Fade":c2ia6d3m said:
LTH":c2ia6d3m said:
Question for you Fade. What information do you have that Pete didn't like what was going on in week 1? Is that your opinion? you make a lot of assumption... Do you have something to source that to? probably not... Where are you getting your information from because i know your not sitting in the meetings so how do you come up with these claims?
LTH
Pete literally said, "Shane Waldron is open to the things we've been doing around here."
After week 2 or 3. (Pete does a lot of pressers and I don't feel like digging through to find it.) Because the offense started creeping back to what it had looked like before.
This is what it looked like week 1 ->
[tweet]https://twitter.com/DannyBKelly/status/1438009269501190144[/tweet]
https://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=174489
Read this thread if you need a refresher, but the clip in the tweet should make it obvious.
I get it... I read and listen to a lot of stuff too... I'm not wanting to spend the time it takes to find stuffeither.. LOL because I don't care that much and I'm sure you are the same...so I'll give you that..
The problem is I've never heard Pete say he is pushing Waldron into what they were doing in the past... from my understanding its the opposite Pete has given up control to Waldron and Russ to create..
It was always my feeling that Pete didn't like how Schotty was doing things in the past which was why he fired him or how ever that end should be characterized... So its a head scratcher to me when I here you say
"Because the offense started creeping back to what it had looked like before." Saying that it is Pete medaling in the O basically...
Then the comment of what Pete said:
Pete literally said, "Shane Waldron is open to the things we've been doing around here."
Which in my mind doesn't say Pete is medaling... what it says to me is there are some very effective things the Seahawks do that should be incorporated into Waldron's O and that very well could be important to Russ.... we don't know for sure..
We don't really know what's going on... Is it Pete medaling? is it Russ? Is it both? They are not saying (to my Knowledge who is influencing this current evolution of the O)... we don't have the facts
The problem is we do not have a fact based media... this is a VERY important issue... most of what we are reading is fact mixed in with the writers opinion.. So what ends up happening are conclusions are drawn from an opinion that may or may not be true
Lets look at the article that I posted
Salk believes that in 2021, with a new offensive coordinator in Shane Waldron working with Wilson, that Carroll has been compromising in terms of how Seattle’s offense operates.
“That’s not being convicted in your identity,” he said. “Yesterday, I saw a coach at halftime who said, ‘No more. No more will I allow this to happen. No more will I continue to compromise with a player who’s not even out here. We’re going to do this my way. I’m the coach, I’m in charge, we’re doing this my way.'”
This is Salks statement.. from this statement you can surmise a lot of things...reading this I could come away with the impression that there is still a major riff between Wilson and Carroll...
"No more will I continue to compromise with a player who’s not even out here"
Is that the case? Maybe... but he doesn't back it up with any thing but opinion.. was he in the locker room when he heard this at half time? No.. so where did he come up with that? Did Pete actually characterize that statement with that emotion or is that Salks opinion of what is happening? I tend to think its true being that the Hawks ran the crap out of the ball in the 2nd half... I tend to think that Carroll is compromising with Waldron and Russ... Is it correct? truthfully I don't know because I didn't here it from Carroll, Russ or Waldron... I heard it from a reporter giving his opinion...
I think this is an example of what I'm saying it's really hard to read between the lines because we don't have a fact based media like we have had in the past..
Can you see what I'm saying?
LTH