teams that run a WCO

Sid Gillman is the father of football’s modern-day passing game.
An innovative coach and dynamic administrator for more than six decades, Gillman was the authority on passing theories and tactics. “The big play comes from the pass,” preached Gillman. “God bless those runners because they get you a first down, give you ball control and keep your defense off the field. But if you want to ring the cash register, you have to pass.”

The only coach inducted into both the Pro Football Hall of Fame [1983] and College Football Hall of Fame [1989], Gillman coached collegiately for 21 years. He then coached 18 pro seasons, where he was the first to win divisional titles in both the NFL and AFL. Sid Gillman preceded Vince Lombardi at Army, Paul Brown at Ohio State, and Woody Hayes at Denison College.

The problem is that my original point was that Lock needed to learn the offense and your point was that he didnt need to learn the offense because he already knew it because all WCO are the same which is BS...thats why Carroll has said publically many times that Lock needed to learn the O as well Waldren has said that he needs to learn it as well several times... your wrong in your claim that all WCO are the same...