onepicknick1":1zkp7b15 said:ZagHawk":1zkp7b15 said:LTH":1zkp7b15 said:Spin Doctor":1zkp7b15 said:Pete Carroll has brought the Seahawks to new heights. He came in off of a failure of an administration and brought new life into the Seahawks. He brought us our only win in the big game ever in one of the most one sided Super Bowls ever. The Hawks absolutely stomped one of the best QBs of all time -- and almost shutout the best offenses in NFL history. That moment was one of the happiest moments in my life. I remember that day, the feelings in the street, it was magical. The crazy bastard did it again and got us into a second Super Bowl. Could we be the next dynasty? I wondered. The final second of the game came and the events that transpired collectively broke Seattle, and would be the catalyst for the dismantling of one of the greatest defenses of all time -- and what people consider to be the best team of the 2010s decade.
Since that fateful day the Seahawks have returned back to the ratpack. Rule changes along with a slew of poor drafts, questionable trades and bad in game management have made the Seahawks, quite frankly mediocre. Good enough to get into the playoffs, not good enough to make it past the divisional game. This culminated in a season where the Seahawks missed the playoffs, what followed next was a purge. Our coaching staff was completely gutted, and our cornerstones players were let go. Many touted a 3 year rebuild/reload, here we are at the three year mark. What have we got to show for it? We've got some decent players, but a team that looks uninspired. A defense that was heading towards being one of the worst defenses in NFL history, and offense that is now struggling. By virtue of a weak ending schedule we got a team that could finish 12-4, but we all know that we are the great pretenders.
The man at the center of this Pete Carroll is done being a top tier NFL coach. One poster said it best when they said "Pete Carroll is a hall of fame coach in between game days". Carroll seems to inspire his players, particularly the younger ones. He brings out the best in the players. Despite this, it has become clear that many other elements of a Pete Carroll led team are lacking, particularly his philosophies and in-game management. The same story is playing itself over, and over again, like a broken record player. For the past 5, going on six years, we've played this same dance, repeating the same mistakes. The Seahawks are trapped in a perpetual state of groundhogs day, tied to a coach that has clearly lost his edge.
Carroll has lost his edge. There comes a time when even the greats lose touch of the game, we're seeing that right now. Holmgren, Parcells and Ditka come to mind. A arduous, slow decline from their haydays, into a state of mediocrity, or just flatout desolation. We're seeing that slow burn with Carroll right now. It has become clear that he is no longer capable of achieving anything with the Seahawks other than slowly backing into the playoffs. He's below .500 in the playoffs since our last Super Bowl appearance and we have not made it past the wildcard with some talented teams. Carroll's accomplished all he's going to accomplish here and it is time to move on. Nothing gold can stay, and Carroll's time has passed on. Ever year we keep Carroll, we take a year off of Russell Wilson's prime.
As I read this post, I sit here in amazement as to how anybody could misunderstand a person such as Pete Carroll to the magnitude that this posts suggests... I have been a football fan for 45 years and talked football with many many people in my life and I have NEVER read or even heard of the amount of misunderstood garbage as what this post represents... It's not even worth the time to refute... its that LAME... My goodness !!!! But Im not mad i'm just blown away and it's becoming comical to read this sh!t...
I just think that new people come on this board and form opinions based off the information they read on this site and I am here to tell you that this is complete well written utter garbage... it's a total lack of understanding...See, to know Carroll you have to know how he thinks which is difficult... you have to research him to get an understanding of why he makes the choices he makes... what IS his actual football philosophy where did it come from... to be a great coach you have to be able to work through adversity at an epic level and that's what he is doing right now, working through adversity... when 3/4 of this board starts freaking out at the first sign of diversity... It's not Carroll that needs the adjustment it's the fans who need the adjustment ... educate yourselves before you spew because it's really really lame to read this sh!t LMAO!!!!!
To all of you new people who are forming opinions.. there are some really knowledgeable people on this board not so much this dude...and I'm NOT trying to come off like I know everything because I assure you I do not...but I am just saying ...take what you read with a grain of salt...
LTH
All I read here is another older person who is convinced everyone under the age of 50 is stupid. You know there was a time people thought the world was flat (some people still do). There was a time people thought black people and women shouldn't be allowed to vote or be treated equally (apparently a lot of people still do as shown in 2020...a lot of them older). So lets not pretend being around on this Earth longer suddenly makes you better than everyone else....
Hell even as someone in my late 30s (yeah I'l be transparent with my age here because I have a lot of accomplishments in my life I'm proud of, learned a lot of life lessons and continue to grow everyday and if one thing has taught me anything it's always learn and get better). I even found myself struggling with the concepts of some of the younger 15-25 year olds but at the same time...why? was it just because I was stuck in my ways? maybe they have more information available to them now, making the world a smaller place, than we ever had at that age. I have been working with computers all my life, but no i that 15-20 year old person could never know a software better than me right? because I know DOS and C++ so they possibly couldn't know more about Python or Javacript than me?
The world is evolving always (and so is football). If you're not adapting with it, you're dying. There is a reason why every successful business even at the top is always looking to do more change things up, improve their product, because if you just stick with the same thing despite how you built your original philosophy...you will be dethroned and find your way out. The seahawks are a business...a business that wants to be at the top. You tell me how many top businesses keep their exact philosophy year after year and stay on top?
All you have to rely on is..people don't know how good we have it...Yeah you got to experience to Seahawks be bottom dwellers for along time, that sucks. Being a playoff team IS good. You are $h!t on people who want it better. That's the exact same thing as people who are fighting for BLM right now, and older people saying you don't know how bad it was for minorities in the 50-60s...shut your mouth you have it so good already...they want it better.
Wow that is so insightful I mean that I'm almost 60 and enjoyed reading this. You are correct about this country is evolving no one is going to stop it I just hope it goes in the right way. Business, If you don't constantly strive to make your product better then eventually you will go broke someone will put the work in on your product and start out selling you.
When people get comfortable on their Jobs they seem do do less and care more about other things the eye of the tiger is gone. When Pete held up the Lombardi he said we were going to have a lot more of them well we're still waiting.
I appreciate it. I am eternal optimist and this world/country is definitely evolving. I do think it will be for the better, a lot of big good changes in the world are birthed from tragedy (research automobile and aerospace safety measures and when they were implemented). We'll one day look back at 2020 saying it's when it all turned.